

Quinn Angstrom
[I have a problem] thinking through Chrono Trigger as a raid sequence and what the optimal set of fights would be for it


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A raid sequence is generally 12 boss fights over 3 tiers of 4 fights each

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Sometimes (but not often) with some trash mobs or miniboss stuff along the way

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frequently each tier ends with something big and dramatic that gets a cool extra phase on Savage

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this is the list I'm not quite happy with

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TIER 1:

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C1: Dragon Tank

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C2: Masa and Mune, then Masamune as a second phase once they're defeated

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C3: Heckran. Or wait, would Heckran be before Masamune? It's been years

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C4: GOT to be Magus. Have Ozzie/Flea/Slash, but only as quick cameos to assist with attacks, like the other bosses do during Ultimate trials.

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maybe they only show up on Savage.

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TIER 2

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Heckran's before Masamune.

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C5: Giga Gaia. Not that plot significant, but it leaves a HELL of an impression

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C6: Yakra XIII

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C7: Son of Sun

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C8: Azala and Black Tyranno. Not sure what to do here to make Savage special.

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Not as happy with this tier. It doesn't have a big capstone

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TIER 3, AKA Black Omen

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C9: Queen Zeal. Savage update adds Mammon Machine and her second head-and-hands form.

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C10: Lavos (Exterior). Savage adds an extended initial gauntlet of forms/attacks based on the previous bosses in the raid chain.

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C11: Lavos (Interior).

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C12: Lavos Core.

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Things I want to tweak this with:

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- A proper, more interesting capstone to Tier 2

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- Something else to take up a Tier 3 slot, so that Lavos Core can be the big Savage-only finale

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[High Quality] Chrono Trigger OST 60 - World Revolut...
honestly the whole thing would be worth it just to hear the FF14 music team take on this song

Dirk Warhard
Dalton before Queen Zeal?

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Dalton's such a lameass, though. Maybe throw in the Golem Twins to spice it up

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so Dalton/Golem/GolemTwins (Savage only) for C9

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Zeal/Mammon for C10

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Lavos Exterior for C11

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Lavos Interior for C12

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and Lavos Core for C12S

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on Normal, Dalton's third phase is Golem Boss, who is completely ineffective because he's afraid of heights, so it goes back to just Dalton

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on Savage he summons the Twins instead

Dirk Warhard
I think I'd sub out Heckran for the skeleton dude on the bridge, too. :|a Much more memorable fight.

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good call, I did consider Zombor

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Heckran's core mechanic makes no sense in FF14, anyway

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so Tier 1 is DTank/Zombor/Masamune/Magus

Dirk Warhard
Yakra might be a good sub for DTank to make Tier 1 a more cohesive Magus Arc plotline, but that leaves the question of what to do with Tier 2. :|a

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I originally had Yakra, but I didn't want to use both Yakra and Yakra XIII

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also on the maybe list was Nizbel

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and Guardian

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god CT has so many good bosses

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This current lineup has no 2300AD representation

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is the helper npc gato

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helper npc?

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
like alpha

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
or Alisaie in the coil

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I didn't realize that was a staple

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
I mean the quests gotta come from someone

Master Chieve
I figure Lucca or Malchior

thetaClysm
Son of Sun is 2300 AD representation, if not thematically typical representation

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Guardian or Mother Computer could be added in

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for proper 2300 shit

Dirk Warhard
Could probably finagle an adds boss out of Atropos and the R-Series. :|a

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Also I've most often seen chrono trigger theorycrafted as a 24-man raid series, though i like how 8-man format opens up a lot more possibilities

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I've also considered it as an AR

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Magus Castle, Undersea Palace, Black Omen

Master Chieve
I was gonna suggest the R series yeah

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It wouldn't not work