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@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:02 PM

Overwatch League: The Path to Glory

Since everyone else is replurking Sombra let me talk about something else that excites me: ACTUAL FUCKING STRUCTURE.

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:03 PM

So the biggest problem with competitive Overwatch right now is that it started in a manner which was not run by Blizzard.

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:03 PM

It kind of started on its own during the beta, and morphed into its own entity.

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:03 PM

An entity that brushed back against the game's own structure in some ways, and tried to dictate certain elements of the game.

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:04 PM

I've gotten the sense Blizzard has tried to play nice with it to some degree up until now but has finally just gone

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:04 PM

"you know what, fuck it, we're going to take control here"

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:04 PM

to which I say

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:04 PM

fucking good

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:05 PM

(As for Sombra, she looks great, but I do worry slightly at adding another Offense character at this point in the game's life cycle.)

@artoni

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:06 PM

she's confirmed offense?

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:06 PM

She is indeed

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@jchaos

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:06 PM

Insert offensive joke here?

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:06 PM

pft

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:07 PM

AND she looks to be a pretty technical character so prepare for a mass wave of terrible Sombras for months until people figure out how to play her

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:07 PM

It took like four months for Ana's place in the meta to suss itself out

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:07 PM

SHE LOOKS GREAT

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:07 PM

but I am afraid

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:09 PM

I think, realistically speaking, she's going to end up competing with tracer for meta space

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:10 PM

since both of them have a similar "get in, get out" pattern and most of their tools facilitate that

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:10 PM

You're not wrong, but much like "MAN THREE SNIPERS SEEMS LIKE A GREAT IDEA" I can't wait for mostly-flanker teams that people think will work for some reason

@Vehrec

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:10 PM

so who will use the teleporters to get in, and who will use them to get out?

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:12 PM

I can see some AWESOME use for her, but Overwatch's playerbase is bad enough about abusing Offense heroes the wrong way, it'll be a minute for her to work out her place in things :'D

@UltraDude

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:12 PM

where's my flamethrower i need to spy check

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:13 PM

She can HACK FIRST AID KITS to make them useless to the enemy

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:13 PM

that'

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:14 PM

s

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:14 PM

kinda rad

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:14 PM

I want to see how long her group stun is for, because I think that'll be what really is what will end up being the push

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:14 PM

Yeah, it's ... akin to Reinhardt, Mei, and Zarya's ults in that sense.

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:14 PM

because if it's in a place where it's more disruption than her being able to clean up a whole team I think she might edge Tracer out in terms of bringing more utility/wombo to a team

@artoni

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:15 PM

/nod

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:15 PM

And those three I mentioned are GOOD picks in current meta with just their ultimates to start with.

@artoni

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:15 PM

she def seems to be a get in debuff sort

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:15 PM

So in that sense, it does make sense that one Offense character gets a stun like that

@quinn2win

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:15 PM

This may tilt the tank meta a bit

@quinn2win

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:15 PM

because her ult is a hard Reinhardt counter

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:15 PM

Her ability is hard for Reinhardt to counter

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:16 PM

I have to think the cooldown on Hack has to be considerable

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:16 PM

Because there's not much to stop her from going invisible > slipping behind the backline > disabling Reinhardt

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:16 PM

actually

@artoni

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:16 PM

what's the cooldown on McCree's flashbang?

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:16 PM

her EMP blast is closer to a hard lucio counter

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:17 PM

Oooooh

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:17 PM

Zenyatta, too

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:17 PM

since it destroys barriers

@artoni

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:17 PM

...oooooh

@artoni

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:17 PM

GOODBYE TRANSENDENCE

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:17 PM

If it disables abilities

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:17 PM

And we see HACK disabling an ultimate

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:17 PM

it destroys barriers, shields, and Hacks everyone caught in it

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:17 PM

That may actually finally break the Lucio meta to some degree

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:17 PM

which

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:17 PM

I'm gonna be honest

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:17 PM

to be done

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:17 PM

I love Lucio

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:17 PM

But

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:17 PM

Lucio's ult is specifically designated as a Barrier, health-wise

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:18 PM

I don't love every viable competitive comp revolving around Lucio

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:18 PM

so Sombra's ult nullifies his ult

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:18 PM

And it's been that way since the game's inception

@quinn2win

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:18 PM

with Sombras disabling Reinhardt's shields everywhere

@quinn2win

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:18 PM

it's time for D.Va to rise again

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:18 PM

She could disable Defense Matrix just as well nthough

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:18 PM

hack on Defense Matrix is a pretty strong shutdown

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:19 PM

It's going to be interesting to see how it functions in play

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:19 PM

I'm actually looking at here ult in a different waay than Prof is, I think?

