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[RevieWBY] [Spoilers, duh] Let's start with Volume 1 and use Proper Capitalization since we're being official.
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I know certain people are going to disagree with me but I feel the pacing of the first Volume was very spot on. Not a lot of time was wasted. It felt like every second was spent with a purpose. Yes the cast
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being thrust off into this world of fighting super mega death monsters at only seventeen years of age is pretty out there but each character has a reason for their combat backgrounds at least in the main four
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Now to talk about the elephant in the room: Jaune Arc.
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They desperately need someone to call him out.
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He sneaks into the academy by falsifying documents (iirc it's been hours) but this is completely ignored of any repercussions because he's being bullied.
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Also, really hate Cardin. I'm just tired of the playground bully trope. It's old.
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Yeah he somehow stumbled upon fake transcripts.
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And to introduce a character solely for that purpose? Might I point you, RWBY writers, to Flash Thompson?
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Flash served as nothing but a school bully for Peter but grew as a character over time. Not once throughout the three volumes have I seen any development with Cardin or his group and that's annoying because
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CRDL is still a team. It's practically the Gangrene Gang except unfunny.
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Or is it CDRL?
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I forget because I don't care.
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don't expect anything out of actual Cardboard Cutout Cardin Winchester
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CRDL Cardinal
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And yes, Jaune suffering precisely zero consequence throughout the entire show is by far my biggest beef with his character.
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Moving right along, I already said this before but Pyrrha Nikos harkens back to my reminiscing of Sazh Katzroy. Awesomely written characters hampered by the writing.
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I really do just dislike the writing surrounding him and his "development" over the seasons, which I entirely blame on the people involved, but it's easier for me to just say "GET REKT JAUNE".
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If that makes-- okay let me rephrase.
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Awesomely envisioned characters hampered by the writing.
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Jaune gets away with so much and kind of becomes a black hole of a character iirc but i am not an expert in rwby so
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Look I know this is an aspect some characters have pre-development but he whines way, way too much.
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And no, little spots of TEAMWORK do not help the fact that you are selfish, Jaune.
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Skipping a ton to mention this but some of the comedy of this show makes me laugh for dumb reasons. Like JNPR having a mid-combat argument.
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JNPR's development in general is weird because that entire team was not even supposed to be second string during the initial writing. They were like... I think they said "8th string" or something like that.
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I feel like JNPR's dynamic could work so much better if the writing wasn't subpar.
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oh god that moment. so much second-hand embarrassment for JNPR.
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You have a solid foursome.
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"I think they mean we're all waiting, Jaune..." /pan to the arena audience
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And since we're discussing it. Nora Valkyrie is probably the personification of every one of my exs and this is not a bad thing.
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"Nora. Just. Go hit them with the hammer."
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(RWBY) We'll Break His Legs!
What makes this scene is the shimmer. The childlike glee of outright assault.
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I don't know if Nora's VA is well known/big name, but I feel like she nailed the part.
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I dunno Cardin existing means we get to see Velvet being bullied so.. :3
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Same with... actually a lot of the voice actors and actresses.
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ashleywr: savage
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Cardin "Unfortunately Still Two Working Legs" Winchester
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TBH I'm pretttty sure Coco probably would break his legs if he touched Velvet.
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Also, is this show lacking in punishments for bad decisions or is it just me?
cidrielf
No it really is.
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I'm also either perceptive or I saw Blake being a Faunus from a mile away.
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everyone saw it.
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same re: Penny being a Robot.
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RT's writing is Not Subtle.
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I noticed the bow moving for Blake and Penny's dialogue is obvious.
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the bow actually twitches once very obviously eaaarly on.
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When Yang and Blake are hanging around waiting for everyone else to, literally, drop in.
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I'm sorry RT
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Penny is absolutely adorable but come on
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Also, did we really need that heavy amount of angst this early in the show? RE: Blake and Weiss' fight.
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https://i.imgur.com/hkBOzjJ.gif
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Weiss was 110% in the wrong and I refuse to believe otherwise by the way.
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Oh wow that is... subtle.
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The second one I mean.
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Honestly I would have liked this kind of fight to come later. We've got a lot of characterization for Weiss (I guess) this early but not so much for Blake. Using a big angsty argument for character
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development right off the bat? A leap.
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Also, infinitely disappointed Sun isn't screaming 24/7 because isn't that Michael in a nutshell
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I'm done kind of differentiating between volumes now because it's hard to keep things straight so it's thought/word vomit from this point on.
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Let's actually jump on the biggest spoiler.
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Rooster Teeth Shoots Themselves In The Foot.
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"BREAKING NEWS: Hit show RWBY kills off the one character that I would be super pissed off to see go because of what the future held."
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Keyword: Future
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funnily enough Michael plays Sting in the Fairy Tale dub
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Serious?
