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| [V7-2 SPOILERS] FINALLY HOME LONG ENOUGH TO TALK ABOUT THIS EPISODE GEEZ.
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Some standard "second episode set-up/game setting" stuff going on here.
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I loved "Political Activist Guy" (did they give him a name? I couldn't find him in the credits XDXD )
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It was Forest I beieve
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Forest! Okay. XDXD And they're called the Happy Huntsmen or something which...CRWBY...plz.
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I love him just going on and jumping
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Merry Men = Happy Huntsmen
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At least we know for sure that Robin is RObun!
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stallion Him jumping up and continuing to rant while the officers closed the window on him was too real.
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*Robin
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Stillw aiting on fox features RT. STILL WAITING
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Yep! Definitely confirmed for some Robin Hood fun.
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Qrow onna gt in trouble with some hot, badass warrior women!
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Also him lurking behind everyone when they left
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Which, on the other side of the fence I'm....pretty sure the Ace-Ops are all supposed to refer to assorted Aesops but I haven't yet figured out which ones.
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stallion ROFL, him like, "...Can I...also be let off here...?"
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Clover is base don one involving a fisherman
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"Pretty please? Jail is so boring"
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Apparently there's a LOT of Aesop fables with wolves, but best guess rn is The Boy WHo Cried Wold
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And the pink-eyed girl I think is probably based on Tortous and the Hare
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Snarky Geek Ooo! Okay. And rofl yeah there's any number of wolf-related Aesops. XDXD I've also seen "Wolf in Sheep's Clothing" tossed around for him.
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Still not sure about Buff GIrl and the pale guy
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With "sheep" meaning like...the social kind of sheep.
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Buff Girl's name was Elm and the pale guy's name was Vine, I think? So...something dealing with trees and vines. Was there an Aesop about acorns? I feel like there was.
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I say that because of how he was bluffing in the episode about being unhappy about working with RWBYJNRO, but it could be either
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Also, Elm is voiced by the same VA who did Ren's mom
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Either way, I'm excited to see more of them. Elm is Pure.
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I'm readyd for Hammer vs Hammer with her and Nora
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I want them to be Hammer Bros, but girls. XDXD
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AND SPEAKING OF NORA.
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FREE HER.
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Okay,s ot here IS an Aesop fable called THe Elm and the Vine
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Nora getting progressively more and more aggressive in her attempts to chew herself free had me dying.
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Nora is me with food pacages that I can't get open
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Snarky Geek AHA. Okay, that's bound to be it then.
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XDXDXD I can already see screenshots of those scenes getting meme'd to heck and back and I can't wait.
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And okay, so there's some SUPER interesting stuff going on in the scene between Team Atlas and Team RWBYORNJ (+ Qrow)
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Awww and the fable's about married love too~
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(Also can I just detour to laugh at Maria just, "Meh"-ing out of that particular mess, like "Lol, I don't know these people/they'll be able to get themselves out of this. We'll catch up later." )
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𝓟𝓢𝓛☕📔𝓟𝓻𝓲𝓷𝓬𝓮𝓼𝓼 Oh no that's cute! I'm gonna have to brush up on my Aesops. I used to love those a lot.
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("You whipersnapers are too much to keep up with! I ain't getting into this!")
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(/wwaves scythe cane int he air/)
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Yeah~ Wikipedia says this one's not quite Aesop, just Latin, but it's still cute.
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(Maria "I definitely have a record with the Atlas police and jail makes my arthritis act up" Calavera )
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...well, not being entirely Aesop helps th eone of them's a traitor' theory
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(Maria: /arrive sin Atlas/
Atlas Security: ?deep, slow sigh of resignation/)
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But YEAH, now...I love Ironwood, and I totally get where he's coming from. Because not telling people stuff is what got us into this mess in the first place.
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BUT, I'm also reminded of that quote from Men In Black. "A Person is smart. People are dumb, panicky animals."
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Y U P.
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Ironwood's plan makes logical sense... but has SO MANY problems that it's going to b4 playing right into Watts' hands
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...watever he's up to. But it's not going to be good things
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It's 100% a coinflip. It could either play out exactly like he wants or it'll make Salem's job even easier.
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Now, the real problem is, is that Ironwood's plan to deal with the fallout through the Amity Arena satellite is great? BUT A HUGE PROBLEM WHEN YOU HAVE A VILLAIN THAT'S ALREADY HAXXED YOU ONCE.
