tronja307020
I hate my hyperfixating adhd brain so fucking much.
tronja307020
On one hand, I can't imagine living my life without being passionate about the things I love. I love loving things.
tronja307020
But on the other hand, the way it traps my mind in a constant, unpredictable ebb and flow of fixation to fixation without my control is sometimes unbearable!
tronja307020
It makes it so the only thoughts that I can have in my head are those related to my fixation, I can't have a single conversation, I can't have a single thought in my head throughout the day, that isn't always in one way or another turned back around to that thing.
tronja307020
The strongest ones are fandoms, but I sometimes do it for crafts and hobbies, too.
tronja307020
The worst part is, by the time I've learned to temper the new fixation and function mostly like a normal human being again, it will eventually drop out from under my feet, so that, while I still love those things, I just don't feel them as passionately as I did before, and my desire to do things with them dries up.
tronja307020
It's why I can't stay in an rp game for long, no matter how hard I want to. And I always end up feeling like a failure and a bad friend, because others have developed cr with mine, or there will be plots that I'd been planning to work on, and then all of it just goes away.
tronja307020
And that's if something else doesn't come up and completely hijack my fixations and tear my interest in the current one out of my fingers and force me to go after another one.
tronja307020
I know I'm doing that with Good Omens. Severely. Like. I think it's to the point this one may be a problem? But By God, I can't stand the thought of not loving things this much! And this is one of the best, most pure, most wonderful thing I've fixated on in a long time. This one is even more pure then Doctor Who. It doesn't have as many problems
tronja307020
because ceetain writers went off the rails and brought in toxic elements, it doesn't have a fandom that's tearing itself apart at the seams because there may be non-cishet-white-men in it. GO just feels like pure happiness.
tronja307020
aaand yeah, a lot of that is probably the fixation speaking, but I'll still think it's an extremely good representation of a healthy relationship after my head has cleared. It's just the intensity of it.
tronja307020
But then...I just fixated again and didn't even realize it. I wasn't even going to talk about that stupid show in this plurk, but I still did.
tronja307020
I just don't know what to do, sometimes. I don't have the money for medications, and even if I did, I don't want to lose my ability to feel love for things! I don't want to lose my passion! I feel like I'd lose myself in the process!!!
tronja307020
The most I can ever hope for us that I'll finally fixate on something that holds my attention for years on end, again, like when I fixated on Hellsing. But that was years ago. And...I don't want to fixate on toxic things anymore. I still love Hellsing, but it was a pretty toxic story.
tronja307020
Also, I don't want to make everyone hate me because I can't stop only having room in my head for thoughts about one single thing.
tronja307020
Maybe I'm just PMSy, idk. I just know I've got a panicy, hard-to-breath feeling in my chest because I know I'm fixating and I can't stop it. And on some level, I don't want to?
tronja307020
I just...know I'm going to make everyone hate me, and I never wanted that.
papermint tiger
/pets gently
papermint tiger
I will always be happy to talk with you about fandom shit even if i don't know the fandom
papermint tiger
Heck i love learnjng about new fandoms so there's that too
tronja307020
I think part of it may be worse with this one because of how good the relationship is in the story, and it's something I desperately want to have in my life some day, but don't think I'll probably ever have.
𝔯𝔞𝔦𝔫𝔟𝔬𝔴 𝔭𝔦𝔯𝔞𝔠𝑦~
it's ok <3 you're awesome regardless and I love your breathless enthusiasm
tronja307020
I'm not even talking about over the top storybook romances, either. Just. Someone who loves me.
tronja307020
So. yeah. I just. Kinda. Started living vicariously through it, which is just as dumb. But what can you do when you're this alone? HAH
tronja307020
I'm glad I haven't pissed you guys off yet. I have such a hard time telling when I've crossed a line or made a fool of myself ;_;
tronja307020
And maybe it's just my brain wolves acting up, but I just...feel this. Unshakeable, absolute certainty that I will eventually. Like it's a fact of the universe, one of the laws of physics.
tronja307020
Mel Will Always Go To Far.
papermint tiger
If you cross a line i'll tell you, but man. You'd have to like. Murder soneone or something
papermint tiger
To drive me off. I am very clingy with the people i like
tronja307020
thank you
papermint tiger
tronja307020
I try not to, and a lot ofnit is my anxiety speaking, I know. I just have a lot of fear about it. The closest I can come up with for a reason behind it is because when I was a kid and got bullied all the time, I would have people be nice to me for a while and then turn around and start bullying me later, so...just...
tronja307020
If you're the common denominator, then you're the one at fault, obviously? I din't know if it's true or not, just kids being kids, but that's the way I internalized it.
