Gloomy
[twdg s2] ice cold take edit: honestly now we're just discussing twdg
Gloomy
sips water
Gloomy
Jane still sucks
Gloomy
that's it, that's the whole plurk
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
them's the facts
Gloomy
remember when everyone instantly latched onto her because she was "The New Molly"
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and then she risked a baby's life to get you on her side
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colder take
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twd is shit
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
it sure the fuck is
Gloomy
ehhhhhh /vague hand wobble
Gloomy
s2 and s3 are Bad. s1 is alright and s4 looks pretty good, all things considered
Gloomy
a shame they're not even gonna finish it??
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s1 is salvageable, at least
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
I can't stand the survivalist sociopath bullshit it outright encourages
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rem gets me
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It's Bad Civilization,
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
I can't even watch most people play it because they go for that shit
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see here's what drove me bonkers from minute one
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
they make those choices depending on how useful someone is and it's garbage
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the antagonist of s1 is geared towards calling you out on all the shit you did
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....................even if you did nothing wrong
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at all
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
y e a h, there's that shit
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bitch,
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i'm still mad
Gloomy
lmao yeah
Gloomy
you do all the good things only, and the guy barely has shit to say about you
Happy Hogswatch
Jane is pretty much what's wrong with the zombie apoc story fans
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YOU CAN DO NOTHING WRONG EXCEPT THE SHIT THE GAME MAKES YOU DO WRONG
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B I T C H,
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
it's almost like
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
the game was expecting you to be a bad person
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it's annoying bc an antagonist that's geared towards shit You The Player actually did is cool
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but--yeah what rem said
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
it encourages you to be and doesn't know what the fuck to do if you weren't
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
because you clearly straight up weren't supposed to take the high road the whole time
Gloomy
fwiw I thiiiiiiink you can call the guy on it?
Gloomy
maybe. it's been a while
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
I think you can but like
Butt Ho-ho-hole
From what I hear, tt is finishing s4 before they close
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
that's a bit of a token dialogue option thrown in there when it's like the whole point of your climax
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p much
Butt Ho-ho-hole
also S1 is still one of my favorite video games ever
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
s1 did still have
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
some good shit
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
in this house we love and support lee everett
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lee deserved better, by god
Gloomy
Butt Ho-ho-hole : there's a bunch of non-official statements flying around that says they're just closing down after ep2
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which is honestly just fucking wild
Gloomy
if they're being made to stop halfway through a season
Butt Ho-ho-hole
Polygon wrote an interesting article about the ending of S1 and how it was the one choice that really mattered because it doesn’t matter to the story what happened to Lee, but it matters to the player
Butt Ho-ho-hole
also, the ending song from S1 is still raw and hits me in the emotions
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
the ending is the good shit
Gloomy
Which is a shame because S4 is honestly Good Shit
Happy Hogswatch
The interview of S2 with the guys laughing and high-fiving each other for 'finally killing Sara'
Happy Hogswatch
really made me nauseous
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
Happy Hogswatch : that right there is like, why I could never go back
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
like that soured me on the entire series so much
Happy Hogswatch
I get it, Sara was really unpopular among the vocal fans
Happy Hogswatch
but it's disgusting
....Farlem.
shitpost take: looks like the real walking dead was telltale games all along
Happy Hogswatch
(of course it figures the guys who really made S1 what it is were no longer at the company)
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
sarah did nothing wrong and people are gross
Gloomy
kataranisword: w o w
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ugh
Gloomy
SARAH DID NOTHING WRONG
Happy Hogswatch
It didn't help I read Sarah as someone that was autistic and never really give proper coping mechanisms
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
oh I absolutely did the same
Gloomy
she did literally nothing at all wrong
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
which made it, so much worse
Gloomy
yeah, same. which makes it worse that so many people choose to abandon her
Happy Hogswatch
she's just a girl who never was taught how to cope being forced into shitty situations and expected to act like an adult
Happy Hogswatch
and you save her? she's just killed in a really stupid way
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wait was she not explicitly non-neurotypical
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cause it seemed real fuckin clear to me
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
she's a fucking casualty for the sake of showing SEE YOU CAN'T KEEP PEOPLE AROUND IF THEY CAN'T PULL THEIR WEIGHT
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rubs temples
Happy Hogswatch
they never made it explicit
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
UH-OH BETTER GET RID OF HER QUICK WOULDN'T WANT TO FORCE YOU TO KEEP HER AROUND HUH GUYS WINK
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i hate the whole zombie genre i swear to god
Happy Hogswatch
and seem to try to blame it on her dad being super overprotective
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
it's gross, i hate it, i'll be mad forever
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i need to go watch zombieland so i can retain some shred of hope in existence
Happy Hogswatch
but so did about most of the people you could save, they get killed about ten minutes later, and never get mentioned again
Happy Hogswatch
You know what's bad?