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Welle ither way, ti's gonna cause mass panic. And IDC what they said, they are NOT gonna be ready, especiallyw ith the issues in Mantle
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Amity Arena was already hacked once as was a CCT Tower (both by Cinder, presumably using something Watts had created).
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ANd yeah. Especiallys icne they didn't bother updating the code for Mantle. That is... bad.
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So putting them both together just sounds like...a terrible idea? 8'D
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Also... ave they considered that Penny could get hacked? AT ALL?!!!
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I'm sensing a lot of "coders/programming woes" from the dialogue they gave Watts and I'm cracking up because it's true.
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It'll be funny if 2 of the things people thought were going to happen in Volume 3 (Amity Arena dropping out of the sky and Penny going rogue) happen in Volume 7.
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It's like, "Rofl, you guys pegged it, just like...4 seasons too early."
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"See? We were just holding it back! WE ARE THAT EVIL!"
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8'D
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Oh and Kerry confirmed that this episode was written by Kirsei Buckhart, one of the new ones. She did awesome
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Connor Pickens directed it
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The real shame is that all of Ironwood's ideas are completely sound. Heck, the Amity Arena satellite is brilliant! It's just...we, the audience also know Salem's got an ace here so it's a race to see who figures out what first.
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Oh, she did? Yeah, she definitely did a great job! Set-up episodes are tough!
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Yep. And RUby making the decision to keep the lie up is NOT gonna help
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OKAY SEE. THE FUNNY THING IS?? TECHNICALLY. SHE DIDN'T OUTRIGHT LIE.
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She just said, "This is what Ozpin told us". Which...that is exactly what Ozpin told them.
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Yeah... but she KNOWS that it's a lie
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So... that's still bad...
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Which I'm glad cause dealing with super hard choices like this si what I've been wanting form Ruby for FOREVER and it's FINALLY happening
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So yeah, lying by omission is still a lie but I'm also more intrigued by how she covered for Oscar...and Ozpin actually by extension.
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I think she did it becaue with Ironwood's currnt state... welll... the new that Slaem can't get destroyed is... going to be bad
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Because, "Yeah, Ozpin lied to all of us and it turns out he's just been stalling for time and now he's sulking inside Oscar and won't talk to us," sounds terrible. XD
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IDK if she was relaly coveirng for Oscar/Oz aside form worrying it might lead to another 'Oscar gets manhandled' situaiton, or if she just made a split seocnd decision
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Either way... yeah... that's gonna bite them later, haha...
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Could be a little of column A a little of column B for sure.
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True. Either way, drama!
stallion
I'm kinda worried about the comment about Winter Maiden
stallion
"stable and secured"
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To be fair though, thinking about it the Relic of Knowledge, unless it has some sort of hidden additional power? Is sort of a non-player in this. There's only one question left, and unless Ironwood knows like...THE perfect question to ask Jinn, there's not much use in telling him there's a question left other than it getting used on something dumb.
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I mean, we all know Ironwood's question would be like, "How do we destroy Salem?" and he'd get the same answer Oz did and then Jinn's out for 100 years. XDXD
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Snarky Geek FREE. NORA. /bangs hands on table
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stallion APPARENTLY THE WINTER MAIDEN BE OLD AS BALLS.
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Which is sad, but also nice because lately most of the Maidens seem to...not...be making it past their teen years which is a Problem?
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There's already a theory that the WInter Maiden might be either Weiss' mom (which I doubt cause IDT she's THAT old) or Nora's grandma
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So at least it's nice confirmation that you can be a Maiden and not die young! 8'D
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Well tbf we don't know how old AMber was. Though she was probably i her early 20s at leat
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Snarky Geek Yeah, Nora's grandma seems more likely if this Maiden is at all related to any of the group but it could just as easily be someone totally uninvolved.
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Maybe it's... Weiss' grnadma! MRS. CLAUS!
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Qrow stated that Amber was "young and inexperienced" which...yeah, I'd say she was probably fresh out of school at the oldest, assuming she went to any of the Huntress academies (she may not have which would...also explain some things).
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But I'd count dying in your "early 20s" as still...not good. XD;
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And we know Spring got screwed over hard so it's like...Welp.
