Infychu
Sooooo, I'm in the market to escape this godforsaken hellscape that is iPhone. Who wants to tell me about decent Android brands to research? Windows phones can come too if they've improved, since my first Nokia smartphone was super shitty.
Infychu
My iPhone has been doing this Thing lately where it won't actually charge whenever it randomly feels like fucking me over, even though it registers as charging.
VaultSicle
I've been sucked into the Galaxy hole (heh) and I love my S8, but I know the price point isn't the best for everyone. Samsung makes some good phones.
Rizu
I enjoy the samsung galaxy series quite a bit? I recently upgraded to an S10E, which is actually phone-sized instead of being ridic big (like it's still a smart phone but)
Rizu
... lmao
VaultSicle
high five galaxy bros
Rizu
o/
Infychu
(LOL)
Rizu
my S7 lasted me a long time too lol
Infychu
FWIW, big phones aren't a negative for me; I'm visually impaired, so larger screens are typically helpful.
VaultSicle
They can last a decent long time too, because I had my S6 until it just kinda slowly /deflated noise/
Infychu
Can you delete bloatshit if you need to? (thinking)
DAIRY TREATS
i enjoy my google pixel 2
DAIRY TREATS
like a lot actually haha
Rizu
I believe you can delete some of it, but it doesn't really bother me enough for me to bother. the only thing I'd probably want to delete is flipboard, and because it's a news app you can't delete it
bwutawity
I'm also a Galaxy girl
dragillionaire
I'm really liking my Galaxy Note 10+ but it was expensive.
Rizu
(that said it OCCASIONALLY comes up with interesting articles and it isn't super intrusive)
Infychu
Bleh, stuff you can't delete is annoying, but oh well.
dragillionaire
you could probably get a slightly older model for much cheaper
Infychu
What's Bixby?
Rizu
oh right I forgot about Bixby
Infychu
Ahhhh
VaultSicle
Bixby can die
Rizu
I don't find it intrusive personally but that's me
Infychu
I don't need it to be bleeding edge TBH. (LOL) My iPhone is a 5, I'm literally 6 versions behind right now.
ex-arch
I tend to forget I even have it |D
VaultSicle
but that's only because my button is in the most ANNOYING place and I keep hitting it
ex-arch
I have to swipe several screens over to activate it
ex-arch
so I hardly ever see it
VaultSicle
the S8 has a button below the volume controls
Rizu
okay I need to heat to work, but yeah most android phones are actually pretty decent. looking up consumer reviews can be helpful, and of course the more indepth look you have here.
ex-arch
But yeah, Samsung Galaxy or Google Pixel
Infychu
I seeeeee (thinking)
ℓα∂у уєииєfєя
The Samsung Galaxy series is really good, in my experience.
ex-arch
Though my next phone will probably be a Pixel
Rizu
S10 E has that button below the volume as well, maybe that's why I don't find it intrusive? It doesn't get pressed by accident a lot
Rizu
fingerprint sensor on the power button can be a blessing or a curse, sometimes I just want to look at my phone's screen for a new notif and it accidentally unlocks lol
LOOPMAXXING
i have a galaxy s7 i bought secondhand and it's done me so well
Infychu
Oh no
LOOPMAXXING
i HAD an lg g4 but it was the worst experience of my life, 2 years of absolute hell where it bricked itself 3 times at seeming random
LOOPMAXXING
i would not recommend LG lol
cricketussy
I have a MotoG5 since I didn't want to shell out the money for something like Galaxy and it does well for me.
Infychu
I've never even heard of LG TBH, so I will steer clear. (thinking)
Infychu
I liked my Motorolla when I had one, but that was waaaaay back during the Razr flip phone days.
cricketussy
My only complaint right now is how it likes to insist on auto cutting off Bluetooth while I'm driving if the battery starts getting low at all, but I'm led to believe that's just an android thing now. It didn't used to do that but then an update "improved" it.
Infychu
I wouldn't be surprised, TBH.
Tara.
another one for galaxy!