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I guess they liked him in RWBY
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Honestly I have no issue with his voice acting.
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Speaking of though?
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Vic Mignogna made me do a double take and start seething. Not because of Vic but because... real talk?
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This is the PERFECT show to get new blood voice actors/actresses in.
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Qrow is a fine character to get someone new to voice.
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But you spend the money on a higher profile voice actor... why?
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Also if Roman is actually dead I'm gonna be sad just because he had the kind of swagger to him that's rare to see in villains most of the time.
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I just wish he hadn't been foiled so easily so many times.
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Also, this is a super big drama topic to touch so I won't go deep into it but having Jessica Nigri voice the sultry dressing/sounding main baddie? Really?
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I mean do what you want but that just sounds like you're inviting trolls.
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On a note on top of that, I think Cinder is voiced very well and the character is written beautifully later on.
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Being one of the only characters who knows what the hell she's doing helps.
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Also, can we just ignore Adam Taurus' existence?
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Like I'm not dissing writing a character as a creep.
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I can't keep up with this but Vic actually ASKED to work with RT.
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From a writing standpoint, there is nothing wrong with touching iffy material. What is wrong is using it just to go "WE REALLY WANT YOU TO HATE THIS GUY"
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It was a conference call to some con he was at in Malaysia that the head guys were phoning in for some panel or w/e and he got on the line like
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"hey, I love your stuff, we should do something soon" and Miles was like "oh!... oh, yeah! sure!!"
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Hmm, that does change things around a bit. Still think they should've left the role to lesser known voice actors/actresses to start a career but it's fine I guess.
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I'm not super invested in Qrow.
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No one should be
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I hate that I have a character that basically has to admire the tired cynical jerk drunk uncle stereotype
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again: no consequences!!
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None.
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"Qrow, you were drunk."
"He's always drunk!"
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yes he is and NO ONE CARES.
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That got a small snicker out of me but once I realized how lampshade-y it was I just ugh'd.
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also he's a famous teacher. for a pre-Beacon-age combat school.
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that means he's a "functional" alcoholic teaching 12~16 year olds.
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to fight.
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no problems with role models in THIS show, right?
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like jontron said once
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"SKY'S THE LIMIT WHEN YOU DON'T GIVE A SHIT"
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Like.. what do I even say anymore about this show?
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also about Cinder knowing what she's doing, can I share something really funny
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I feel like more development needs to go beyond Teams RWBY and JNPR because I'm actually curious.
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Go for it.
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Cinder's whole "must become the Fall Maiden" thing?
the WHOLE Maiden thing?
implemented between volumes 2 and 3.
as in. they had some vague idea of the concept of the four maidens, but no plot links.
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You mean RWBY has strong vibes of making shit up as they go?
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SAY IT AIN'T SO, PIP.
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SORRY NOT SORRY (and neither are they)
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I guess I'll wrap it up since it's hard to really say much about the show because I'm not the type to just whine and whine.
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but no seriously the fact that Cinder's side of things and her whole crew and their whole plan came together and she still (technically) "won" at the end, flies in the face of the writers flying by --
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6/10, maybe 7/10. If I ignore any of the glaring mark ups, the show can be a fun romp and I like a lot of the characters.
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--the seat of their goddamn pants for the entirety of it.
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Jessica Nigri tho, deserves props. her schedule was so booked they recorded all of her V3 lines.
all of them.
in one day, in two hours.
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I have nothing but respect for Nigri and do sincerely hope the drama is just brushed off by her.
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People will always find things to complain about and people will always complain about honeypotting.
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also: Roman was never supposed to have such a big role, but he was so popular with the fans that they gave him exceeding more screentime.
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I'd like Roman so much better if he was more Hamill Joker and less Romero Joker.
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He's got swagger but he keeps losing his cool way too frequently and keeps getting foiled way too much.
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You can't be a chessmaster when you can't hold any of your fucking pieces.
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he's nothing but a pawn~
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As a closing note because I have a few household things to do, there's two characters up in the air for me to make an account for.
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/chinhands
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Pyrrha is the biggest lean because She's The Hero RWBY Deserves And The One It Needs Right Now
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But intimidation revolves around a character like that and whether I could play them to their maximum.
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The second is actually probably a toss up and only really a "I'm too intimidated to play Pyrrha" supplement and I don't think that's fair.
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But knowing how I'll handle this I'll waffle for a hour or so then go screw it, think up some super amusing username, and make her.
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Also, real quick. Two big things that bug me.
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The anti-Weiss song because that is not part of Pyrrha's personality, and Jaune somehow being the only person who noticed her beyond her fame when you have an entire N and R in that team who did
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But I'll brb.
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(lie ren voice) : "THANK YOU!"
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that song is so OOC it hurts.
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and the fact that they imply the importance of Pyrrha to her other teammates but never, like, show them interacting really hurts credibility.