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fjkdjsk Mrs. Claus for Winter Maiden though
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They could also do something very clever where it's a new character based on the original version of The Snow Queen?
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Because that Snow Queen had existed for like...eons and, if I remember correctly, was living only because of an enchanted piece of ice mirror that had frozen her heart so like...yeah.
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Mrs. Claus as the Winter Maiden cracks me up though, I'd love that.
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Ah, not quite, but I do like the idea of Snow Queen homage.
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THe only thing that makes me hesitat about that si I'm almost positive that Mama Schnee is probably gonna be the Snow Queen character. But I could be wron
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(Basically, the devil made a mirror made of hate vision, it ended up breaking and shards being scattered across the world, with two shards ending up in one boy's eye and heart, so he stopped listening to warnings about the unaffiliated Snow Queen, so she kidnapped for her latest pet.)
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The Snow Queen actually doesn't end up defeated. The boy's friend ends up curing him and whisking him away when the Snow Queen leaves him in her palace and she goes out to spread winter.
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Still, tons of elements from that story alone that they could use.
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𝓟𝓢𝓛☕📔𝓟𝓻𝓲𝓷𝓬𝓮𝓼𝓼 Ah! Okay. I had a version of that story where the girl goes to the palace and the Snow Queen is there (and her friend is kinda just...freezing to death at her feet lol) and she pleads with the Snow Queen or something and that melts the shard in her heart and she...melts away or something. Wow, I will need to find that adaptation.
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Ooooh that is an interesting one.
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It was a Children's Version of the story so I'm not surprised it was toned down a bit, but still cool and sweet! ^_^
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Wait... was it an episode or a full movie? And if the former, was Eartha Kitt the Snow Queen?
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The version Mew described was the verison I knew about also. I NEVER heard of the one you described LWP
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And I only knew about it form Wikipedia
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𝓟𝓢𝓛☕📔𝓟𝓻𝓲𝓷𝓬𝓮𝓼𝓼 Oh, shoot um...it was...a short film??? I think?
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I remember it was animated but like...storybook style animated. Where the motion was limited and there were a lot of cross-fades from one pose to the next.
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Oh yeah, the original text is a wild ride: SurLaLune Fairy Tales: The Annotated Snow Queen It's a bit of a long read too, but yeah, here's the text with annotations.
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Did the verison you saw Mew look like this? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/1960_-_Earle_Theater_Ad_-_24_Aug_MC_-_Allentown_PA.jpg/220px-1960_-_Earle_Theater_Ad_-_24_Aug_MC_-_Allentown_PA.jpg
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Snarky Geek Nah, this would have been the 90s? I wanna say it was on PBS or something. That version looks a little too old.
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OH.
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IT'S THE ONE NARRATED BY SIGOURNEY WEAVER.
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THANK YOU SIGOURNEY WEAVER.
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Ah, okay!
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I think in a way Ruby's protecting Ironwood too. The man's dealing with enough already and obviously still respects Ozpin a great deal. Crushing all that on top of telling him that Salem is immortal?
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I'll have to try to find a copy of that and re-watch it, I'd love to know how much I actually remembered and how much I "remember".
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"I'm trying to do what's best, but what's best might not be what's right"
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pastel ranma Oh gosh, yeah, that's a good point. I also think this is absolutely a case of Ruby just...giving herself a chance to really get a feel for what's going on?
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Like it's all well and good that Ironwood was straight-forward with them (so far as they know) but there's obviously a Lot going on in Atlas/Mantle and it seems really unfair to just expect Ruby to put all her cards on the table while under duress.
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Plus she's only been the leader of this larger group for like... 24 hours in-show? Yeah, she's not going to maje the most perfect choice ever
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...god no wonder Nora fele aslepe whiel walking. THESE KIDS HAD A LONG DAY
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There's also nothing preventing Ruby from telling him the truth about Salem/Oz/the Relic of Knowledge later or if the situation calls for it, and that's no doubt what she'd do that if it was necessary.
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It's not like...just because she with-held it here she can't tell him later and be like, "Hey, I'm sorry I didn't mention this earlier but I was kinda over-whelmed and wanted to check things out for myself."
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I thinkt hat's the problem though. If RUby DES do the right ting and tell the truth... si that the best thing? Or is that going to cause Ironwood to go uttery nuts and cause even MORE problems? Caus ein his state, IDT hes going to jus tbe okay with evne a lie of omisison
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....... Also, I just had a sad-ish thought. If Penny joins the mega-group more permanently... we could technically have a JNPR again...
