duck bastard
r💀ll them b💀nes
papermint tiger
Hahah oh my
i stay silly :3
I MEAN
ArtIsArt
This made me smile.
i stay silly :3
On the one hand schadenfreude
Guardian Bear J
The only reason I'm not laughing is that because by the time all is said and done, the only people going to get anything out of this are the lawyers. :/
Guardian Bear J
A sale like this is the kind of thing that motivates big money to change city ordinances
Guardian Bear J
And if the news story is reporting the facts correctly (which I'm sure it isn't, 'cause there's some glaring omissions...) then I've already spotted three good legal challenges for both sides. ... Combined, not per.
Guardian Bear J
The GOOD NEWS, Schadenfreude-wise, is that the homeowners' accounting people are definitely screwed here.
ht is joyful 👻🌸
duck bastard
on one hand, sad. on the other hand, I'll take that and also I learn something new from J every day
papermint tiger
I almost wonder if they were quietly like 'maybe no one will notice if we just keep quiet...'
papermint tiger
We'll never know of course but. That's a lot of money to not realize you weren't paying
Guardian Bear J
The city fucked up, the accountants REALLY fucked up (and are going to be the big losers here), the homeowners fucked up, and the buyers... made some unfortunate choices that are going to bite them on the ass.
Guardian Bear J
I CAN DESCRIBE EACH FUCKUP, IF INTERESTED. :-D
duck bastard
if it brings you joy, J, I am by all means interested
Guardian Bear J
/cracks knuckles
Guardian Bear J
Bearing in mind that all of these observations are WITHOUT knowledge of San Francisco city and county law.
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
how does that....even.....
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
/pulls up chair
Guardian Bear J
The Auction: If they sent the notice to only one address, then the city is in violation of the law. By law, you're required to send notice like that to ALL PARTIES OF INTEREST
papermint tiger
/sits down for story time
Guardian Bear J
At ALL KNOWN ADDRESSES.
go тo вread
/sits
Guardian Bear J
That means every address ever owned by the accountant, each and every adjacent homeowner, as well as the people who are named on the deed of ownership. (Probably the the accountant, possibly not.)
Guardian Bear J
Further, government auctioning of land, at least in Nevada, requires notice to be posted or announced in a place where it can be reasonably expected to be seen.
Guardian Bear J
(Newspaper, Radio, a visible posting on the property itself...)
Guardian Bear J
Mind you, "Newspaper" is highly subjective. XD Here in Vegas, the newspaper is the "Nevada Legal News".
Guardian Bear J
NEXT, the accountant. Failure to file a proper change of address is a nono. Failure to PAY BILLS is a big nono. You can't claim ignorance on property taxes. (You can, but it doesn't work.)
go тo вread
Ah yes the legal newspaper, I am familiar with that one due to name changes.
Guardian Bear J
At the very least, they're going to get cited for... whatever the accounting term is for malpractice. Pretty sure it's malpractice.
Guardian Bear J
They're also going to get sued to hell and back by their clients if this goes through. The accountant is basically done, professionally.
Guardian Bear J
The homeowners group, even if they didn't receive notice (Which I find difficult to believe, but certainly possible), still has a responsibility to be aware of what's going on with their property. The guard company, at the very least, should have been notified of this and in turn should have notified the homeowners' group.
Guardian Bear J
And finally, the buyer... Shrewd purchase, which I applaud.
Guardian Bear J
Shopping it around immediately like that? Ethically questionable, and it's definitely going to be tied up in the courts for years.
Guardian Bear J
Further, they're now on the hook for EVERYTHING on that street, which is going to become a problem for them very quickly.
WOMEN'S WRONGS
a $14-a-year property tax bill that the homeowners association failed to pay for three decades how does a bill go unpaid for 30 years like that
Guardian Bear J
And finally, by employing that surveying company, they tipped their hand way too soon. The wiser course of action would have been to flip the property in a public, short-notice advertised auction. They've basically left themselves wide open for numerous legal challenges, which are definitely coming.
Guardian Bear J
And like I said, this is the sort of thing that makes rich white men write checks to get ordinances changed. :/
Guardian Bear J
XD As I said, you can't claim you didn't know property tax was a thing. It just doesn't work.
go тo вread
xD
Guardian Bear J
It was ABSOLUTELY a willful decision.
duck bastard
thank you for the fascinating lesson, j
go тo вread
tell me more legal stories uncle j
Guardian Bear J
Alas, Legal Stories are far to numerous and varied to be pulled out of a hat. Though many precedent setters are entertaining!
go тo вread
<3
Guardian Bear J
But you see why I figured there had to be some omissions in the story?
Guardian Bear J
WAY too many people would have had to have fucked up way too many times for things to happen like this by chance... and if they HAD fucked up this bad, that would be newsworthy in and of itself.
papermint tiger
Yeah, wow
ɪ ᴀᴍ ɪʀᴏɴ ᴍᴀɴ
There’s no point in acting surprised about it. All the ordinances have been on display at their local planning department for 30 years, so they’ve had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it’s far too late to start making a fuss about it now. If they can’t be bothered to take an interest in local affairs, that’s their own lookout.
Guardian Bear J
Might you be willing to read some... poetry?
ɪ ᴀᴍ ɪʀᴏɴ ᴍᴀɴ
PLEASE, ANYTHING BUT THAT
i stay silly :3
It was downstairs in the basement in an out of service lavatory with a sign on the door that said "Beware of the jaguar"
papermint tiger
...i need to dig up my copies of that
ɪ ᴀᴍ ɪʀᴏɴ ᴍᴀɴ
apathetic bloody neighborhood. I've no sympathy at all.
papermint tiger
yeah, they must have been apathetic or deliberately ignoring this, that it came to their street being sold
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