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Thinking about the Junji Ito Collection anime again
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There was an observation I saw about Junji Ito's work a while back
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that I think explains why an Ito anime doesn't work that well even beyond the fact that it was Studio DEEN
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Junji Ito's short stories have a simple narrative beat they like to use
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that basically goes
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1. You learn that there's something weird, but you haven't seen it yet
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2. You see the weird thing
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The latter usually as a full-page spread of fantastically fucked Ito art
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but the thing about this beat is that it's inherently tailored towards the medium of a comic
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I still think my favorite ending to an Ito story was the one where they guy saw a creepy woman out his window looking at him
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because what's unique to comics
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And then her window started physically distorting the side of the house to get closer to him
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So they fucking moved
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is that, 1, you absorb a whole page's worth of visual information all at once, in chunks
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Sorry tangent carry on
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and 2, the reader has control over when they move on to the next page
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so when you get to right before the scare, you know it's coming, but you still have to basically jump scare yourself
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and a lot of Ito's freaky shit moments are built on that emotional beat, but in an anime it's just gonna be, here's a scary thing now
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it doesn't give you the chance to psyche yourself out over it
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like, OK, concrete example
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early on in The Enigma of Amigara Fault
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https://i.imgur.com/D6NStre.png https://i.imgur.com/F8kad8Q.png Here's a pair of pages
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you see their reaction to the strange sight, there's a page break, then you get a massive, detailed shot of it
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you could prrrrrrobably simulate that audience-agency by keeping the reveal in the next episode so you gotta hit "next" to see the reveal, but that doesn't really work
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then you learn all about the holes, what they do to people, what their purpose is, etc
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https://i.imgur.com/BFVR4A9.png then, this is the second to last page
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which gives you just enough information to draw the horrible conclusion
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page break
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https://i.imgur.com/Z1a8uod.png resolution
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yeah you're discovering things at the same pace and tension that the characters are
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god, Amigara Fault might be the best single chapter of manga ever drawn
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I read it years ago and I got fucking chills digging it up to get these pages
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drr drr drr
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i love junji ito and yeah this is a solid breakdown of why it doesn't translate well to anime
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I mean even if it did, Deen wouldn't have done it justice
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not that i've actually seen any of the attempts to do so, but i can imagine it
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the art is so bland
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and low-budget
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which one(s) did Deen attempt?
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It's an anthology and I've only watched episode 1, which was uh
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the voodoo doll nails guy
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oh him
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which is honestly
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a really bad point to start on
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because it's kind of meandering and weird
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yeah, it's.... yeah
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that kid's actually like a recurring character, or rather there are several vignettes about him and his family, like if Twilight Zone had a sitcom family that only showed up every few episodes or something
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so it's...a weird one to start on if you're not going to just collect all of those stories into one place and skip the other horror one-shots in between them
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they ended with a quick short about someone's daughter turning into a doll and like
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there was more tension in those 90 seconds than the preceding 20 minutes
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lmao
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yeah if you were going to make an anime out of junji ito's one-shots or anthology stories, i...would have skipped nails-kid entirely
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Red Turtleneck strikes me as one that would make the transition to anime pretty well
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honestly just do an anime of Hellstar Remina
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2018 saw Devilman Crybaby, audiences are ready for Hellstar Remina
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oh fuck dude Hellstar Remina would be a killer anime
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Do it cowards
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I'm still surprised somebody did Gyo, although given the shark scene, I probably shouldn't be.
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Gyo is so dumb
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I love Gyo
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GASHUNK
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why do people keep letting deen do horrors and thrillers
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Deen should only do gag anime
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they can do action? shouldn't, but it's not....
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The first like
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fate was less of a trainwreck than umineko or ito collection
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3/4ths of Gyo is amazing
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Didn't stick the landing
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Fate/Stay Deen is pretty bad
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