Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:12 PM
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[AB Game] One last hurrah! Triple game scope, 10,000 runs, this time tracking kills.
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:13 PM
A kill is counted if you are a member of a team that picks BETRAY and causes someone on the other team to die.
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:13 PM
Here's the final list!
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:14 PM
Echo: 72 wins, 1460 deaths, 40 kills
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:14 PM
Only capable of killing someone if she's paired with a faster, meaner partner at the right time.
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:14 PM
Lenga: 2662 wins, 22 deaths, 138 kills
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:14 PM
Tries to avoid killing, but is also willing to Betray killers.
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:15 PM
Gray: 91 wins, 141 deaths, 237 kills
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:15 PM
Very defensive so wins rarely, but also pretty hard to kill.
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:15 PM
Foxfire: 403 wins, 221 deaths, 276 kills
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:16 PM
Is meaner when fighting fewer people, so kill count is low.
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:16 PM
Prof: 1196 wins, 307 deaths, 400 kills
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:16 PM
As expected, right in the middle.
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:16 PM
Emily: 1099 wins, 21 deaths, 469 kills
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:16 PM
Emily was surprisingly hard to kill with how chaotic her strategy was
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:17 PM
Peter: 1625 wins, 3 deaths, 538 kills
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:17 PM
I think we all know who's going to be at the top of this list
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:17 PM
Leriel: 1259 wins, 2 deaths, 559 kills
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:17 PM
Leriel came damn close though, in a longer game the Grim Trigger is going to do a LOT of betraying
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:17 PM
Kasu: 3135 wins, 0 deaths, 565 kills
𝗛𝗮𝗽𝗽𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗡𝗲𝘄𝗬𝗲𝗮𝗿!
@phainein
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:20 PM
holy fuck, kasu
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:20 PM
Kasu's strategy was Always Betray
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:21 PM
In the VLR LP thread, if memory serves, they were able to find exactly one strategy that would beat it
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:21 PM
Called the Monokuma Strategy
Princess Emily
@deerleisure
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:21 PM
I'm gonna say. The game probably isn't the best design when picking betray every single time is the hands down best option
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:21 PM
which went something like
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:21 PM
- Betray if your opponent has killed someone
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:21 PM
- Betray if you can kill your opponent
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:22 PM
- Betray if you can reach 9 points this round
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:22 PM
- Otherwise Ally
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:22 PM
Princess Emily In an actual execution there's a lot more player psychology to it, but Always Betray wins because bots can't recognize an Asshole Player
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:23 PM
Kasubot would be deadass fucked by round 3 of a game against humans
Princess Emily
@deerleisure
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:23 PM
How? Is there a way for a betray to lose points?
Princess Emily
@deerleisure
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:23 PM
I don't recall there being one.
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:25 PM
you don't have to lose points to lose the game, since the game ends when someone reaches the target points
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:25 PM
once people notice you're betraying every time, they'll always betray against you, and you'll never advance
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:26 PM
and someone else will escape first
kamikasei
@kamikasei
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:26 PM
If you Ally and your opponent Betrays, your team gains 3 points and your opposing team loses 2 points.
kamikasei
@kamikasei
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:26 PM
Is this backwards?
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 2:26 PM
Yes.
Echo
@EchoDoctor
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 4:28 PM
I can't believe mine was the only one that wound up below triple digits...
Echo
@EchoDoctor
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 4:28 PM
Like I knew there'd be a kill count gap, but jeez.
Neo Quinn
@quinn2win
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 4:29 PM
also the only person to die over 1000 times
Like a Phoenix
@graygriffin
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 4:30 PM
I'd be kind of interested in seeing an "evolution tournament" of these strategies similar to this game about the original Prisoner's Dilemma
Like a Phoenix
@graygriffin
Thu, Feb 8, 2018 4:30 PM
Although I guess it'd work kind of differently
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