tronja307020
I must have been doing something wrong to maje them hate me so much, so...just...yeah.
tronja307020
constant internal screamung, YOU'RE FUCKING IT UUUUUP!!!!!
cricketussy
Mmm that kind of thing will have that effect
cricketussy
But honestly I'm enjoying having someone around who's as excited about GO as I am
Exacerangutan
tronja307020
I'm glsd. and I really love talking to you guys about it. But I just don't know whether I'll e tok much if I don't hold everything back inside, and I worry people will be mad or frustrated or irritated wiith me when I come down from the high and ha e trouble staying focused on it again
Exacerangutan
//clings to your ankles gently// I can sympathize a lot, for what it's worth :X
papermint tiger
Nah i bounce around a lot of fandoms, i can hardly be annoyed at someone doing the same
papermint tiger
I was also bullied as a kid so i super get you there
tronja307020
I think simetimes maybe I do it because I can't really feel...happy? without these things to make my day better? If I don't have them in my head, I just feel...numb, maybe. so I don't want to stop.
tronja307020
I wish I could get antidepressants
tronja307020
...But also yeah, it's nice to feel love, even if it's by fixating on a really wonderful ship, since I can't find it myself irl.
tronja307020
and boy isn't that fucking sicj in the head? How soul-bondery does that fucking sound?
tronja307020
mrrrrrgh. I dun wanna go to work today. /burrows under the covers/ Why can't I stay hooooome
Exacerangutan
...........yup, hi there twin.
Exacerangutan
//looks slowly toward his cluster of shippy meme and PSL threads//
tronja307020
really sucks, doesn't it?
tronja307020
Literally the closest thibg I've had to a romantic relationship was my ling-distance best friend, and the ship rp we did every day for years.
tronja307020
I've never had anything else. I hate it. i've never been hugged or touched or kissed by anyone who wasn't doing it platonically or family-platonically!
tronja307020
I'm 35 fucking years old!
tronja307020
At this point, I'm very not-ace, but I wouldn't even care if someone didn't want to be sexual with me but still wanted to be romantic with me.
tronja307020
I just
..mcksajvkx
tronja307020
fuck
tronja307020
I'm a fucking mess!
𝔯𝔞𝔦𝔫𝔟𝔬𝔴 𝔭𝔦𝔯𝔞𝔠𝑦~
Same here man
𝔯𝔞𝔦𝔫𝔟𝔬𝔴 𝔭𝔦𝔯𝔞𝔠𝑦~
you're not a lone
𝔯𝔞𝔦𝔫𝔟𝔬𝔴 𝔭𝔦𝔯𝔞𝔠𝑦~
I'm the same age too XD
tronja307020
I hate it
tronja307020
Literally all I've wanted since I was a kid was for someone to love me who wasn't my family, and I don't think I'll ever have it.
tronja307020
Sister says I'm orobably just PMSy right now. Which. Fair. Still in a bad place right now.
𝔯𝔞𝔦𝔫𝔟𝔬𝔴 𝔭𝔦𝔯𝔞𝔠𝑦~
you never know, love. As long as you're alive the story isn't over
tronja307020
yeah. That's what my mom and sis keep saying. I've just reached the point where I don't have any hope for it. I'm so far past the point of hope that I usually can't even be sad about it anymore.
Exacerangutan
I hear that all too well ._.
cricketussy
/hugs
cricketussy
It's a hard thing to find, but possible
cricketussy
And in many ways better to be single than to be in toxic relationships... I say from unfortunate personal experience
papermint tiger
The whole soulbonder thing has gotten both a bad rap and out of control. I feel that as long as you have a grip on reality and it's not hurting anyone, who cares if you're deeply attached to fictional beings
tronja307020
Oh, honestly, I'm just consoling myself with the fact that by the time I do find someone, hopefully we'll be mature enough to be over the whole drama shit and know what we want out of life.
tronja307020
And I just try very, very hard not to be soulbondery 'cause...I don't talk about it much, but I tend to use my muses as glorified imaginary friends, like I'm not a functioning adult. And that's bad enough as it is.
papermint tiger
Lol i do the same....
tronja307020
Oh good, so I didn't just sound like a complete lunatic. >A>
cricketussy
You're not alone
cricketussy
at all
cricketussy
People have kind of stopped talking about anything that sounds remotely "soulbonder" because we're all afraid of wankgate and whatever and it's bullshit. You're normal. Most writers talk to their characters in their heads to some extent.
