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Quinneapolis
[I have a problem] thinking through Chrono Trigger as a raid sequence and what the optimal set of fights would be for it
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Quinneapolis
A raid sequence is generally 12 boss fights over 3 tiers of 4 fights each
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Sometimes (but not often) with some trash mobs or miniboss stuff along the way
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frequently each tier ends with something big and dramatic that gets a cool extra phase on Savage
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this is the list I'm not quite happy with
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TIER 1:
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C1: Dragon Tank
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C2: Masa and Mune, then Masamune as a second phase once they're defeated
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C3: Heckran. Or wait, would Heckran be before Masamune? It's been years
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C4: GOT to be Magus. Have Ozzie/Flea/Slash, but only as quick cameos to assist with attacks, like the other bosses do during Ultimate trials.
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Quinneapolis
maybe they only show up on Savage.
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TIER 2
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Frozen Time
Heckran's before Masamune.
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C5: Giga Gaia. Not that plot significant, but it leaves a HELL of an impression
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C6: Yakra XIII
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C7: Son of Sun
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C8: Azala and Black Tyranno. Not sure what to do here to make Savage special.
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Quinneapolis
Not as happy with this tier. It doesn't have a big capstone
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TIER 3, AKA Black Omen
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C9: Queen Zeal. Savage update adds Mammon Machine and her second head-and-hands form.
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C10: Lavos (Exterior). Savage adds an extended initial gauntlet of forms/attacks based on the previous bosses in the raid chain.
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C11: Lavos (Interior).
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C12: Lavos Core.
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Things I want to tweak this with:
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- A proper, more interesting capstone to Tier 2
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- Something else to take up a Tier 3 slot, so that Lavos Core can be the big Savage-only finale
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[High Quality] Chrono Trigger OST 60 - World Revolut...
honestly the whole thing would be worth it just to hear the FF14 music team take on this song
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Frozen Time
Dalton before Queen Zeal?
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Quinneapolis
Dalton's such a lameass, though. Maybe throw in the Golem Twins to spice it up
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Quinneapolis
so Dalton/Golem/GolemTwins (Savage only) for C9
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Zeal/Mammon for C10
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Lavos Exterior for C11
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Lavos Interior for C12
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and Lavos Core for C12S
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on Normal, Dalton's third phase is Golem Boss, who is completely ineffective because he's afraid of heights, so it goes back to just Dalton
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on Savage he summons the Twins instead
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Frozen Time
I think I'd sub out Heckran for the skeleton dude on the bridge, too. :|a Much more memorable fight.
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Quinneapolis
good call, I did consider Zombor
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Heckran's core mechanic makes no sense in FF14, anyway
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so Tier 1 is DTank/Zombor/Masamune/Magus
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Frozen Time
Yakra might be a good sub for DTank to make Tier 1 a more cohesive Magus Arc plotline, but that leaves the question of what to do with Tier 2. :|a
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Quinneapolis
I originally had Yakra, but I didn't want to use both Yakra and Yakra XIII
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also on the maybe list was Nizbel
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and Guardian
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god CT has so many good bosses
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Gabiluzbad
This current lineup has no 2300AD representation
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ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
is the helper npc gato
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Quinneapolis
helper npc?
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ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
like alpha
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ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
or Alisaie in the coil
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Quinneapolis
I didn't realize that was a staple
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ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
I mean the quests gotta come from someone
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Gabiluzbad
I figure Lucca or Malchior
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thetaClysm
Son of Sun is 2300 AD representation, if not thematically typical representation
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Quinneapolis
Guardian or Mother Computer could be added in
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for proper 2300 shit
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Frozen Time
Could probably finagle an adds boss out of Atropos and the R-Series. :|a
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thetaClysm
Also I've most often seen chrono trigger theorycrafted as a 24-man raid series, though i like how 8-man format opens up a lot more possibilities
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Quinneapolis
I've also considered it as an AR
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Magus Castle, Undersea Palace, Black Omen
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Gabiluzbad
I was gonna suggest the R series yeah
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thetaClysm
It wouldn't not work