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Vol 3 has a song that's supposed to be from Sun's perspective, about Blake, and I'm just over here like
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I don't dislike all the shippy songs. "Boop" is cute as fuck even if the fandom is divided on whether to ship Ren and Nora like that (but I can see it either way)
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I forgot to talk about it
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Jaune and Pyrrha. This could have worked. I of all people could rewrite it to work.
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But you can't build a character up as a Strong, Independent X and then have them turn so weak just so the Nice Guy can comfort them
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But even then Jaune is still a douche
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I have seen Nice Guys work with Strong Females. You can make those tropes/cliches/whatever you want to call them work. But you do not ruin characterization. You strengthen it.
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The meek nice guy gets a backbone because of the support of his allies and love interest.
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I'm not praising Gainax/technically Trigger but look at TTGL.
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Simon's characterization was aced and he went from being a meek, nervous character to a complete wreck and then GAR.
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I sincerely do feel they could've been a good couple but Jaune never started pulling his own weight.
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Like let's look at Ruby for example. Her status as a leader, while faulty because everyone has flaws, is something she lives up to and even tries to get Jaune to live up to. Big shoes but she fills them.
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Jaune never does even with the abysmal "development" he gets.
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It harkens back to, once again, no consequences. You need to learn you're being a shit before you fix being a shit.
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And now with the only person attempting to call him out on his shit gone, he's going to get worse mark my words.
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OR they'll actually do solid writing and have him losing Pyrrha make him finally wake the fuck up. I doubt it and I hate them using best girl to springboard another character's development but I'm in this
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enough to want to see improvement.
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someone quoted a character named epsilon from rvb to me and it feels like it fits pyrrha's situation
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Note I'm tossing out there. If I do pick up Pyrrha, I'm probably going to pull her from Volume 3's finale. Just after being shot. Not quite dead, but just before she dies.
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I'm not so much sadistic as I am wanting to toy with the idea of that lingering thought always being in the back of her mind.
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oh god that quote is everywhere
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Also, for the sake of simplicity I'd have that be her last thought but still have Cinder having Maiden ganked her. I don't feel like toying around with something I know nothing about yet.
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Also, why is nobody really against the Fall Maiden deal besides Pyrrha? I think Qrow is at one point but come on...
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You'd think we'd have at least one person overtly against it.
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Which honestly might be Raven but we don't know yet.
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Raven is also a babe and I'm not ashamed to say it.
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It's also super hard to feel sorry for Ozpin.
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You have someone practically bashing into you THIS IS A BAD IDEA TAKE A MORE HANDS ON APPROACH STOP BEING AN IDIOT
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And you do nothing.
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This is the same person who is also about as subtle as a trainwreck.
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But honestly? I'd side with Ironwood to a degree.
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Sorry, Tony Stark*
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syngnomi is the closest i can make "sorry" in greek for a username right?
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I'm not going to but it was a consideration.
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I immediately went for pyrrhic and pyrrhicvictory but both are taken
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sacrificiallion is also one
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Ozpin is
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ehhh I don't even have words.
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So where do you play RWBYs?
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I mostly meme around, or play on friend's museboxes, and then obvs my two in games with casts.
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Which are Cinder and Yang I'm guessing? Where's Yang?
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Route 29 (soon to be Victory Road), the pokemon game
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Cinder's in , a smut game
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smut/plot, I should say
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I've got eyes on Tanagura. If gsai stays with Eirin, I'll probably follow next cycle with Reisen.
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but I see route is lacking in a certain character
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And this is a game that revolves around something that's been a mainstay hobby in my life for quite some time.
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jokes and teasing aside do the mods have a plurk?
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I want to see just how much freedom i have. I'm not going to deviate from Pyrrha's core attributes but the freedom of RP should allow me to deviate a bit from some of the less-than-stellar writing choices
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The game will be moving to another set of mods with new communities soon so you may be better off waiting to ask the current team.
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gotcha
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I mean , with the transition the mod duties have slowed down a lot so you may not get the answer you need before it transitions on the 30th
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this hobby is so much waiting (tears)
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ALSO we may have. Kind of. Enabled a Pyrrha already;; it isn't a sure thing and all but just a heads up I suppose.
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There IS a fourth wall event happening at the end of the month. With a poke prom.
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oh well if that's the case totally fine
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this is why i have runner ups
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Blake is our second to-be-enabled person (LOL)
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man does anyone else even stick out to me...
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sorry i like this show but it's not touhou levels of "i could play almost anyone"
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you're still up for memes and junk though yeah?
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of course!
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it's hard to get used to a hobby where you don't have 10,000 of the same character in the same environment
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it's good in some ways but in others you hit a brick wall. on the plus side, nobody seems to be being enabled in tanagura for reisen so fingers crossed
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you've got plenty of time to get your reading in for that game, ahah.
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(there's a lot)
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