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[endgame thoughts again]

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I am less upset about Natasha dying and more upset that the ending was so focused on Tony's sacrifice.

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she went and it was her choice - for her family. it wasn't like Gamora being murdered (still pissed!!)

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anyways she deserved better and that's all I've gof

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Natasha dying would have been less awful if it was given the respect it deserved

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from a narrative point, and from her arc - it made sense but yeah. she got like 2 comments at the end and that's it

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tstark epic attention hog to the last

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like I love the guy but lbh

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no issues with Tony I just... Nat deserved more than a few lines.

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I mean the attention hoggery is only partly his fault as a character, the writers have always pushed him to the forefront also and it doesn't do his arc any favors :S

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but I am genuinely glad he got a reasonably good resolution finally!

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oh yeah that's been pretty consistent since like... the 1st avengers movie

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yeah

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i don't really hold that against the character i just get Tired

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especially when, as you say, they spend so much time on him that others get shafted

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like civil war was a good avengers movie but not so much a good cap movie because it did center on him a lot

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yeah pretty much

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i'd disagree on that one but in general yeah, he doesn't need to be in everybody's business all the time, marvel, let him rest

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and I understand that this is rdj and cevan's last film but

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yeah

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they've also consistently wasted natasha so....

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other than that I really did enjoy endgame a second go around

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that's good!

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nat and clint have always been super sidelined

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yeah

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which is Deeply Frustrating

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more annoyed about her getting shafted since I think Renner is still signed for more

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sigh

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my other complaint is still Needed More Carol but

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(and the other two core guys have been played for comedy too often imo)

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everything needs more carol tbh

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I think given her own movie wasn't even in production when this was made... probably made it hard

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/nod

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slash they wanted to have the core avengers do the heavy lifting

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so she'll be all good to go for the next phase of things