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[Rebuild of Eva 3.0 spoilers]
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Episode 2 of the TV series
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Shinji is taught by NERV how to fight and not run
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At the climax of the episode, Misato tells Shinji to run
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But he recklessly ignores her and does the thing that's in front of him
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because prior information in his brain blocked out the latter information
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while he panicked
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in REbuild 3.0
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Kaworu tells Shinji to do the lancey thing
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Shinji goes to do the lancey thing
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Kaworu goes "wait shit don't do the lancey thing"
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Shinji recklessly ignores him and does the first thing
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probably because he's panicking
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and what Shinji does when he's panicking is remember ONE THING someone told him to do
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and he fucking does it
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so like big juicy murkrows that's what I was talking about
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it feels more consistent than I thought
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yeah I figured
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I was thinking about 3.0 myself
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this doesn't mean 3.0 is good
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just that that one scene bothers me less in hindsight
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3.0 is still bad
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YOU DIDN'T WIN
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no of course 3.0 is bad
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but yeah the Shinji Ikari playbook has definitely always been
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commit to a course of action and ignore everyone who's like "wait no this is a bad idea actually!"
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making decisions is hard
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he's not out here to make more of them than necessary
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yeah criticism of that scene in particular always confused me because it's 100% a shinji ikari move
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but also 3.0 is a bad movie you're right
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I accept that scene now with open arms
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which I will then use to punch the rest of the movie
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i think i somehow retroactively did a ton of weird lore research that convinced me that 3.0 is great, actually, but i like
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remember absolutely none of it
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i think i also did somehow justify the lancey thing but i don't remember how lol maybe it's exactly the same reasoning you had just then!
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I don't believe that any amount of lore could Make 3.0 Good
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because none of it would change the structure of the movie
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there's also like—you can SEE the sunk cost fallacy kick into effect in the scene, because kaworu only realizes not to do the lancey thing pretty much AS the eva is reaching for it
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shinji has put All This Effort into doing the lancey thing, like, what's he gonna do, NOT do it?
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which is "incoherent events happen in sequence, Misato tells you what's happening, then you move on and a new incoherent thing happens with no connection to the last one"
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"repeat until the protagonist is catatonic"
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especially when kaworu was the one who told him to do it?
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i really hated that 3.0 basically trashed the ending of 2.0
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which i actually did like
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1.0 and 2.0 were REALLY good
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yeah
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then 3.0 is just
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nothing
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and 3.0 just felt like an instant runback on everything
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3.0 was an unedited kawoshin fanfic rough draft that had its beginning deleted by accident during uploading
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40 minutes of a really good kawoshin fic
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and nothing else
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'j/k that rei is dead and nothing matters'
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the kaworu content was good tho
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my inner kawoshin shipper was.......living
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and in that moment we were all kawoshin
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gay rainbow piano horses...
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remember Kaworu taking the collar off
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and then putting it on himself
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instead of, like
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getting rid of it
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that was weird yeah
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like the kind of weird that gets me yelling in ZTD
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man we are fucking mind-melding today
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yet again the same thought I was having at the same time
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almost like some kinda instrumentality
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me, knowledgeable: he put it on himself because of symbolism. or because there was probably some security protocol that it had to be on SOMEONE or it would blow up
me anyway: SCREAMS UNINTELLIGIBLY ABOUT HOW STUPID IT IS
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what kind of security protocol wouldn't have triggered the instant it left shinji
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i truly don't know
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honestly i do think it's more of the symbolism of it, like
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it's not just that kaworu is freeing shinji of the collar, it's also showing that he's willing to take on the risk from it himself? like a really fucking stupid trust ritual
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it makes sense as symbolism but like
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trust falls, but much more frustrating and fatal
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a good script would make it also work as actions characters are taking
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yeah
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my brain came up with the theory that it was developed by using research on angels so kaworu can just fucking Do That but i realize there's literally nothing to support that and it's just my monkey brain desperately trying to make it work as a scene
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instead of just having nonsense happen because it fits the symbolism
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that's true
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yeah i mean. a lot of 3.0 is like, it can only be good if you personally stretch it and reform it in your brain. it requires a lot of active desperate participation on your part as a fan to make it seem good
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which feels very in line with anno's whole "fuck eva and fuck everyone who likes it" thesis
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yeah
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anno: i hate you, personally, and everything you stand for
me, an eva fan and professional clown: please hurt me more anno
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yes, exactly that, yes
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I remember a post from when they announced the title of Eva 3.0+1.0
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and it was like
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"Hell yes. This is the Evangelion bullshit I'm here for"
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yes EXACTLY
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hear me out
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"It feels like I'm home, and the house is on fire"
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the real eva 3.0+1.0 is the movie never coming out.
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this IS the last eva movie.
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I absolutely believe that 3.0+1.0 is never coming out
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anno has always intended to release a quadrilogy of films that's 3 films long.
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i truly believe that, in my heart.
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being an eva fan means also being a fan of anno hating you, personally
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this is anno letting loose 3 greased pigs and labeling them with the numbers 1, 3, and 4
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god the phrase "quadrilogy of films that's 3 films long" is very good
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SECRET GOOD FOURTH REBUILD MOVIE
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jesus
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GOD
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FUCK
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fuck
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