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True, But it kidna loosk liek they're putting Oscar int hat slot?
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ROFL oh no, yeah, I think in this case, this was safest for a ton of reasons. XD It's just that she can tell him later if need be and Ironwood "should" be able to understand why a 17 year old would do that. XDXD not whether he actually will
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That is true, P for Pine.
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...or we just add both and get Team JNPPR
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𝓟𝓢𝓛☕📔𝓟𝓻𝓲𝓷𝓬𝓮𝓼𝓼 Depending on what happens in Atlas, Penny might be desperately needed there but I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE PENNY JOIN THEM.
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She is the Purest. Penny for Winter Maiden.
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Someone protect Pietro
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YEAH. Now Pietro I am Concerned about.
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...oactually protect Penny cause WATTS HACKING COULD EB A THIGN
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Especially fi they still have those files that Cinder unlocked
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But could also be a great set-up for Penny fighting off that influence because she's a Person and not a Machine. 8'D
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Because I am Here For That.
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Yeah, but PAIN
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GOOD PAIN. 8'D
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Especially if she gets set aganst Ruby
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I mean, but of course!
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Like... CRWBY... pleae no... I know you willm, but DENIAL
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"I am not a gun."
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YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO IRON GIANT TOWN. YOU KNOW IT.
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...YOU KNOW HOW THAT MOVIE ENDED, RIGHT?!
𝓟𝓢𝓛☕📔𝓟𝓻𝓲𝓷𝓬𝓮𝓼𝓼
Okay, but if she goes FULL Iron Giant, YOU BETTER BUILD HER UP AGAIN. FASTER, THIS TIME!
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Well... maybe he have slf-repair this time?
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PLEASE?
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THEY DID SAY SHE WAS "BETTER".
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Being self-repairing/self-reassembling would definitely qualify as "Better".
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fjskdjsk Penny just pulls a Goddard.
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She explodes and everybody's like D: and then she just spontaneously reassembles and everybody's like, "...Oh."
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Me to CRWBY: https://imgs.plurk.com/QwD/2WM/r7xmGiF2gCOH89F8LmuwLMYztG1_lg.gif
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TRUTH.
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FJKDJKS I FORGOT THE BEST PART OF THE EPISODE.
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THESE TWO IDIOTS.
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And the shippers go wild!
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You have Qrow "only my nieces have ever hugged me" Branwen and James "Winter Schnee taught me about this great new thing called Hugging" Ironwood.
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YES
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V3: FIght! Fight!
V7: Kiss! Kiss!
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It's so dumb and awkward and I love it.
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Qrow's little eyeroll and "pat pat" I'm dying
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Lets hope that Ironwood didn't bug him here
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THAT WOULD BE SO MEAN, but also kinda funny XDXD
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Also MVP award goes to Weiss "Hugging Master" Schnee
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I challange that with Winter "You ahve ten seconds to take thos eoff before I start hurting you" Schnee
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I really love the dynamic of showing how Yang and Ruby are siblings who love each other and Weiss and Winter are also siblings who love each other and they both show each other that in different ways and understand that and it's Okay.
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OKAY FAIR.
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Bless Winter.
Snarky Geek
Lets hope that any potential Ironwood conflicts isn't going to mess that up!
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qrow lowkey loving hugs is my favorite
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Rofl yeah. I will say though that, when push comes to shove, I think Winter would side with Weiss over Ironwood. Or at least, not side with something that would put Weiss in danger/harm's way.
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So even if they end up on different sides of any oncoming conflict in an idealistic sense? The minute Weiss is in danger, Winter'd help her because like...she does love her??
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𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️ More people should hug Qrow.
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
thanks he hates it!! (not really)
Snarky Geek
Yeah IDT that Winter would ever hurt Weiss. But even WInter just siding with Ironwood over her... well... that's gonna hurt. A lot
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Rofl, yeah, definitely. But I also think that'll be a good conflict to look at. A conflict of ideals but with two people who genuinely love each other. That's a pretty contemporary issue. /nods
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For sure!
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Very elast, it'll probaby end better than it did with Yang and Trash Mom
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YEP. 8'D
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Oh also shout-out to Tyrian casually murdering somebody while on a call. What a multi-tasker.
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