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[PSA Cont...] This space for the on-going LA (and other cities) Protests and up-coming action items for June 14th
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replurk allowed - old plurk here
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Know Your Rights:
- Amendments To Know About For Recent Events:
1st Amendment - Free Speech, Right to Protest, etc
3rd Amendment - Quartering of Soldiers
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if you have other links for references, info, or resources, please also feel free to share
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thanks!
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I actually sent the account a PP right before this was made about this but I'd love it if anyone who knows resources to share for those who are disabled who can't physically attend protests this Saturday! such as organizations they could phone bank with, make signs for, fill out postcards for, etc
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or just like... whatever needs done, idek what kind of things could be asked for
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i think there's a google spreadsheet doc somewhere with things like that
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one sec
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idk who is organizing it off-hand but i clicked it once and it's just been there for me, so sharing it
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exactly the kind of thing I was looking for, thanks!
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credit to those people who update it regularly, i know not whomst but very appreciated
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oh shoot, nothing in my part of Ohio at all. hm.
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well, I mean as far as the specific protests this Saturday
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if you click the link for the protest up top, you can probably search for a local area and reach out to the organizers
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that would be my best suggestion
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nodnod
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other things to do: add to the watch count of the Pope over Trump's parade, lol
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oh, yes! I forgot about that
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once again, a reminder: the Insurrection Act was NOT invoked for the LA Protests
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it was talked about, but no official invocation of the Act has occured
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so military force is SUPER illegally in CA right now
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Newsom just submitted an emergency motion to block Trump’s illegal deployment of Marines and National Guard in Los Angeles.
Shan-aconda
Also if you are going to protests, turn location data off on your phone, turn biometrics off and set it to a 4+ digit number code, have a phone number you can call incase of arrest written on your arm in sharpie, and remember the only words you say are lawyer.

Also milk and a face bag in your bag, even if they are listed as protests, the proud boys have -
Shan-aconda
have been dressing as protesters to start shit and get the left blamed
Shan-aconda
so face covering, milk, and a first aid kit
CRUSTACEAN KING
GOOD PLURK OP
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there's been black umbrellas of anarchists showing up, as well. so be mindful if you see them to get away from what they may be up to
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just because that is probably where PD will go hard
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i should note: there's no proof they are ACTUAL anarchists and not Proud Boys using known symbols, so either way,
skulltaffy 💀
slight correction: don't use milk for teargas, use water. milk will give you bacterial infections.
Exacerangutan
...is that an issue with milk that's properly sterilized and stored? (thinking) I know raw milk is a problem even for ingestion, but milk causing bacterial infections is new to me.
Shan-aconda
Yes Milk is for pepper spray, and better a bacterial infection than blind anything with oil needs milk, water will make make pepper spray worse
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might be best to get that shelf-stable milk?
Shan-aconda
Raw milk would be a problem, but pasteurized half gallon from safeway isn't going to be a issue.
skulltaffy 💀
additionally, to repost from bluesky (and it's where i'll leave this as i don't want to get wildly off-topic): prep a bottle of isotonic saline if you have time
Exacerangutan
i mean probably don't pour milk straight in your eyes and just leave it at that, but i'm not finding anything immediately on health risks of facial contact with milk, so if there's documentation there it would be very helpful
skulltaffy 💀
trying to chase up something on it is leading me nowhere, so the infection part might be hearsay i got mixed in along the way, so that's on me.
skulltaffy 💀
but i do still distinctly know you don't want to use milk for tear gas. it's great for pepper spray! but plain water is better for the gas.