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:19 PM

because it says it disables 'Shields and Barriers'

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:19 PM

Because I'm sure there's a hitch in there.

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:20 PM

which are both different types of health, as well as having stuff like Reinhardt's shield

@quinn2win

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:20 PM

I'll defer to Sven, because I actually haven't touched OW in months

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:20 PM

It says it hacks the enemies, and the little video on her profile page shows it disabling McCree and a Torbjorn turret too

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:21 PM

It stops the turret, stops Deadeye, and stops Reinhardt's shield all at the same time

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:21 PM

So it's just Hack on an AOE, instant scale

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:21 PM

Well

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:21 PM

the other thing I think, that's not shown in the profile might be

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:21 PM

there are certain characters that use Shields as Health

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:22 PM

and I'm thinking this fucks them RIGHT up

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:22 PM

as if Symmetra weren't marginalized enough as it was :'D

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:22 PM

Symmetra and Zarya

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:22 PM

And Zenny

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:22 PM

The thing with Hack is that it takes some time to initiate.

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:22 PM

Zarya's hit harder by the ult's purpose than Reinhardt is

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:22 PM

Basically if she Hacks you it's your own fault

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:23 PM

since it turns her EXTREMELY squishy AND removes your panic-button shield

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:23 PM

The ultimate is another matter, but plenty of ultimates will instafuck you

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:23 PM

Reinhardt at least has Armor

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:23 PM

so even if he can't use his barrier

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:23 PM

you still gotta whittle him down

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:24 PM

depending on how long the hack effect is for, he might be able to recover quickly

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:24 PM

Stream with Sombra in play

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:24 PM

Huh. Hack is her secondary fire.

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:25 PM

looks like 6 second cooldowns on teleport and stealth

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:30 PM

A couple new maps coming to PTR soon

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:30 PM

new game mode?

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:30 PM

Antarctica

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:31 PM

Sombra's hack on health packs makes them recharge SUPER fast when you pick the mup

@svensational

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:32 PM

so yeah she sounds very Utility Offense

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:32 PM

The's a "What's new" Overwatch presentation in a couple hours. I have the Virtual Ticket so I'll probably be babling

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:34 PM

60 round clip on her SMG, it has a spread but not quite as wide as S76

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:35 PM

Seems like her gun is somewhere between S76 and Tracer

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:36 PM

Sombra stealthed is completely invisible unless she's right on top of you, BUT

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:36 PM

Recon Visor and Sonic Arrow still work on her

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:38 PM

man

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:38 PM

I love her teleport

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:38 PM

You can chuck it as far as you can chuck Ana's grenade and that's a LONG WAY

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:43 PM

Yep, she is a HARD counter to Lucio and Zenyatta, noted by the dev in the stream I linked

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:45 PM

You can hack MULTIPLE health packs

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:45 PM

The hacks on them last a minute

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:46 PM

and your ability cools down every six seconds

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:46 PM

so you can basically salt the field to disable health packs for the enemy

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:47 PM

D. Va's Defense Matrix can eat her teleporter.

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:48 PM

Right now, Hack range is about 9-10 meters

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:48 PM

She's also a pretty good Tracer counter, if you can survive the initial burst first and Hack her... no blink, no recall

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:54 PM

her SMG seems pretty stout

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:55 PM

"Can you deflect the teleporter with Genji"
"...I'm pretty sure, yes, but I don't recall what happens."

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 7:56 PM

You can't salt the health packs with hacks during defense set up

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 8:19 PM

Here's a fucked up thought:

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 8:19 PM

a hacked Zenyatta can't heal, and is the only healer who can get utterly nullified by Sombra

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 8:20 PM

Hacked Mercy can't escape.

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 8:21 PM

Hacked Lucio can't change his song.

@mugennoken

Fri, Nov 4, 2016 8:23 PM

I'm not sure if the hack disables his AOE though, or else she almost completely punts him out of the meta

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