

Quinneapolis
[I have a problem] thinking through Chrono Trigger as a raid sequence and what the optimal set of fights would be for it


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A raid sequence is generally 12 boss fights over 3 tiers of 4 fights each

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Sometimes (but not often) with some trash mobs or miniboss stuff along the way

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frequently each tier ends with something big and dramatic that gets a cool extra phase on Savage

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this is the list I'm not quite happy with

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TIER 1:

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C1: Dragon Tank

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C2: Masa and Mune, then Masamune as a second phase once they're defeated

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C3: Heckran. Or wait, would Heckran be before Masamune? It's been years

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C4: GOT to be Magus. Have Ozzie/Flea/Slash, but only as quick cameos to assist with attacks, like the other bosses do during Ultimate trials.

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maybe they only show up on Savage.

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TIER 2

Dirk Warhard
Heckran's before Masamune.

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C5: Giga Gaia. Not that plot significant, but it leaves a HELL of an impression

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C6: Yakra XIII

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C7: Son of Sun

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C8: Azala and Black Tyranno. Not sure what to do here to make Savage special.

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Not as happy with this tier. It doesn't have a big capstone

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TIER 3, AKA Black Omen

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C9: Queen Zeal. Savage update adds Mammon Machine and her second head-and-hands form.

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C10: Lavos (Exterior). Savage adds an extended initial gauntlet of forms/attacks based on the previous bosses in the raid chain.

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C11: Lavos (Interior).

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C12: Lavos Core.

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Things I want to tweak this with:

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- A proper, more interesting capstone to Tier 2

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- Something else to take up a Tier 3 slot, so that Lavos Core can be the big Savage-only finale

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[High Quality] Chrono Trigger OST 60 - World Revolut...
honestly the whole thing would be worth it just to hear the FF14 music team take on this song

Dirk Warhard
Dalton before Queen Zeal?

Quinneapolis
Dalton's such a lameass, though. Maybe throw in the Golem Twins to spice it up

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so Dalton/Golem/GolemTwins (Savage only) for C9

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Zeal/Mammon for C10

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Lavos Exterior for C11

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Lavos Interior for C12

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and Lavos Core for C12S

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on Normal, Dalton's third phase is Golem Boss, who is completely ineffective because he's afraid of heights, so it goes back to just Dalton

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on Savage he summons the Twins instead

Dirk Warhard
I think I'd sub out Heckran for the skeleton dude on the bridge, too. :|a Much more memorable fight.

Quinneapolis
good call, I did consider Zombor

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Heckran's core mechanic makes no sense in FF14, anyway

Quinneapolis
so Tier 1 is DTank/Zombor/Masamune/Magus

Dirk Warhard
Yakra might be a good sub for DTank to make Tier 1 a more cohesive Magus Arc plotline, but that leaves the question of what to do with Tier 2. :|a

Quinneapolis
I originally had Yakra, but I didn't want to use both Yakra and Yakra XIII

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also on the maybe list was Nizbel

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and Guardian

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god CT has so many good bosses

Master Chieve
This current lineup has no 2300AD representation

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
is the helper npc gato

Quinneapolis
helper npc?

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
like alpha

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
or Alisaie in the coil

Quinneapolis
I didn't realize that was a staple

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
I mean the quests gotta come from someone

Master Chieve
I figure Lucca or Malchior

thetaClysm
Son of Sun is 2300 AD representation, if not thematically typical representation

Quinneapolis
Guardian or Mother Computer could be added in

Quinneapolis
for proper 2300 shit

Dirk Warhard
Could probably finagle an adds boss out of Atropos and the R-Series. :|a

thetaClysm
Also I've most often seen chrono trigger theorycrafted as a 24-man raid series, though i like how 8-man format opens up a lot more possibilities

Quinneapolis
I've also considered it as an AR

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Magus Castle, Undersea Palace, Black Omen

Master Chieve
I was gonna suggest the R series yeah

thetaClysm
It wouldn't not work