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Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 6:58 PM

[OCs] Concept finally solidifying for Eric's new YYH-homage setting

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 6:58 PM

oho

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 6:58 PM

I will, if I may, lay down some Devil worldbuilding

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 6:58 PM

I had written that one off as no one else being interested in it

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 6:58 PM

Please by all means do so

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:00 PM

so my vague idea is that the primary role of devils in the metaphysical shape of the world is, like

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:00 PM

someone to play the role of villains for humanity

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:01 PM

either for the trials a soul undergoes before reincarnation, or to (very occasionally) show up aboveground to give humans something to be afraid of

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:01 PM

and therefore to try and be better than

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:01 PM

but devils are not, as a race, evil - they're not villains, they just play villains on TV, so to speak

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:03 PM

I love it

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:03 PM

So with that in mind

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ

@lastbastion

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:05 PM

i am into it

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:05 PM

with that in mind, Akna & Kaax

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:06 PM

Akna is a teenage (or whatever the equivalent is in devil lifespans) delinquent who has sort of broad, vague problems with authority

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:06 PM

and Kaax is an ancient devil of incredible power and actual malice

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:07 PM

actual malice or "performed to scare human souls" malice?

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:07 PM

actual malice

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:07 PM

But Kaax was defeated long ago, and is now spending 1,000 years sealed inside a magic club as punishment for whatever it was he actually did

Echo

@EchoDoctor

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:08 PM

Does this club happen to look a lot like a baseball bat?

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:08 PM

IT MIGHT

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:08 PM

anyway, at some point, Akna gets in trouble, probably for doing something stupid and annoying to someone powerful and influential

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:09 PM

she is NOT sealed inside a magic club, because that's a serious sentence and she is legally still a minor

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:09 PM

so instead she is assigned human-terrorizing related activities as community service

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:09 PM

and ends up with Kaax for some kind of reason I've yet to sort out

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:09 PM

but basically it's Big Evil being wielded by Small Evil

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:10 PM

and not being used for anything world-shaking no matter how much Kaax wants it

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:10 PM

Kaax convinces her to take him with her because he doesn't want the authorities to find him again

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:10 PM

I mean, Kaax is effectively a baseball bat, the authorities are cool with him going wherever because he can't get out of his seal until the sentence is over

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:10 PM

At least at first he's worried that if STYX or whoever notices that he's still around they'll banish him for another 1000 years

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:11 PM

he's still mid-sentence

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:11 PM

Ahhhh

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:11 PM

Akna's story role is as a minor antagonist who is perfectly willing to hang with the protagonists when she's off duty

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:11 PM

...I didn't realize what I had done until just now, but uh

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:11 PM

in short

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:11 PM

the devil

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:11 PM

is a part-timer

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:12 PM

incredible

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ

@lastbastion

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:13 PM

amazing.

Echo

@EchoDoctor

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:14 PM

I love it.

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ

@lastbastion

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:14 PM

i imagine if other devils know about kaax they'd basically super hate him but like

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ

@lastbastion

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:14 PM

kaax is to other devils what jared leto is to actors. "look that edgy asshole got so into his role he's doing some stupid shit"

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:14 PM

ahaha

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:14 PM

god

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:15 PM

Kaax's influence on the world outside his bat is limited to talking, and powering up his wielder

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:15 PM

Suddenly Kaax's actual personality solidifies

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:15 PM

so basically Akna's power level varies based on how much Kaax approves of her actions

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:15 PM

but maybe over the course of canon some of Kaax's power rubs off on her personally

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ

@lastbastion

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:16 PM

but yeah i'd imagine devils would super hate kaax just on "you are why we can't have nice things. yOU ARE WHY PEOPLE HATE US INSTEAD OF JUST FEARING US FOR OUR JOBS"

