Neo Quinn
[bloodstained but also in general] something that is always kind of bizarre in games: crafting systems that let you craft mythological weapons
Neo Quinn
item description like "a legendary spear forged by the gods "
Neo Quinn
no it wasn't
Neo Quinn
I forged it, just now
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counterpoint: any given protagonist is on par with gods
Neo Quinn
I was there
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(but yes I feel this)
Neo Quinn
replace gods with Zeus or whatever you get the idea
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does bloodstained have actual mythological weapons? They have flowery descriptions but I don't remember any gungnirs or excaliburs
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like if memory serves the Grand Izayoi talks about sealing souls in the blade and it's like uh no i just made this by rubbing metal on another sword
Neo Quinn
there are at least a few with descriptions that like
Neo Quinn
give the weapon's backstory
Neo Quinn
and I'm like what fucking backstory it has existed for 20 seconds
Wighty
maybe you're just making replicas of the mythological weapons
Wighty
like a plastic version for collectors
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this is not the greatest sword in the world
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this is only a tribute
Awe
These gluttonous jewels respond to the resplendence of insatiable longing. Infinite darkness consumes good and evil alike in a distortion of peace. The pearly gates await thee; come, I shall guide thine way.
- Granblue Fantasy's description of the Seven-Star Sword Obsidian (craftable)
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(That would certainly explain why Dawn of Sorrow's Claimh Solais is nowhere near as good, or usable, as Aria's)
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(You find one in a castle while the other is Hammer stapling some souls onto a sword)
moontouched
yeah it feels like the most straightforward interpretation is either "it's a replica based on a legend" or it's some esoteric Weapon Soul Channeling shit
Awe
funnily enough class champion weapons in Granblue actually start with unpainted plastic replica versions and the crafting process is "let's make this actually a usable weapon"
Neo Quinn
"this digimon was created when a tree was cursed and came to life" I just watched it evolve from a blob with an ahoge
Awe
the revenant weapon process starts with a dormant version and has to be awakened
Wighty
magcargo is hotter than the sun
yousoro!
Sierokarte "hmmm this is literally a plastic toy but if you farm enough materials we can turn it into a sword that kills gods"
yousoro!
Gran/Djeeta "ok cool sounds legit"
Awe
and then they did it
Awe
Kengo is real good
連続犬
on the subject of bloodstained
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and of "swords with legends"
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i have to put ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ on blast because she had to be directly told about The Thing with zangetsuto when she is in fact the person who knows the most japanese out of that entire friend circle
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we were literally shouting HANNAH IT'S BASICALLY CALLED "THE MOONFUCKER 9000"
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EVEN WE, PUNK-ASS WEEBS WITH VERY LITTLE ACTUAL JAPANESE KNOWLEDGE, KNOW THIS
Neo Quinn
to be fair The Thing with zangetsuto is pretty fuckin obtuse
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
ITS ALSO NAMED AFTER ITS WIELDER!
ooh mama suemay
yes but
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
ITS NAMED "ZANGETSU'S SWORD"
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you have a man named moon-cut and he gives you his sword, which is moon-cut sword
Neo Quinn
but only one specific moon, at one specific time
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
WHY WOULD I THINK MORE ABOUT THAT WHEN ZANGETSU IS IN FACT ENOUGH OF A FUCKER TO NAME HIS SWORD AFTER HIMSELF
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(yes it's obtuse)
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rather, yes it's obtuse and I agree with you two but I am backpedaling enough to erase out potential spoiler-adjacent things
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because even if all of us know bloodstained not everyone does yet
Neo Quinn
I should have just crafted zangetsuto
Neo Quinn
"that's my sword" "no it isn't, I made it"
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...why couldn't we have had the old corny tautological SotN item descriptions
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"oh what mythology is Gram from" "it's the sword named Gram"
Neo Quinn
"this is the mythical sword Gram" "sweet. brb, I'll make six"
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
anyway I am going to argue my Japanese proficiency actually made it harder for me to figure out because my brain just went "zangetsu's sword, he named it after himself, the sword for zangetsu, kuzco's poison" and didn't think anything past that.
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yeah that's totally fair
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because Japanese people name themselves things that actually make sense as words in a context far more than English-speaking people do
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like occasionally you'll get an oldtimey profession "Shepherd" or "Smith" or "Cooper" but very rarely will a British Bloke name himself Moonfucker
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(Usually they'll have the name under three or four languages worth of appropriation, instead /bricked)
yousoro!
Allan Moonfucker, of the Aberdeen Moonfuckers
thetaClysm
after Curse of the Moon, the existence of a sword called zangetsuto, and the thing it is presumably intended to do, cannot possibly be a spoiler
thetaClysm
we been there, we done that
thetaClysm
(still at the beginning of the game)
ooh mama suemay
thetaClysm : ironically, I had never touched Curse before playing Ritual! That’s fair, though
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