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Stop revealing things, directors!!
Suicide Squad Director Confirms Joker Fan Theory
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wh-
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how does "damaged" enrage Batman in a way that seeing the Joker doesn't anyway
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what does that even mean?
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no wonder they fired you david ayers and replaced you with james gunn
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GET IT "DAMAGED" BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF MANY WORDS YOU COULD USE TO DESCRIBE ONE SPECIFIC INTERACTION BUT ALSO ALL OF THE OTHER ONES
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at least james gunn doesn't tell me things about the movie that don't matter
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"his smile is RUIIIIIIINED"
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that is probably the dumbest fan theory since "Thanos was right"
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yeah I have no idea what they're on about
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if you wanna reveal something that doesn't matter, tell me why he has a tattoo of his own mouth on his hand
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the teeth thing CAN'T be be why he has the damaged tat
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because he has that when he meets harley, and according to your own movie, hrley helped him murder robin
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...........including Red Skull was important, huh? >_>
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"Hmm no this Smart Hulk appearance doesn't work, let's do something different that also doesn't work."
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"But, you know, after a five-year timeskip, so rather than worrying about not having enough time left to explore this new development, we just pretend it was explored off camera"
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"revealed that the scene in which the Guardians meet Thor (Chris Hemsworth) could have gone on for 20 minutes;" but why
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probably because they were having fun and didn't want to stop
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which is fair, it was one of the better parts
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" Markus also revealed that there is extensive footage of Johansson making a sandwich, which he jokingly said he "can't believe" was cut from the film." ...again, why
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Also, the spit bucket is just a thing.
Haunt
All movies do that.
Haunt
I mean, if there's food
Exacerangutan
yeah I feel like that's... how you do any scene with eating and drinking???
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so
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sure?????????
Haunt
It's weird to make it sound like a Black Widow sandwich specific thing.
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that's not really something to REVEAL
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IN THIS SCENE, BIG SECRET, BUT WE USED CAMERAS FOR FILMING
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"They did sit down with physicists to discuss the nature of time travel." sure you did
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LOL
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I mean
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I believe they sat down with physicists or at least physics students
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took notes
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We had this thing called "craft services" for Robert Downey Jr. Just him. Only him. We invented it.
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and then never spoke to them again while undermining all the effort put into making causality-friendly time travel
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" Tony would have worn an invisible stealth suit" ....I mean....couldn't you just say he was wearing it this whole time?
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If it's invisible how would I know otherwise
Haunt
We also thought it would be good to have different sets of clothes at different points so we hired people just to manage the wardrobes.
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saying "they had Antman emerge from the quantum realm so they could explore a postapocalyptic setting!!" implies they didn't realize they needed to if they were going to do a time skip
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" Nebula and War Machine (Don Cheadle) were originally going to arrive on Morag while it was underwater, and they would have fought a giant sea monster. Again, cool, but it lacked an emotional connection." .....d....why would it HAVE to?
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a time skip requires a bridging character to stand in for the audience and motivate other characters to explain WTF happened during the time skip
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I mean, nebula and war machine don't have to personally know everyone they fight, guys
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???????
Haunt
You know what I really appreciate when people fight a giant sea monster together? Their emotional connection
Haunt
You could just...form one
Haunt
Sometimes doing things like that bond people
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they seem to be saying, based on the other example they give
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that they don't have an emotional connection to the SEA MONSTER
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I mean
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(personally, I would've assumed they cut it bc aquaman already did that)
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I will say
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having seen EG
Haunt
Also, I could have told you they thought Black Widow was the hardest to write. Because of how little they pushed themselves to do it.
Haunt
If we kill her he hard part can stop!
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I am 0% surprised that "THERE MUST BE A PRE-ESTABLISHED EMOTIONAL CONTEXT TO MAKE THIS SHIT AS MAUDLIN AS POSSIBLE" was a motivation for cutting/changing scenes
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"Tony can't fight Heimdall, they don't know each other!"
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or, tony can't fight heimdall because heimdall's not a villian?
Haunt
lol, also my thought
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so why would he fight him??
Haunt
I mean Heimdall would probably find him annoying
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also, does ROCKET have an emotional connection to asgard??
Haunt
But he has more chill than to just beat up every dick
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see also taking the gauntlet away from Nebula because it would make Tony using it less melodramatic
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I mean, fine you don't have to follow the comics, but don't pretend it was for anything other than kissing rdj's ass >_>
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fuck story if you can squeeze some more feelings out of uncritically obsessive fans by surprising and upsetting them that's what drama's really all about
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making sense is for losers
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I mean, tony can't just retire
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and leave behind a widow and child we'll never see again
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like a real man does
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or whatever
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And Steve can't just retire, he has to....idek what the fuck
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undermine all that work that went into developing a more thought out version of time travel? :-D
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manipulate time and space and abandon everyone he cares about so he can change the past of a woman whose niece he made out with
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you know, for the emotional connection
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............well this explains why I don't give a shit about Extraction.
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oh is that the russo's new movie on netflix?