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:17 PM

back in the old days, devils were closer to their mythological depictions

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:17 PM

they've since mellowed out a lot but their role was useful in the grand cycle

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:17 PM

so they still keep it up as needed

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:18 PM

some older demons do wax nostalgic about the bad old days

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:18 PM

devils*

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:18 PM

Devils and Elves seem to have a similar cycle

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:18 PM

- Used to be super hard core

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:18 PM

- No one liked it

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:18 PM

- Now they're much calmer

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:19 PM

I kind of imagined that as the flow of the cosmos in general

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:19 PM

in olden times, demons were all manner of monsters that people told horrifying tales about

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:20 PM

in modern times, everyone's gotten organized and stopped eating people

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ

@lastbastion

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:20 PM

i mean

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ

@lastbastion

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:20 PM

looks at the raizen arc of yyh

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ

@lastbastion

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:20 PM

seems legit?

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:29 PM

Akna and Kaax possibly get involved with whatever mystery it is that the good guys are investigating

MundersOWundus

@therealbliss

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:29 PM

What do you want to eat?

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:30 PM

???

MundersOWundus

@therealbliss

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:30 PM

Kaax: "THE SOULS OF THE DAMNED!"

MundersOWundus

@therealbliss

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:30 PM

Akna: "...A bagel."

MundersOWundus

@therealbliss

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:30 PM

Kaax: "NO!"
Akna: "TWO bagels."

MundersOWundus

@therealbliss

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:30 PM

first thing that came to mind

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:51 PM

there we go

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ

@lastbastion

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:52 PM

... so i just wanna point out

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ

@lastbastion

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:52 PM

shino sees souls more readily than material objects.

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ

@lastbastion

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 7:52 PM

so she would probably see these two as just, akna literally wielding some poor devil like a bludgeon.

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 8:55 PM

This is weird for the setting, though not necessarily bad

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 8:55 PM

Because now we have, like

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 8:55 PM

Authorized tormenting of human souls

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 8:56 PM

AND unauthorized tormenting of human souls

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 8:56 PM

"A devil is tormenting these souls!"
"Does he have a permit?"

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 8:57 PM

tormenting alive human souls is probably the bad part

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ

@lastbastion

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 9:08 PM

living souls that aren't, like, specific targets to make people remember devils exist

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 9:09 PM

I imagine those are very carefully monitored and barely happen anymore

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 9:09 PM

ever since cameras became widely available

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 9:13 PM

It's not terrible for someone to get a picture of a devil, but it is a problem for someone to get a good picture

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ

@lastbastion

Wed, Aug 15, 2018 9:19 PM

yeah

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 2:02 PM

Back to this a bit

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 2:02 PM

- are glamours a thing? I know Eric's elf was chosen because he can easily pass as human so if there are glamours they're probably at least imperfect or impractical

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 2:03 PM

- Akna is that "short girls are so mean because they're closer to hell" meme personified

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 2:03 PM

like 4'10 but magically strong and also just shredded beside

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 2:05 PM

- Red skin, yellow eyes, horns, spends a lot of time loitering with intent to do crimes, texting, or both

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 2:05 PM

- if minor glamours are a thing, uses one to disguise Kaax as a baseball bat

Master Chieve

@Overbringer

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 3:31 PM

Glamours are a thing but they’re expensive and unreliable

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ

@lastbastion

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 4:13 PM

i would also imagine that glamours are like. less reliable the more they have to change?

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 4:13 PM

thus club to bat

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 4:13 PM

but she still has to get pretty creative to not get immediately outed on the surface

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ

@lastbastion

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 4:14 PM

like, hiding elf ears and nothing else is pretty easy and consistent. but making a ten foot tall devil with wings and tail and red skin etc look like a human is basically just an auto-fail.

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 4:14 PM

Akna's not rich enough to afford more than one glamour

Quinn Angstrom

@quinn2win

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 4:15 PM

so either it's the bat or it's the horns

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ

@lastbastion

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 4:18 PM

maybe just. bat and then a baseball cap to hide the horns