Illegal activity? Men destroy rock formation in Gobl...
These assholes are all three Boy Scout leaders. That ass-covering saving lives BS at the end, totally belied by "we have altered Goblin Valley"

(((Cajsa)))

(((Cajsa)))
That rock formation was one of the goblins of Goblin Valley and was 20 million years old.

Fearyfox(Reyn)
And this is what happens when we say 'Boys will be Boys.' and let them do whatever they want.... O.o

тнσяη
uh its sexism to blame the entire gender

Canadian Tane
I hope these guys get the book thrown at them and they serve jail time. You don't knock over trees, you don't walk off the path and you certainly don't move huge boulders around. Dumbasses.

Thurina
even the Boy Scouts organization got on these guys. They have no one in their corner

тнσяη
certainly not the rest of our gender

Coyote Laughs


Coyote Laughs
Decrying the "boys will be boys" mentality isn't sexism against men. It's disgust that men are expected to be destructive, childish, and barely capable of shitting in a toilet.

Coyote Laughs
I mean, if you want to be treated as though you are less socialized than feral puppies....

Till
it's so hard to be a white man

Coyote Laughs
Pity none of those assholes got crushed by the rocks.

Gogo ♔
that rock would have fallen over eventually anyway...

Gogo ♔
if all it took was taht guy pushing it

Fearyfox(Reyn)
Exactly - I wasn't attacking men, just a societal behavior.

Dovelove
what dicks.

AvatarBizarre
Those jerks need a serious ass kicking.

AvatarBizarre
Gogo ♔
: The rock may have fallen over naturally in a few years, but that guy was straining to push it over. And vandalism of something that would have fallen over is still vandalism.

AvatarBizarre
If I went to Oregon Caves and broke a this piece of Stalagmite off, using the excuse that it would break off eventually anyway, it wouldn't fly with park officials. If I was caught, I'd be fined heavily.

Morgan ✨
^

AvatarBizarre
Boys will be boys is a cop out. It's not sexist, because face it, we've all heard it and most boys in their lifetimes have had it said about them.

AvatarBizarre
Broken window from a baseball thrown at it? Yeah, boys will be boys.

AvatarBizarre
Too bad home owner's insurance won't cover it but boys will be boys.

тнσяη
that's not a bit different than blaming all blacks because a few held up your local convenience store

тнσяη
but its ok because sexism against men doesnt exist

тнσяη
exactly like racism against blacks didn't exist

тнσяη
I refuse to accept responsiblity for what a few jerks who happened to be of my gender did

Till
When have men ever been oppressed in history? Right...

Coyote Laughs
... wait, objecting to the infantilization of men is equivalent to being racist?

Coyote Laughs
Thinking y'all can actually be adults and that saying otherwise is harmful is... keeping men down?

Coyote Laughs
Who fucking knew

тнσяη
judging any group based on the actions of a few is bigotry, yes, by definition.

Morgan ✨
But nobody said that. they said that using a broad excuse for misbehavior was fucked, not the gender the phrase is applied to.s

Till
Zero for reading comprehension.

Coyote Laughs
... you are so completely failing to understand what's being said in this plurk to the point that I have to ask if you are doing it deliberately

тнσяη
using a broad excuse for misbehavior is indeed wrong, and I see it throughout this plurk. Using the actions of a few, and the undisputible shoddy record of men historically to condem men today is also wrong.

Morgan ✨
but nobody did that

Coyote Laughs


Morgan ✨
up

Coyote Laughs
I'm going to say this one more time: criticism of "boys will be boys" as a cultural norm that infantilizes men and reduces them to badly behaved children is not oppressive generalizations about a gender.

Coyote Laughs
It is critique of a cultural norm that reduces men to barely competent buffoonery at best. Get it?

isle
I read my timeline backwards in teh morning, and I just commented almost exactly what you waid in the plurk title, on someone else's plurk about this.

isle
Coyote Laughs
: BUFFOONERY and your comments are perfect as well. I could swear and call them nasty names, but that would also just repeat natural reactions from most rational people.

Fearyfox(Reyn)
The sad thing is, initially I missed the bit about them being scout leaders. Seriously, these 'men' are in charge of teaching boys to be pillars of society?

isle
and saying 'it would just tip over eventually' is like breaking the windows of an empty house because it will eventually fall in. maybe true, but no reason to to it other than the thrill of destruction, that

isle
illusion of power over something inanimate.

isle
Plus, rock pushing over is so penis.

isle
and if it was pushed over by women, it would be to prove that they also penis.

AvatarBizarre
<--- look at profile. Seriously, I used to hear "Boys will be boys" all the time growing up when me and my friends would do stupid crap. We'd be grounded, but it was always said.

AvatarBizarre
It is very infantile to destroy something of beauty for the sake of proving your strength or manhood. And that is exactly what those guys were doing: Proving their manhood.

AvatarBizarre
Of course it's backfiring, and I hope the Boyscouts organization comes down hard on them. I also hope that the law comes down hard on them.

AvatarBizarre
Frankly, if you're going to do stupid crap like that, don't post it to Youtube. It's almost like people never learn when others do the same thing and end up in heaps of trouble when powers that be see...

AvatarBizarre
what their employees or whatever have posted to Youtube.

isle
I think most of the people who post their dumb actions to youtube are really not that internet clever. They have no bloody idea of the nature of this beast, in these times.

AvatarBizarre
isle
: Sad thing is I live in Siilcon Valley, the heart of the Internet culture, and there are people here who have zero clue about how things work.

AvatarBizarre
I was going to a jobs support group to help with other half's job search, and the day the instructor talked about Internet presence, most of the people in that room were acting clueless.

AvatarBizarre
The instructor said in the ten years he's been giving these classes, I am the only person who ever said they had a blog. There were people in that room who were asking "what's a blog?"

AvatarBizarre
Goldie Hawn said fifteen years ago: "getting something off the Internet is like trying to find a fart in a jacuzzi". How right she is.

isle
AvatarBizarre
: preach. I teach social media management to small business in rural areas lol. I am that instructor. The one time I had an attendee with a clue, she was trolling for web design jobs. (bitch)

isle
and I say (bitch) because that was another one of my jobs.

AvatarBizarre
isle
: I was taking the class along with Other Half, who was the unemployed one. It was interesting to see the cross section of completely clueless people there.

AvatarBizarre
My thought going away from every class session was, "Geez, no wonder these people can't get jobs."