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yeah
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it's sad to hear there will probably be more painfully stupid MCU movies but I guess such is life
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yeah it seems to be fairly generic grit that manages at the same time to feel like it thinks its very deep and clever
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I didn't realize it was the Russos
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.................wait does he tho
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it seems like he specifically doesn't
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....article headline you lied to me
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new lows in journalism
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also, don't...ask that, why would anyone want to know that o_O\
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Jonathan Frakes Refuses To Say If Data Banged The Borg Queen But Tacitly Admits To Being Thirsty A F
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better headline for you there
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...........I mean I'm not shocked some people who are in the Venn diagram union of Thirsty and Pedantic want to know
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especially in the era of Russo Reveals normalizing that kind of nonsense
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.......I've really grown to dislike the phrase "word of god"
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authorial intent is great and all, and makes for an interesting footnote, but this whole "it doesn't make how bad an idea it is or how it undermines the story, if the writer/director says so it must be true!!!!" thing is really unhelpful
resisting li
as I have said elsewhere, my interest in what Word of God is is DIRECTLY proportional to how much I like what the creator had to say
resisting li
so, you know, it's not really interest in Word of God at all
resisting li
so much as "ah, yes, Good Meta TM"
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I will tend to give the author preference in the case of comparable-quality headcanon
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but usually if it's a good piece of headcanon it.. just..... goes into the story and isn't headcanon
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yeah, but this is less head canon and more
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"hey hey look at what we could've done haha"
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to which everyone goes "....oh....okay??"
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I mean it's probably fair to put Russo Reveals generally in the same category as other headcanon; it's things never stated that someone believes.
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unless what could've been was removed because f executive manipulation, I don't really care if you chose not to have the hulk save the cop from die hard
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..............they're just characteristically dumb headcanon that don't matter and/or actively undermine the story.
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and/or are obvious anyway
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because it wasn't "emotional" enough or whatever
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also, about the time travel, I am STILL laughing incredulously over the reveal that the writers were in disagreement about whether or not Steve had changed history
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although some of these are more behind-the-scenes
resisting li
like someone asked them afterwards in an interview and they had different answers and then argued with each other
resisting li
embarrassing
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resisting li : it just proves that they don't even understand their OWN time travel rules
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rather than the classic Russo Reveals which were more IC
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well
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well, they've probably run out of actual revelations at this point
resisting li
anyway there's no part of this that isn't unbearably ridiculous
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I'm pretty sure they 1. didn't understand the rules up front that made sense
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and then 2. broke them when it was convenient
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now they have to try and wow us with the fact that scarjo spat in a bucket
resisting li
or else just so boring I am almost falling asleep from reading them
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~the miracle of film making~
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yeah that's Russo Reveals for you
resisting li
p sure the only instance of anyone eating the food in a scene is still Groundhog Day
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At least David Ayers is trying to peak my interest, I guess
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I mean, his reveal doesn't really fit the movie he made
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either "yeah we know why are you even talking about it like it's news" or "well that's stupid and there's a reason I never asked"
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but whatever, it's not like that joker exists anymore anyway
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even for the brief moments he was in birds of prey, they didn't even bother to get jared leto back, they just went on a casting call for "guy who can fit in jared leto's clothes"
resisting li
Andie MacDowell said in an interview that Bill Murray genuinely and for real ate all of the food in the diner scenes, and that she felt so bad every time she blew a take
resisting li
(she was laughing when she said it, which is important; if he'd actually made her feel bad for his own ridiculous choice, that would be crappy of him!)
resisting li
but yeah she was VERY specific that this is NOT DONE. He was being weird. Which seems to be par for the Bill Murray course lol
resisting li
also apparently it was good food
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"They needed someone with similar hands to Leto's Joker, and someone who would fit the costumes. So I just came in and turned out to be the same sizes, and they gave me the part." amazing.
resisting li
lol
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Russos Reveal What Happened to Captain America in En...
this is more like a typical Russo Reveal
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERGB86HUEAE-Apk.jpg I mean, they did a pretty good job though.
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the russos give me a headache
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yeah I'm with you
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also if falcon is now capt america
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why is the show called Falcon and Winter Soldier and not Capt America and the Winter Soldier
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you're being purposefully confusing, MCU and I don't appreciate it
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I joke there's probably a valid reason that we'll find out 5 years after it airs
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probably because after accepting the title he realized he's not a very good replacement for Captain America
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he's p. good at doing Falcon things, but not so much the supersoldier things and being frustratingly charismatic and goodnatured and inspirational except when the writers want him not to be
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I mean, afaik, they only made him it because he's it in the comics, but like
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you don't do half the things comics do, why start now
juliette lives
lol at Jared Leto being such a dick that no one wanted to bring him back for a scene
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juliette lives : hahaha I know. "Ehhh. It's one scene, can't we just find someone who vaguely resembles him to laugh like an idiot?"
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"and for the rest, an animated sequence?"
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petition to replace jared leto in all sequels with Johnny Goth
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I suspect the comics-mirroring plus "check out how progressive we are!!!!" points
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