Tara.
my last one lasted four years before it slowed down to the point i finally got a new one. this one i have rn i believe is going on three years? its an s7 edge
Infychu
NIce~
Jen
The moto gs def worth a look. ^^b Many family have them and been very happy with them. I only retired mine recently cause it was the very 1st model and getting bit sluggish as apps getting updated beyond it's cpu/ram oomph but it's like 5-6 years old so. lol It did well. XD
Infychu
Damn, that's pretty impressive too.
√√▽^)レ
had great luck with my moto g5 too, going on 3 years with it soon and still chugging away withouot issue
√√▽^)レ
the maybe one downside if you care about that sort of thing is it's not the absolute best camera and not great in low light especially
Jøʟтεøη
It looks like the Galaxy phones have been mentioned. I, too, am a Galaxy girl XD
Jøʟтεøη
I still have, and am currently using, my S6, which is quite a few phones ago now.
Jøʟтεøη
I've had this four years and the only thing that doesn't work is because I broke the charging port because I was messing with it trying to fix a cord I was using. It takes a wireless charge just fine.
cricketussy
starshiranui I literally have battery saver mode turned off and it still does it, so if there's a setting, it's hiding well
cricketussy
Also perpetually resets itself to sleep after 15 seconds, which is how I usually leave it anyway, but I do change that in some circumstances and it changes itself back, which I think happened as part of the same update.
cricketussy
Yeah, I've poked at it and I can't figure it out, but I've found a forum thread with some other people complaining /shrug
'Sail
you've tried clearing the system cache partition by going through the boot menu to do so?
'Sail
also, another vote for Galaxy. I can actually use my Samsung Tab A as a phone - it's a 7" tablet. but it's only 8GB, and you want a 16GB or better. my 2018 J3 is a 16GB, and it even fits RC on it.

that said, my J3 just updated to Android 9 (Pie) and if you haven't caught my venting in Discord, I hate it. 8 was best for me. THAT SAID, don't let 9 put
'Sail
you off like it did me; a lot of my hatred for it is because the UI is so... bubbly. I like having everything small and neat and condensed, and this just has far, far too much whitespace for me... but I'd imagine that it might help people with visual problems.
'Sail
I'm going to give it a week to impress me, and then if it hasn't, I'm going to see about downgrading it back to Oreo (OS 8-).

Bixby is utter trash; I had to try using it to set up a giant TV for a job recently and it was the most infuriating thing. however, I found out that while you can't actually disable or uninstall it, you can at least kill its self-
'Sail
-granted permissions on a J3 and tell it to STFU, which I did, and I haven't seen it again. (I'm also using Nova Launcher, so if it's sprawled itself across the home screen or something, I wouldn't know.)

to note: my J3 does not have a physical Bixby button.

said J3 is also the size of an iPhone 10, more or less, and only costs $150 new, total.
'Sail
.....and I missed above, that shouldn't be a nerdy-glasses-smiley, it should be an 8 in parenthesis.
'Sail
so when you go into the store, please do poke at the J3s, see if you like what you see, knowing you can increase the font sizes and stuff. also maybe consider poking at the Galaxy Tab line, as another "oh, what's this? would this be too big and clunky?" potential option?
'Sail
I can and will be happy to send you screenshots from my J3, if you'd like. or my S5. or my Tab A.
'Sail
(I also have an Alcatel Tetra, but that's an AT&T Prepaid model I'm just using on wifi to mess around with, because it was $25. would not recommend as a serious phone; its battery life is shit. the J3's is pretty great, though, as is the Tab's. both last all day long for me, and you know how heavily I use them.... XD)
Hᥱᥲɾt oƒ StᥱᥱꙆ
I have an S8 and my last phone was a S5, before that an S3. my work phone is an LG and I've had a few of those as well, they were tanks back when physical keyboards were a thing and are great WHEN that work but seconding the above about appliances being superior to smart phones. I lost 3 of an older model in 2 weeks.