Exacerangutan
but yeah clarity on the different hazards (e.g. pepper spray vs. other tear gases) may also help
Exacerangutan
there are a bunch of ways to deploy chemical irritants that all get grouped into "tear gas" and they're gonna have different effective treatments
skulltaffy 💀
yeah, that's a better way to put it
Exacerangutan
IDK what's commonly used by US riot police, but if someone has that information, that would also be really good to have
RUDE BUSTER
^ how hong kongers put out tear gas grenades using traffic cones and water
StupidSexyV⚠der
because there are different "tear gases", sterile water is recommended but if you DO use milk, flush with sterile water after
StupidSexyV⚠der
a covid type plastic face shield is great. wear a helmet over it to protect your head
Exacerangutan
^ yeah milk wash -> water wash makes sense, if you're treating something that's best washed with a colloidal like milk
skulltaffy 💀
-though right as i say that i did finally track down part of the infection thing. namely, milk that's been in your pocket all day might not necessarily be sterile, especially in summer temps. shelf-stable might have better luck, i'm not a doctor or someone who studies the specifics of food safety. but yeah.
skulltaffy 💀
either way, trying not to get too off topic. just go into it prepared for different tactics.
StupidSexyV⚠der
yeah shelf stable packs - those that are in boxes on the shelf, not cold milk from the dairy section
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... i'm so glad i went to lunch and came back to people sharing How To Handle Tear Gas tips. warms my soul
Exacerangutan
as a non-medical but science-y person, the shelf-stable milk compromise makes sense to me as well
plant jesus
PLEASE don't use milk! Punch a hole in the bottle cap of a bottle of water and use pressure to wash the eyes. There's a reason why eyewash stations in mfr facilities don't use milk, y'all. Use water, and wash the face with gentle soap like Dawn or Ivory after.
fandomjunkie
you can also purchase eye-wash bottles that are designed for things like that
plant jesus
Use water, and lots of it, sprayed with pressure to wash whatever you've been gassed with out of your eyes. PLEASE don't use milk. It's gross, it's not more effective than water, you don't know anyone's allergies... just use water, please.
plant jesus
I was part of Occupy when we thought that using milk of magnesia with water was what was best, and then again a couple years ago for the George Floyd protestws in 2020 when people were straight up using milk, or baby shampoo, and it turns out water really is best.
Nox
Write the phone number on your chest or stomach btw, cops take a number on the arm as a sign of forethought. And it's usually easier to see there.
Nox
(or wear long sleeves, but for anything taking place in the heat that might not be a good option)
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OMAHA, NE! SHOWING THERE ARE ICE RAIDS HAPPENING IN YOUR TOWN TODAY
Jay
is there anything a Canadian can do to help?
Jay
I did replurk, but feel like there's something more to be done
skipthedemon
Yeah let's just make people afraid to show up to work! That'll make America great again!!!! headdesk
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...OK I've officially seen too much anime. It took me way too long to realize "NE" meant Nebraska, and was not intended to sound cute or prompt a response.
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Jay : good question! I do not have an immediate answer to this but spreading the word is important first step
Exacerangutan
yeah I'm not sure what there is right now besides documenting and signal boosting
Exacerangutan
whatever anyone's going to do requires that there are eyes on events and that what actually happens isn't forgotten and free to be rewritten
plant jesus
If you have funds to contribute, bail groups always need money. You can reach out to the National Lawyer's Guild for reliable bond groups to contribute to.
plant jesus
You can also contact your own elected officials and let them know what you think about what's going on down here. They don't have any direct influence, but it's always a good idea that your officials know where their constituants stand on world matters.
plant jesus
Look to your own borders too, and see what bullshittery might be happening that's just been overshadowed by the US's crimes.
vyeresz 🐍
Jay : As an American, based on my own activism in support of Russian political prisoners & Russians opposing Putin, a few of my tactics in that scenario, that could be adjusted for this one, have involved:
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Signal boosting their posts, following them on social media, writing my elected officials to tell them to at bare minimum offer statements of support and solidarity with the Russians opposing Putin
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also, I recently found this - more rallies might be added, I'm not sure? I'm not near the US-CAN border myself
E.S. Levi
I know they're using supposedly non-penetrating bullets, but IN THE EVENT of a bullet wound! If it's in a limb or shoulders/hips, you can stem bleeding by packing the wound with cloth. Ideally sterile gauze, but even someone's shirt is better than nothing.
E.S. Levi
If someone is bleeding from a torso wound, put that cloth over it and press down, with your shoulders above the injured so that your body weight is working for you.
E.S. Levi
These are emergency first aid techniques that can buy someone time for the paramedics to arrive, if they're in danger of bleeding out.