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everything
Happy Hogswatch
John Romero, y'know the guy who started the genre
Gloomy
speaking of
Happy Hogswatch
he was full on "You wannabe rambos are the real threat."
Gloomy
remember Nick
....Farlem.
john romero hates the fuck out of the zombie genre now
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
I don't blame him
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god bless.
Happy Hogswatch
"Not the zombies, the zombies were never the threat, it's the idiots and assholes."
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/single tear
Gloomy
The guy who had to chance to die in like, the second episode, and if you save him, he coasts through ep 3 entirely in the background
Gloomy
and turns up dead in ep 5
....Farlem.
oh wait
Gloomy
just, offscreen
....Farlem.
George Romero
....Farlem.
John Romero is the doom guy
Happy Hogswatch
George, thank you
Happy Hogswatch
I keep mixing them up
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
hey, TWDG, if you want to kill a character off, just fucking do it
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
the whole "oh you have a chance to save th-- nope they just died a little later anyway" thing got real predictable real fast
Gloomy
It feel like that
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is a problem with the telltale format in general
Gloomy
idk I don't know how to program games, so I'm not sure what you'd do with this episodic format
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
yes but it's more noticeable in TWDG since most other series don't have people in mortal peril every five seconds
Gloomy
to not have that problem
Gloomy
true
Happy Hogswatch
S1 managed to disguise their lack of choice
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
how to not have that problem: just let the rescue attempt fail
Happy Hogswatch
basically with multiple the choices, the fewer choices you make the more significant they are
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
instead of keeping the character around for like five extra minutes, like,
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
it's still bad, it's still a limitation
Gloomy
Yeah
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
but it makes me feel less like I'm being dicked around
Gloomy
even back in Season 1 you had like
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Ben
Happy Hogswatch
I like how TWAU the choices are more about how other characters perceive you
Gloomy
Who fucking does nothing and falls to his dead like a loser no matter what you do
Happy Hogswatch
instead of altering shit
Gloomy
Happy Hogswatch : yeah that's the best route for this gameplay format
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
I hate how they handled Ben
Gloomy
Don't act like everything you do will affect things, just. focus on One Aspect
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
(and how most players reacted to Ben)
Happy Hogswatch
yeah, like I disliked how Ben ended up ditching Clem, but he's just a high school kid way in over his head
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
Ben had the unfortunate role of, like
Happy Hogswatch
and likely was already fairly traumatized by the time we meet him
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
being too young to have any of the maturity to handle what was happening
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
but too old for people to hold his hand like the younger kids
Happy Hogswatch
given he was the one who had to tell the crew being bitten wasn't what causes zombification
Gloomy
I feel really bad for Ben, because he's a good example of how a kid would react to situations like this and end up making dumb decisions
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
and being, very understandably, freaked the fuck out
Gloomy
...but he never gets to do more
Happy Hogswatch
(god now I'm fucking mad how S2 basically had Omar die in a dumb way and chased Christina out of the plot)
Happy Hogswatch
then the dog!
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
ha ha
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
y e a h
Happy Hogswatch
the dog was just pointlessly cruel
Happy Hogswatch
Clem gets yelled at no matter what you do
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
the dog was massively uncomfortable
Gloomy
the dog thing seemed like
Happy Hogswatch
it's just there for miseryporn
Gloomy
An idea everyone thought was really good on paper, but it didn't translate to gameplay well
Happy Hogswatch
that's another s2 problem, the literal 10(11) year old ends up leading the adults around and then getting yelled at shit shouldn't have been her responsibility
Happy Hogswatch
*for shit
Happy Hogswatch
you're the adult, she's the kid
Happy Hogswatch
Act like adults
Happy Hogswatch
(my go-to s2 fix? Ditch the adults entirely and have Clem stumble onto a brownie scout day camp, bunch of kids who went out for the kid, and been spending the several months or so really fucking confused as to what's going on and fending for themselves so that gives Clem a reason to be the leader of a group
Gloomy
that.... is kind of the plot of S4
Gloomy
except its a boarding school
Happy Hogswatch
Happy Hogswatch
aah, well honestly it's just frustrating how much the adults acted way more immature then Clem
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
it was pretty... bad, yeah
Gloomy
................
Gloomy
I'm gonna wait for an official statement from telltale tbh
irish lizzer
The absolute best part of TWD:
irish lizzer
"Did you lick it?" "I dunno."
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agreed
𝔞𝔢𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔞✶𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔰
co-signed
Gloomy
clem is best child
Gloomy
best thing to come out of telltale
Happy Hogswatch
yeah, Clem was amazing
Gloomy
.....man
Gloomy
Remember when they won game of the year
Gloomy
and now this
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