Hᥱᥲɾt oƒ StᥱᥱꙆ
my current LG I got as a glorified digital camera it's years old and has a better camera than my current galaxy but it's only 8g so fits literally nothing apps wise
Hᥱᥲɾt oƒ StᥱᥱꙆ
the Samsung J series (saw the J3 mentioned above) is basically their reduced Galaxy series. less features, less expensive, otherwise arguably similar
Hᥱᥲɾt oƒ StᥱᥱꙆ
as someone else with vision problems and the S8+ I would suggest a Note or Tab instead depending on how bad your vision is. I'm currently using a magnifier on my phone and different apps require different angles so it can kind of give you motion sickness after awhile. you might not be as blind as me though lmao
'Sail
yeah, the J3s are basically budget-model Galaxies. mine runs RC beautifully, and you know that's a pretty heavy load for a device.... (LOL)
Jøʟтεøη
I"d definitely suggest a tab or note, considering your vision love, yeah.
'Sail
seconding the Note series too, though I don't know how they compare to the Tabs offhand.
Hᥱᥲɾt oƒ StᥱᥱꙆ
also +1 Bixby. I hit the button constantly aiming for the low volume, especially frustrating when I'm trying to screen cap things. it also gets triggered very easily in landscape mode lately but that might be pressure from the stand my magnifier has
Jøʟтεøη
I prefer the Note series from what I've seen.
Jøʟтεøη
Rowan
I've been super happy with the pixel 2, and I was pretty ok with Samsung Galaxy stuff before then until the prices and the bloatware got to be too much.
Rowan
I don't know how well the Google voice assistant works unfortunately because I keep that disabled for privacy reasons.
Rowan
But I can tell you they have a pretty good text to speech engine because I use that to read pdfs and stuff.
Rowan
And whichever you end up getting, FBReader is the best eReader app I've found for text to speech with the TTS+ plugin. The plug in is a separate app installation but it just adds the option in the main app. Android app architecture is weird, whatever.
Infychu
I'm legally blind, with something like 20/200 vision, so LMAO it's pretty bad. I can deal pretty well regardless though.
Infychu
I've never heard of FBReader :-o
Take on Mint
i have a Moto g5+ I think? it might just be a g5....but I really like this phone and my main complaint with it is that, now that I've had it for a couple years, it inexplicably resets my wallpaper to the default whenever I open tge camera
Rowan
Most people use the stock reading apps or proprietary ones like Kindle if they use eReader apps at all, so yeah third party ones are pretty obscure as a whole. Also FYI FBReader is blessedly unrelated to Facebook, it just happens to share initials.
Rowan
.... Maybe I should clarify that this is for like, you have ebook files or pdfs, and you want to put them on your phone for reading. Not a general screen reader, but not a "this app has its own walled garden library and bookstore, and good luck getting anything else into or out of our ecosystem" which is how a lot of eReader apps are.
Rowan
Lookin at you, fuckin Kindle.
Ainsley ☄
I use MoonReader+ Pro for my ebooks. It'll also do comics & manga if they're in CBR/CBZ format
Ainsley ☄
I have a Google Pixel 3a
Ainsley ☄
I got mine through Sprint's lease porgram
Ainsley ☄
program*
Infychu
WTF that wallpaper thing is such a random weird bug? (LOL)
Infychu
TBH I don't often read shit on my phone, so that's not a huge concern, but it is good to know.
Infychu
I will have to ogle this comparison link when I get home tho
Take on Mint
YEAH it's really annoying but it's like...only annoying
Infychu
I can see why TBH.
Hᥱᥲɾt oƒ StᥱᥱꙆ
I had a phone would randomly delete my wallpaper when it got older. not sure if the camera use is what triggered it, I think it was just lack of use. like it changed overnight?
Infychu
Weird.....
Hᥱᥲɾt oƒ StᥱᥱꙆ
yeah it made me mad because my wallpaper was a pic of my dog that I didn't have anymore so I'd have to constantly hunt it down on my phone to reset it. until eventually it just stopped letting me change it back at all.
Infychu
WTF
Infychu
JFC my battery jumped from 25% to 20% to 12% in the span of like 3 minutes.....