cricketussy
It's not a problem until you actually lose your grip on reality
papermint tiger
yeah
papermint tiger
i actually once mentioned in WG about how much dying messed my character up
papermint tiger
in that way where you know how it is, you try to do a thing and your character goes 'no'
papermint tiger
or they do that thing where they just do stuff without your permission
papermint tiger
and i got 'soulbonder' thrown at me and i was like '...that's what you take from my comment, jeez'
tronja307020
Uuuuugh, yeah, there are so many times that my characters will actually derail something I'm writing! It'll start off as one thing and then halfway through, WOOP! The Doctor really wanted to talk about this one thing, I guess!
tronja307020
That's the mildest form of it, for me, too. Like. I absolutely know that it's in my head, a figment of my overactive imagination! But that doesn't mean that, when I'm out in public, I don't sometimes find myself channeling them in little ways. Seeing a really cool deck of cards that Gambit wants, looking for a really nice pocket watch for the Doctor,
tronja307020
seeing some rando on the street do something that makes one of my muses >B/.
papermint tiger
haha yeah
tronja307020
And when I'm feeling really really upset or hard on myself, I mentally seek out those "voices" because sometimes I can't make my own brain believe that those things are wrong, but the Doctor sure as Hell would understand and try and talk someone down from a really severe depression spike.
tronja307020
It's all in my head, but boy howdy am I going to use it if it keeps me from losing my mind.
tronja307020
I've also had to completely canon update characters to get them out of horrible places before, because after a while, they can't function with the baggage I've unintentionally put on their shoulders, and they refuse to come out of the unhappy ball of misery they've curled up into and are refusing to play. It's not fun. I try not to do overly dramatic stuff
tronja307020
too much anymore because of it.
tronja307020
Hell, some of Thirteen's conversations in Genessia were ones that she completely derailed on her own.
tronja307020
I feel bad if it happens too strongly. I've had people who played the same muse as me in sandboxes who freaked out when my version of a muse that was deeply traumatized in canon actually was, you know, traumatized. So I don't even know how to judge my own characterization, anymore.
cricketussy
Oh god, yeah. I haven't run into that one personally, but I had a friend who got picked on for, imo, playing a character accurately and not just limiting him to his cheerful facade that is, canonly, very explicitly a facade
tronja307020
...This wouldn't be a chubby skeleton, would it...?
papermint tiger
lol
papermint tiger
yeah it's so strange when people freak out at characters acting like. well, real people
papermint tiger
because that's what they're supposed to freaking be, in the game context
papermint tiger
i try not to bring up the trauma much because a. no one wants or needs that, b. i'm not looking to get my character 'fixed', and c. i figure a real person would downplay it anyway
cricketussy
tronja307020 : No, it wasn't
cricketussy
And yeah, I played a character for a while who was a. super traumatized and b. a not that well written villain and I was sort of excited to play him for how dark he was, and then ended up having anxiety basically every second I had him in a game over how dark he was
cricketussy
and felt like I was constantly torn between feeling like I should downplay everything and feeling like I was censoring so much I was getting OOC
cricketussy
It sucked
cricketussy
and I kind of haven't wanted to play much in public settings on dw since because it just made me realise how much I am paranoid about becoming a wankgate target
cricketussy
I miss the days before wg really became a thing. And as far as the whole "soulbonder" thing goes, back then, it was so common for me to just casually mention some way my muse interacted with my life or for muses to just start talking to each other in the middle of ooc chat conversations
cricketussy
We all just kind of acknowledged that characters take on a life of their own and that doesn't make them separate entities, just a piece of your own mind that happens to speak in a slightly different voice.
cricketussy
Which, as has been pointed out in here already, can be a really useful cognitive tool under the right circumstances
tronja307020
Yeah, honestly, I'm always sort of low-key terrified wankgate will latch onto me. I totally am happy it's there sometimes, for when someone who's really legitimately toxic comes up and I can know to avoid them. But even then, most of the time, it's always the same person and I don't even have to check there, anymore because the Doctor Who rp community
tronja307020
on dw is pretty good about warning each other that they're back.
tronja307020
and yeah, I remember when I was a kid and first rping, a character derailing things was an extremely common topic of conversation. it wasn't seen as a bad thing at all, just an amusing quirk of the art form.
tronja307020
but ywah. mine was over my Sans muse that that happened, and before that, my Tron muse was waaaaaaay too depressed (post Legacy/Tronzler) and had to be sort of rebooted.
tronja307020
So I try to stick to characters who are happier people, now, even though characrers working through shit can be reallt therapeutic for me, too, in moderation.
Un(t)sundered
Yeah, agreeing that sometimes characters just kind of... taking a thread a way you didn’t expect happens?
