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Someone help me, I can't sleep
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Rolls around with my mind filled with too many thoughts about my life, my future and what I want to do for a career and shit
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Make it go away so i can sleep
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I keep thinking i should do this i should do that.... there's a lot that i want to do
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Too much, even
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But also i shouls be prioritizing skills i can make a career out of
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Or at least land me some good jobs
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Hgerrhfghrh
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Rolls around
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I WANT TO SLEEP BUT I'M WIDE AWAKE AAAAAAAA
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Things i want to do: learn japanese and chinese to full proficiency, learn how to program (not everything lol), get to actually exercising and reducing food intake to lose weight (related, learn how to cook)
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Learn acturial science and or finance, crocheting, how to make vidya games
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make vidya games with me sky
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Ten bajillion drawing related things like how to landscape, better anatomy, composition, how to comic
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ACTUALLY i was going to ask you
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I want to learn the coding side of it too (and i'm prettt good at learning things from scratch when there's a necessityc
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I know i shouldn't overload myself but also, i'm impatient
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depends on what kind of game you want to make first tbh
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I'm already actively learning japanese and chinese and going through codeacademy (which i know isn't actually effective at teaching you how to program but i'm using it as a stepping stone)
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for all rounder stuff you probably want to try gamemaker studio
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I was thinking actually, i wanted to make a mmx game. Because of course.
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hmm okay so you want to make a platformer?
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O:
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though really you could make anything you wanted if its that vague
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if you want to make a VN i use the ren'py engine (which uses python)
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No, actually. I wanted to make a game based more off cm, but my real intention is to make it plot heavy and less gameplay because I NEED WORLDBUILDING
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oh i see
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Vn maybe. Was thinking more turn based rpg because that's what cm was in the first place
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you still have rpg maker
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so you can use that as a base
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Yeah, i was thinking about that!
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if you want to lean more heavily on visual novel coding there's someone who's made a battle engine that incorporates turn based battles for ren'py
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God all the assets i'd have to make though 
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YEAH THEMS THE BREAKS
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either learn to love spriting or learn to love drawing ten billion expressions/backgrounds/etc
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Would probably spend like 5 years just making assets
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on the plus side, once you've sprited a lot of things, you'll definitely get better at it LOL
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Pukes blood
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LMAO
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if you need help with assets i can help
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I mean i've done twewy, ace attorney, 999 and a tiiiny bit of pokemon style spriting
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I have... some.... experience...
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I'm mostly concerned about dev time haha
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Because lord knows i do not have the attention span to work on one project for more than a year at most
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Then again i might because it's mmx. I must
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it depends on how custom you want to get
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i only made directional sprites for mine and i left the rest up to basic assets
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Ruka, when you make your games, do you lay out the plot first and determine all the events that will happen?
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i have a general idea of what will be happening in the game, yes
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if i was doing something that required the player to move through different areas and environments, i would think about that first
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Ideally i'd like to go full throttle but i also understand i have a tendency to take on too much at once and burn out fast
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you want to make things a checklist if you have that kind of tendency to burn out
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I was thinking about a small game that was like, the hunters taking on a mission at giga city again
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Like. small. SMALL. mission
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you want to plan out like. big plot points ideally but you leave the rest kind of vague so you have wiggle room, thats usually how i do it
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it also helps if you decide what's going to happen at the end first
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because then you don't accidentally end up writing yourself into a corner and be like "Well fuck idk what happens now lol"
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Hm. Makes sense. Kinda like comicking then
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whether you do the scripting first or you do assets then scripting is up to you really
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I really don't want this to be a huge endeavor so it should be like.. 2 hours gameplay at most (that's small right)
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2 hours is p. small
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It might be better to script first because then i'll be focusing on what's important (learning wise)
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Knowing me i'd make the fun assets in my spare time anyway
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yeah then play around w/ the engine and such, learn how events work and all that
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rpg maker is pretty instructive
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and there's also heaps of resources
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Honestly i want to focus on worldbuilding too, so the plot will probably have something to do with a reploid who goes mav out of desperation
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Has anyone ever thought to make a game that tutorials gamemaker. I bet someone has
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do you want to have the action specifically conveyed through like
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in game cutscenes (if you're using rpg maker that is)
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or like, actual CGs
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Mix, probably
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Might as well flex my art skills
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HAHA yeah fair i'm using a mix for mine
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but yeah, like. just an extra thing to consider when you're putting a script together
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I guess i should limit my setting to central tower for my own ease
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since you can make sprite cutscenes with autorun events
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Cg cutscenes would force me to learn how to compose drawings too
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Btw which rpgmaker should i get?
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i have vx ace
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O:
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they usually drop the price for specials
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Specials? Like holiday deals and stuff?
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yeah usually you'll see it drop really low on steam sales and such
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i picked mine up for like
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7 dollars?
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it's 70% off/20.99 on humble store now though
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Ooo. Maybe i'll wait till the summer sales then. I think i'll be spending some time hammering out plot details
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Might ask someone to help me out on the plot so
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(Btw, if you need help for like your mn9 game i am totally willing to help even if it's just for art?? Putting that out there)
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im genuinely flattered you'd like to help on my weird project
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if you feel like getting some practice in with CGs i might ask you haha
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Yus i do
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LIKE I'LL LEND A HAND TO ANY OF UR MEGAMAN RELATED GAMES (MN9 COUNTS)
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I THINK MN9'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S TANGENTIALLY RELATED RIGHT NOW
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i might do smaller rpgs later but i really want to get through this one
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but yeah it sounds like a good idea to go through plot stuff and get it all nicely planned out before you pick up the engine
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I want to see it be a thing too
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The mighty numbers deserve so much more 
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I should go ahead and put rpgmaker on my wishlist so i can pick it up when it goes on sale
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/AGGRESSIVELY MAKES FANGAMES TO FILL THE VOIDS CAPCOM AND INAFUNE LEFT
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if capcom wont give good content we'll just have to MAKE the content
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Even if it takes us a million years to finish... we will do it....
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better than 4 million dollars inafune
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Fkfgllgldlkf THIS IS TRUE
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Ugh but now that i think about it what am i going to do about sound?? /dies
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And music
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im just straight up ripping from the mn9 soundtrack tbh
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inafune doesnt care, i dont care either
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rpg maker has a library of default/stock sounds and theres also sites like this
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I was thinking about that, just wondering if it might sound weird to rip cm's sounds but 8-bit game
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I can't really imagine central tower's theme in a retro style game..
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Groans, i should try to sleep
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well it depends on whether you wanna go deliberately retro or not
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retro feel in rpg maker is dependent on art style more than anything else