'Sail
the battery may actually have reduced capacity, and as it's getting to what had been 25%, it's suddenly realizing it's actually lower than it'd thought.

(I've had batteries do this to me before....)
Infychu
Could be :|a
'Sail
that, or it's possible there's some power level reporting/discharge shenanigans going on due to temperatures.
'Sail
or both, idk.
ArtIsArt
Windows Phone is SUPER DEAD.
ArtIsArt
Motorola's doing some nice stuff.
Infychu
It's not AS hot as it's been lately, so IDK if it's temperature-based. Either way, I made this plurk at an opportune time, research may be a LITTLE more time sensitive than I'd initially thought.
Infychu
I'm glad to hear it's dead TBH, mine was real weird. It wouldn't let me update at ALL, either via wi-fi or literally plugging that shit into my computer or anything. Nobody could figure out why, but it made stuff randomly stop working.
Infychu
I have achieved escape velocity from Apple Hell
Infychu
Ended up with a Pixel 3A
Infychu
The price just dropped to $299, so that was a nice surprise.
cricketussy
Nice!
Jøʟтεøη
yay~
'Sail
woo! congrats!!
Infychu
The trade in value on my iphone would've been pretty much NOTHING, so I guess I've got a spare thing to connect to wifi with and that's about it.
'Sail
hey, nothing wrong with having a spare device! ....goodness knows my own collecting habits started because my only tiny droid died one day and I had no other device to serve as a phone until I bought one on the spot one day. :-( that's how I got my old J3. I don't regret it, just the timing and cost then and there.
Infychu
Truth~ Though it won't be good for much, I think without a sim card they can only make emergency calls?
'Sail
yeah, but here's the thing: should your Pixel die somehow, you can move the sim card back to the iThing.
'Sail
presto, it's your active phone again
'Sail
get the Pixel fixed/replaced/etc, give the sim card back to it!
Infychu
True~ though heaven knows doing literally ANYTHING to an iphone is a bitch and a half.
'Sail
yeah, well, if it still works as a backup phone, that's a plus. :-)
Infychu
Yup~ It's just battery issues, after all.
'Sail
mmhm!
Infychu
Last time I tried to change out my battery, they couldn't get it out, and had to replace the whole phone. That's the only reason I lasted with Apple for so long TBH. (unsure)
Infychu
When even the company's OWN TECHNICIANS can't change a simple part that's designed to be replaced.....
'Sail
yeeeeaaaahhhh.... though afaik, Apple's phone batteries aren't designed to be replaced.
'Sail
if they were, the back would pop off easily, and you'd have a hard battery you could just switch out, not a soft battery that's wired in.
Infychu
I mean, the guys at the stores are supposed to be ABLE to do it? But apparently if they don't come out easily enough, they're at risk of just EXPLODING if they try to force it.
Infychu
Which. Yeah. Not fucking impressed.
'Sail
...did they tell you "risk of exploding" to try to reassure you that you shouldn't do it yourself/make themselves seem like totally the better way to go about doing it? because that's A Thing. ....not so much the explosions, as techs talking themselves up....
'Sail
to be fair, it's definitely not something for the average user to attempt. glass is fragile, and the screens are actually really easily broken - it just doesn't happen as often as it could, because phones are relatively hard behind the glass and keep it rigid. but if you're taking the phone's layers apart, you're more likely to bend something than not.
'Sail
and who wants to mess with soldering in batteries' wires? and having to be careful with the soft batteries in the first place?
'Sail
I would not trust my friend Ian to do it. ever. and he runs a game store. (I joke that we don't trust him with a screwdriver unless it's merely to change out some double-A batteries, but there's a reason for that.)
Infychu
They told me that was the reason they had to replace the whole phone, since they couldn't get the battery out. v(unsure)v Which TBH, I don't care if they're lying or not. If it's true, then fuck Apple for endangering their workers. If it's not true, then fuck Apple for pretending that battery changes are a thing that's possible, and for making it impossible
Infychu
for people to change it themselves.
'Sail
it's the latter.