Un(t)sundered
And sometimes the only way you can tell is to... do that thread
cricketussy
Yeah, and sometimes things do just kind of wreck them for a while, to where it's hard to write anything with them, or hard to write unless it's a very specific thing for a while
cricketussy
because they're just so affected by whatever happened
tronja307020
Yeah. It can be super hard to figure out where things will go. Which can be so much fun! But also can be so frustrating for me because I worry I'm going to derail it to the point people don't want to play with me anymore. ;T
Un(t)sundered
tbh, the derailment can be just as fun?
Un(t)sundered
finding out where things are going is great!
Un(t)sundered
And if we knew how every thread was gonna go right off... why rp at all, I feel?
tronja307020
Yeah, I love the spontaneity of it, that's why I love RP instead of just writing things myself. If I wanted to know the story from beginning to end before it was written, I would just write it. But I love to throw characters into a situation that I and they can't anticipate and see how they react to it!
tronja307020
Which is kind of a fascinating psychology thing, when you think about it.
tronja307020
It's like...I don't know exactly what you would say it is we're doing, but it's something weird and complex and...my brain is too fuzzy from crying earlier to think about how to put it into words properly right now.
tronja307020
We're not just writing a story, we're letting these characters live, in a way. If that makes sense? They're different then us, we wouldn't do or say the things they do, we wouldn't react the same way. And sure, they're not actually real, but it's absolutely a...fluid thing? dynamic? uuuugh, what is that word?
tronja307020
psychological analysis of these types of things really fascinates me, the way the human brain works and does things that are so strange.
cricketussy
Roleplay is basically the same as improv
cricketussy
It just happens in text and in slower motion
tronja307020
Yeah, that makes sense. Like I said, my brain is fuzzy right now, so I'm not able to put it into words as concisely as I would be able to normally.
cricketussy
And when you improv, your character is going to be a thinly veiled version of you, somehow or another, because you can't get too far away and still spontaneously react in a way that's believable. But it's not you.
Un(t)sundered
Yeah, agreed about it being basically improv
cricketussy
And roleplay is like that, too, because you have to react to things in the same way. Even if you can stray farther from "you" because you can take time to think about tags and whatnot. The strong muses still have overlap and people will fill in the gaps in any character with their own life experience.
tronja307020
It's too bad I'm such shit at improv irl. lol Though maybe that's because I get social anxiety? 'cause when me and my sister do it when we're jsut talking about fandoms, we do it really easily.
Un(t)sundered
I may have a general idea of how a thread is likely to go going in, yeah (more if it’s a psl I’ve plotted out to some extent)
cricketussy
But yeah, the point in either case is reacting
Un(t)sundered
But the actual dialogue/ reactions are on the fly
cricketussy
and it's never going to go exactly how you imagined it in advance in your head
Un(t)sundered
More so, if I’m playing someone like the Fourth Doctor
cricketussy
The same way real conversations never go exactly how you imagined they might in your head
tronja307020
Yep. that was the thing I was going to mention, about how real conversations don't go the way you planned them, just because of the constantly shifting dynamics.
cricketussy
tronja307020 : Probably anxiety. It's a comfort level thing and I was nowhere near as good at it when I started.
cricketussy
Doing improv well relies on you trusting yourself to spit out something spontaneously that'll be good enough in context. It takes some effort to develop that.
tronja307020
Yeah, it just makes me kinda :<, 'cause I always kind of enjoyed drama in high school, but I'm just...not quite comfortable enough to be really great at it. Though if I'd taken it every year in school when I could have, I might have been better at it.
cricketussy
/nod
tronja307020
See, and that's part of the problem, too. I'm not even witty enough to come up with comebacks on the fly for when people are bullying me, let alone when it's not an emotionally charged defense mechanism.
cricketussy
Going to be contrary on that and say it's easier when it's not an emotionally charged situation. Harder when there are stakes.
cricketussy
And you don't have to be witty every time you open your mouth so that helps
cricketussy
But yeah... I stopped doing improv because I ran out of classes with the group I was doing it with and didn't have a team to keep going with, but also I realised I have to be careful with it because it's super fun if I'm relaxed but if I'm having an off day it can wreak havoc with my anxiety
cricketussy
RP's pace is better for me
tronja307020
Probably it doesn't help my confidence in these things when the rest of my family is super quick on their toes for improv and comebacks, so I have a really high bar to meet for my everyday exposure to that sort of thing. >_>
tronja307020
and yeah, I can definitely see why that would make your anxiety go through the roof. Oooof. I'd be a constant ball of
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