فك يو
[more politics shitposting I'm sorry] I mean let's not pretend that the pilgrims and the westward-bound pioneers weren't also illegal immigrants
brave vesperia
LMFAO
brave vesperia
FOR REAL THOUGH
فك يو
maybe today's illegals are just discovering the new world
mango diequiri
You're expecting people to know shit about history
mango diequiri
and/or logic
brave vesperia
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also the notion of "taking back this country" white people??? native americans were here first
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LMAOOOO THE BEAR
☆ oracle
The US is just a long line of older immigrants shitting on newer ones, tbh
فك يو
what is that flying yellow thing in the background
アタシ♔再生産
my uncle once tried to argue to me that white people deserved the land because they were strong enough to take it :')
فك يو
that a very fabulous plane or
فك يو
did you tell him "okay then undocumented immigrants must deserve the land because they were resourceful enough to sneak in"
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
looks like a shittily drawn seaplane
アタシ♔再生産
I was like 9 years old
فك يو
oh damn
アタシ♔再生産
I was very mad in the back seat and then shut up
dick judgement
ok but how many white ppl died in the winter
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in new england
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have u seen... what the sun does to their skin ASLDKFJ NO IM
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IM BEING MEAN but y i k e s 
that's a terrifying thing to hear as a child
that's a terrifying thing to hear as a child
Flower bambi🌸
lmao we weren't stronger we just brought all our diseases with us to a population who'd never been exposed to them
アタシ♔再生産
yeppp
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and let's not forget the biological warfare
mango diequiri
Well I mean didn't they literally have plague blankets or some shit
mango diequiri
It wasn't just bringing it was deliberate too
→ yard sard
good ol' smallpox blankets
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
speaking as a lily white new englander: yes
アタシ♔再生産
and one of my high school teachers tried to deny those were ever a thing... god
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
we are weak and should literally not have survived the winter much less any semblance of sunlight
Flower bambi🌸
Once the Native Americans got like... guns and horses they were a forced to be reckoned with too.
Flower bambi🌸
But by that time it was too late.
فك يو
I don't think I ever learned about smallpox blankets in school, and I went to some really liberal, fair-minded schools
فك يو
I had to learn about them from a computer game 
アタシ♔再生産
and even if they tried to take on European cultural values (which they shouldn't have had the need to do in the first place) they still got forced off their land
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lmao I could be remembering this wrong but I feel like I was taught that it was unintentional
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like we gave them blankets and supplies and WHOOPS, SMALLPOX???
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TEEHEEHEE?
فك يو
in at least some cases it was used as intentional biological warfare
Flower bambi🌸
iirc it was initially unintentional until they realized that the natives were dying from the spread of smallpox
Flower bambi🌸
and then assholes started infecting them intentionally
فك يو
I'm sure not every time and I'm sure we picked up diseases from them too; stuff like that is just inevitable in cases like that
فك يو
but
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we for sure caught on :T
Kira🌵
Syphilis is a New World export, for one.
Kira🌵
(but almost all of the disease transmission went the other way -- a lot of our big pandemic killers are zoonoses and the New World was low on domesticated animals. Llamas, guinea pigs and dogs.)
Flower bambi🌸
yeah, it looks like they mostly had hereditary disease and not the infectious kind
Kira🌵
Parasite infection was much more common than bacterial and viral illness, from what I know.
Kira🌵
... but yeah, some of it was definitely intentional, but a lot of horrifying damage was done before the intentional plague warfare.
brave vesperia
so i read a book about the colonization of the americas and it essentially said that after the first few white settlers spread all those diseases, by the time the first huge wave came
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north america was essentially like, a post-apocalyptic landscape for the natives because entire tribes and towns had just been completely wiped out
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so of course europeans had a comparatively easy time