Infychu
/pats Ian
Infychu
Yeah, that's fair then.
'Sail
some phones simply don't have user-changeable batteries, for one reason or another. couldn't get the design to work with it and still be slim and nice? planned obsolescence? deliberately wanting their high-end devices to seem incomprehensible to the average user, to maintain an air of mystique? /shrug
Infychu
Planned obsolescence, from everything I've read.
'Sail
however you slice it, it means, for like 99% of users, that their best bet is to take that fragile device in to a service center where they can take it apart without damaging delicate components, do a soldering job, and then hand it back knowing it's been done right and not damaged anything.
'Sail
but tbh, the soldering is the least of it. it's getting the screen off that's the hard part.
Infychu
Yeah, I'm sure.
'Sail
if they were okay with their higher-end heavily-advertised flagship models being designed like their lower-end ones, they'd make the batteries replaceable.
Infychu
I was able to change my battery on my old Windows smartphone myself effortlessly, back in the day, the back popped right off. For some reason though, that thing just REFUSED to accept updates, at all, period. Even the service people had no idea what was wrong with the software.
'Sail
that is the big difference, tech-specs aside.
'Sail
lol
Infychu
LMAO maybe getting a budget model will be helpful in that regard. The A actually has a HEADPHONES jack, and the normal 3 doesn't.
'Sail
yeeeeup.
'Sail
"budget model" (imho!) normally equates to "I don't care to have it be some glamor shot snooty PROP, I just want something with reasonably good specs that WORKS and even my sister might be able to do basic service tasks on." (she is not a techie person, unlike me.)
Infychu
(LOL)
Infychu
Yeah, my mom has a Galaxy, and it's slick as hell? And she's super into photography and stuff like that, so I'm sure it's good for her. But TBH I don't give a shit about that, and I don't want to pay like $700 more to be able to do that stuff.
'Sail
but that's when I'm looking at stuff like the J3s. "budget model" in other senses often means stuff like "they make it with last year's/year before last's parts, then undersell it, because they'll still turn a profit in prepaid costs." aka the little Alcatel Tetras I have.
'Sail
EXACTLY.
'Sail
the flagship models are the ones you over-pay for, to have the Latest Greatest Shiniest Newest Things What Look Super Impressive.... until the next new thing comes out eight months later.
Infychu
$300 isn't bad, for a phone. And I generally take pretty good care of mine, even my shitty iphones have lasted like 3 years before the batteries started crapping out each time, and those are only DESIGNED to last for a year, maybe two.
WingsOfCover
I've always been happy with my samsung phones
'Sail
in some ways, they rely on people buying into the fashion of wanting to show off to other people, plain and simple. you have the latest iThing or Galaxy, on the day it drops? oooh, you're soooo cooool. ....and about three hundred bucks lighter than you could've been if you'd waited a while, somehow, I'm sure of it. :-P
Infychu
Yeah, I really like using my mom's Galaxy when I've helped her with stuff? It's a NICE damn phone.
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
I have a non-Galaxy Samsung and it's great.
'Sail
J3 forever here, lol
'Sail
(Samsung Galaxy J3, for clarity - their "budget" line.)
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
But I admit that I also have only had a smartphone for one year and it is this non-galaxy samsung and thus do not have a lot of experience with anything else
'Sail
also, as far as cases go, I'm very happy with spending about $0.80 on ebay for a clear, soft tpu skin for my devices - it gives them a nicely grippy surface and protects from scuffs and stuff. I don't need some huge bulky Otterbox type case, when the tiny little skin will keep me from dropping it in the first place, lol
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
it's the something prime or prime something i can never remember off the top of my head
'Sail
plus, then I can fit multiple devices in my pocket at once! :-D ......I mean. um.
Infychu
T-Mobile only had Galaxy for Samsung to start, so not a ton of options there.
Infychu
LMAO
'Sail
yeah, J3 Prime sounds about right. does the back come off and you can take out the battery?
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
i agree. otterboxes are ridiculously huge.
