
Quinn Angstrom
[lgbt rep rambling][ocs-tangential] A thought that's been simmering since a conversation with
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
recently

Quinn Angstrom
so, it's no surprise - and also extremely good - that all our OC casts inevitably end up as like Oops! All Queer

Quinn Angstrom
but I think there is one part of the big wish fulfillment that is lost as a result

Quinn Angstrom
and that's the fun escapist LGBT fantasy of casual, enthusiastic acceptance by the cishet community

Quinn Angstrom
if Elvis the OC is trans and all the other OCs in Elvis's cast are cool with it, that's great, but it's also like...

Quinn Angstrom
if all Elvis's castmates are also LGBT it's sort of like, yeah, of course they're cool with it

Quinn Angstrom
they're all in the same boat

Quinn Angstrom
If the cast has a Shounen Battle Manga Love Interest Girl and she's trans, and there's also a Shounen Battle Manga Protagonist straight guy who's head over heels in love with her then it has a different kind of impact

Quinn Angstrom
a different energy

Quinn Angstrom
in conclusion, vague shrug

Quinn Angstrom
sometimes I guess cishets serve a valuable purpose if they're sufficiently valid

Villain
This isn't the MAIN reason I make a lot of my characters mostly straight?

Villain
But it's one of them

Villain
To Be Tom

Quinn Angstrom
I only barely remember Tom

Villain


Quinn Angstrom
there it is

Dirk Warhard
Straight guys who are unabashedly in love with their trans girlfriends are good.

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
yeah... yeah. basically this is something I think about a lot.

Quinn Angstrom
one I honestly actually can't think of seeing ever in any context? is

Quinn Angstrom
the reverse of that

Quinn Angstrom
very straight girl very in love with trans boyfriend

kamikasei
This is a thing that comes up in yuri - you have some stories that are, like, set in an all-girls' school where everyone seems gay for everyone and there may as well be no men or boys on the planet, and you have others where the couple(s) are conscious of being in a minority and deal with hostility, comphet, and supportive straight friends

kamikasei
(Which doesn't precisely map to what you're talking about since you're describing situations where the whole setting is fictional, but...)

Dirk Warhard
Straight girl/trans guy has less toxic masculinity to overcome, so while that is also definitely good, I think it hits the wish fulfillment buttons a little more softly.

Rama
It's something where ideally you'd want to see both it and the converse, but the converse is a little more immediately compelling

Quinn Angstrom
It's a thing in non-OC contexts as well yeah

Quinn Angstrom
for that example (and in all examples) both kinds of stories are absoutely 100% valid

Quinn Angstrom
one touches more compellingly on parts of the LGBT Experience(TM) that the other doesn't, but one of them is also just lighter and more fun in a way that a lot of more mainstream LGBT fiction isn't

Princess Emily
I mean like....

Princess Emily
coming from the T portion of LGBT,

Princess Emily
I feel cis LGB people aren't inherently less transphobic at least

Quinn Angstrom
there IS that

Princess Emily
so there's still a "oh cool they're not transphobic" from them too

Princess Emily
there's an equivalent reaction to what you're describing for a trans woman in a relationship with a cis lesbian for example

Quinn Angstrom
yeah

Quinn Angstrom
it's almost like having a wide variety of different kinds of stories and relationships in stories about LGBT characters

Quinn Angstrom
is good

Princess Emily
yes that