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poll true crime likely all the CWs that this topic will entail within but:

what's that case that you heard of years ago and has always haunted you, even if you know it's unlikely to be solved?
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mine's the disappearance of Trenton Duckett and the later death of his mother after Nancy Grace badgered her about it on air
6LilacMimeLions
oh, nancy grace 🙃
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I had babies his age (he was only 24 months and I had a AMAB kid his age so it tore me apart)
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I have gone back and read everything I can find that possibly may have been found since her death but
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nothing has
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6LilacMimeLions : geez, for some reason I thought she lost her career after this incident and I just looked it up and she totally, totally did not
6LilacMimeLions
nope, still going strong and making everything Worse
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extemely not
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just because I don't watch that kind of crap I guess, I wasn't aware
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so sensationalist
6LilacMimeLions
iirc she very classily doubled down after the mom killed herself, didn't she?
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yes
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she said there was no way it was her fault and obviously it was Melinda's own guilty conscience
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but now that it's past Trenton's 18th birthday the settlement bond that was set up for the suit has passed to the center for missing and exploited children
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it was $200k when it was set up, don't know how much it ended up being when it matured
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and that
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is a pittance
6LilacMimeLions
yeah
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drop in the fukcing bucket
6LilacMimeLions
i'm sure cnn really felt that horrific scolding
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(she's on cnn, right?)
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(i remember that being one of my earlier "welp" moments on cnn's slide)
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last update on wiki is an Oxygen network show that began in 2019
6LilacMimeLions
[googling] okay yeah she was cnn at the time
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oh, she hosts Crime Feed on Discovery/Max it says on google
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so whoop-dee-doo
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now I'm mad, I thought she'd been out of TV for 20 years
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the streaming/podcast/youtube true crime audience is huge even if she's not on a main channel anymore
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the other story that haunts me, but nothing is there to be discovered on top of what unfolded the day it unfolded, is the Bath School Bombing
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actually learning about it is one of the things that made me go "why the fuck am I a libertarian??"
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this guy murdered a hundred people because he didn't think his farm taxes should pay for kids to fucking learn
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like, foundations of society shit
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OH THAT ONE
6LilacMimeLions
yeah
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yeah. the whole reason you can't go buy a case a dynamite
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that's how they responded to a school being attacked back then
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back when murdering a bunch of kids would actually shock the public conscience into action
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yeahh
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I learned about it literally like 2 months before Sandy Hook happened and that's what shook me out of being a 2A believer
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I was fully expecting consequences
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I mean, when Sandy Hook happened. it shook me out of it
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I was falling out of my beliefs fast, that was Dec 2012 and I lef the cult in Mar 2013
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interesting
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I actually had not remembered that all happened so close together
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well, not that fast. Obama's visit to El Salvador was in March 2011 an d that's when I quit listening to Glenn (he went on this rant about how the US had done the right thing intervening in El Salvador in the 70s and I turned it off and never listened again)
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anyway yeah, off-topic now
Dead Quixote
does the case have to be unsolved because there's a case that's Very Much Solved that I think about all the time because the victim died on my birthday AND in my town (several years before I was born)
6LilacMimeLions
as far as true crime goes, it's not any one particular unsolved case that haunts me
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Dead Quixote : nope, just haunting
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it's the zillion missing sex workers/unidentified women's bodies
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mm yeah
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and you know the cops were just like and went back to hassling brown people
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I saw a documentary, I think netflix, where they were able to reconstruct a woman's facial features from her dna, which I didn't even realize was possible these days
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like, a witness LED THE FUCKING COPS TO THE GREEN RIVER KILLER'S HOUSE
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and they identified her as a woman who had gone missing after joining a cult in like Montana and then apparently hitchihked
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and when he was like "gosh officer i have no idea, i sure hope she turns up" they were like "ok thank you have a nice day"
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but they had found the body in I think yellowstone in the 60s
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6LilacMimeLions : that's horrific
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dna reconstructions are iffy, but they can add things like a definite eye color to more traditional reconstructions
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just general violence and dehumanization against women too, like the various cases of men who just decide to kidnap a woman (or his own daughter, gross Josef Fritzl) and keep her in the basement for his own funsies
Dead Quixote
in that case (cw: for torture, SA, child abuse) I'll never be the same after I learned about what happened to Sylvia Likens
6LilacMimeLions
anytime a dude gets a lighter sentence from the "she cheated on me and i was mad" defense
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Dead Quixote : I looked it up. that is truly horrible. the things some people do when their only focus is money ☹️
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I just remembered another one
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it is a truly bizarre case, and it looks like there's simply no update on wiki since the story was pretty new in 2004. but it's the story of the Collingswood boys, who were foster children of Raymond and Vanessa Jackson
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basically the foster parents had taken in a whole family of 7 children, but they were starving the sons and feeding the girls well
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they took the kids to a Pentecostal church 3 times a week but nobody did anything until a neighbor of the Jacksons found the 19yo digging in their trash for food
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I remember really being horrified because one of the news stories mentioned their only source of income other than the foster money from the state was Primerica
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(Primerica is a MLM we had tried to sell when our own kids were real little)
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mlms tend to hit religious communities pretty hard
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it's basically affinity fraud by proxy
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yeah. I also sold Usborne and I had good friends in my church who sold Pampered Chef and things
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usborne and pampered chef are least just overpriced
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but you do get decent books and decent cookware
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the thing with usborne is... the books are really good! some of the best on the market! and...
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the company undercuts its own distributors with direct sales
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so wtf is the point of distributors
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representatives
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whatever
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(SEVERE mental health/police cruelty/sui tw) the Isaiah Trammell case showed up for me just yesterday and I'm going to be feeling constant discomfort and rage for the rest of my life when thinking about it. the video I watched contained the police footage, body cam and precinct, and thankfully every single comment was condemning the "professionals" involved
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it made me feel physically ill, which very very few things do
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I consume this type of content constantly without batting an eye and this fully shook me
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the video is from the EXPLORE WITH US channel on YouTube, which used to piss me off now and again with how they talked about suspects and mental health a few years ago. but now they have a larger team of qualified analysts and they're always sure to be more respectful of potential diagnoses now
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everything from 2024 onward has been good and very in depth analysis, but definitely cw needed, and a lot of it deals with kids, so be careful
Dead Quixote
EXPLORE WITH US has really stepped up in quality yeah
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ᴇɴᴛᴇɪₒ : oh, what a terrible injustice. I loathe that this sort of thing happens bc cops get on a power trip
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yep. this is what defunding the cops is about. those bloated resources should be used on people who can help people like Isaiah.
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