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
okay looking at the phone's data it does say it's a Samsung J3 yep
'Sail
yeeeeup, figured.
'Sail
J337, or...? not J320, I presume...?
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
J337AZ
'Sail
(my old J3 is the J320 - the 2016 model of J3. my current one is the J337, which means the 2018 model. I can't remember what the 2017's number is off the top of my head....)
'Sail
aha! so the same base model as mine - AT&T edition, looks like?
'Sail
mine's not AT&T, but.
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
Cricket
'Sail
yup! XD
'Sail
that letter on the end signifies carrier customization. A is for AT&T - I think Cricket is under them.
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
Yep. Cricket is the cheaper and TBH way better version of AT&T
'Sail
sweet.
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
much better customer service, much nicer people, and monthly payments not tied down to a contract
'Sail
tell me you got the 16GB, though, not the 8GB model?
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
yep
'Sail
16GB is, imho, the right "low end" for capacity. I got sick of my J320 only having 8GB - so, functionally about 3GB - which was what started its downfall. :-(
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
i'm a simple person who doesn't use their phone for a lot
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
i have like seven apps on it that didn't come with the phone
'Sail
it's cool. I just can't fit my current mobile game and... basically anything else, tbh... on an 8GB droid at one time.
'Sail
so I'm forever like, but why, tho?
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
yeah the only mobile games i have on it are like dancingballz and pipeart
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
otherwise it's like plurk, twitter, my bank, my car insurance, my car loan app and amazon music haha
'Sail
lol
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
my major mobile games go on my tablet
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
which is also a samsung
'Sail
I've got... Discord, Plurk, Asus's browser (I really like it, no lie) and their file manager... VLC, RadioParadise, my few games, eBay... Youtube came with it....
'Sail
Chrome...
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
omg vlc on your phone?
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
i legit never would have thought of that
'Sail
best music-player app ever, yes: you can browse directories with it!
'Sail
I don't bother with playlists often - either I play whole albums, or I play a folder full of songs I've collected, so that's... kind of a playlist in its own right, I guess?
'Sail
and downloading m4a files off Youtube does not lend itself well to everything being neatly tagged and all. (LOL) ....so most music apps can kiss my butt, since they rely on scanning the droid for files, then organizing them by tags from within the files. which vlc can do too! but it doesn't have to, you can browse the file system.
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
huh. i don't bother keeping music on my phone unless i plan to use it for a ringtone. i download it to my computer but i just use the online version through amazon otherwise. saves SO MUCH on space.
Ainsley ☄
yeah the vlc app for android is lovely
Ainsley ☄
I have a subscription to google play music which has a locker feature: I can upload up to 50k songs from my desktop and it'll be available to play in the app/browser
'Sail
I listen to RadioParadise, and when I find a song on it that just speaks to me, I go into Dentex's Youtube Downloader, find it on youtube there, and then snag the audio stream, to save it to a folder on my SD card. so I have a slowly-growing folder full of random favorites that sometimes, I just open up VLC to queue up, and set to repeat-all & randomize.
Ainsley ☄
so all my music can be streamed
'Sail
I don't do anything over cell data if I can help it, and I'm not always on wifi, so offline music is my jam.
Ainsley ☄
yeah I can download it to my phone
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
i basically only use data and somehow barely scratched 2GB each month.
'Sail
RadioParadise is a streaming service - with a caching function of up to roughly 7 hours for the live stream, and 12-hour chunks for random later listening.
Ainsley ☄
but I also have an unlimited plan
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
my sister uses like 8GB+
Ainsley ☄
wheee that's a lot
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
but she's also streaming netflix
Ainsley ☄
that'll do it
'Sail
mine is 3GB/month, so I save that for checking on my game and browsing the net/ebay.
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
girl is obsessed with her k-dramas and taiwanese-dramas
'Sail
I highly rec RadioParadise to everyone, btw: it's not like Pandora or Spotify where you pick things, it's just one station that a DJ curates, and they play everything from Vivaldi to Talking Heads. through them, I've discovered Younger Brother, Caro Emerald, and a huge list of others.
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