E.S. Levi
This is a good resource for anyone who wants to learn what to do if someone is, idk, shot at a protest by some cop, soldier, or MAGA thug, or something.
Pteryx
Based on some old double-blind tests, water is second-best for pepper spray, after half-water, half-Maalox or Mylanta.
Exacerangutan
...huh. Now that's definitely interesting and surprising. (thinking)
Pteryx
Yeah, I was surprised too. It's counterintuitive for those of us used to dealing with capsaicin from cooking.
Exacerangutan
Yeah, at a materials science level it's also very puzzling, since afaik at least capsaicin is much more soluble in oils than in water.
Exacerangutan
Now I'm curious to see their actual data...
Magical☆Gurll
reiterating not to use milk on pepper sprayed or tear gassed protestors; the advice to do so goes around a lot because yeah most people are used to capsaicin from cooking but even just a brief google search will show you piles and piles of "don't use milk" answers
plant jesus
That "double blind study" didn't duplicate the effects of pepper spray on the eyes. They abraded somebody's arm and poured capsacin on it - that's a very different situation. Anyone going out in the streets, please just bring a lot of water.
Exacerangutan
It'd also be good to know if there's a further reason specifically to not use milk besides concern about sterilization. I've been trying to find a source with actual details, but I'm mostly getting a lot of "do X don't do Y" with few or no specifics.
Exacerangutan
At least one said that milk can provide relief of the effect but may not be as good for flushing away excess, which would be a good reason but I'm not clear why there'd be a difference in that respect.
E.S. Levi
Looks like it's in part that it isn't effective against tear gas.
Exacerangutan
plant jesus yeah that's one of the things I'm unsure of, how well that correlates to exposing mucous membranes
E.S. Levi
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Exacerangutan
E.S. Levi yeah, it seems like many tear gases at least don't involve chemicals with the particular properties of capsaicin that make milk helpful in ingestion scenarios but idk what flavor(s) of tear gas US riot police usually field
Exacerangutan
it may be best to advice water just because it's relatively safe, relatively sterile, relatively abundant, and at least pretty good for flushing exposed areas
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Preparing for, Protecting Against, and Treating Tear...
here's a guide from physicians for human rights, there's also a link to a downloadable pdf
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There is no evidence that baking soda or milk is better than cool water alone. There is one small randomized controlled trial that found that baby shampoo is no better than water. Using baby wipes or makeup wipes if water is not immediately available may cause increased irritation.
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(water is just more practical to carry for a protest anyway, especially in summer. stay hydrated out there!)
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Know Your Rights | Protesters’ Rights | ACLU
know your rights (page also has a link to a spanish version)
E.S. Levi
Yep. Milk might neutralize pepper spray better, but there's really no way to be sure what you've been hit with is capsaicin, so it's usually not worth the risk of infection.
E.S. Levi
I've seen some people saying that Dawn dish soap has helped, but again, that likely only applies to some tear gasses.
E.S. Levi
As prevention advice, though, it's worth noting that swimming goggles are airtight by necessity.
plant jesus
do not put dawn dish soap in your eye. just use fucking water.
E.S. Levi
Olympic-style swimming goggles might not save your sinuses, but they would make it much harder for anything to get in your eyes.
Jay
seconding this 1000% dish soap will make the irritation in your eyes much worse.
Exacerangutan
...yeah no I'd definitely avoid any detergents for that purpose, mucous membranes are very delicate. Even if it isn't good for cleansing something oil-based/hydrophobic, water is still very good for flushing affected areas and is about as safe an all-purpose washing fluid as there can be. When in doubt, water.
Exacerangutan
dish soap especially is not made for gently diluting highly fluid oils from mucous membranes, it's for dissolving heavy greases from things you can scrub vigorously, and if there's any appropriate medical use I'd really leave that to someone who's an expert in its application
curieosity。
detergents are bases, some stronger than others
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another example of CNN reporters being told to leave:
Blue Georgia (@BlueATLGeorgia) on X
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there's definitely been an uptick of assaults on news reporters and also news reporters being detained
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expect more of this
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also, love Rolling Stones detailing how This Was All Planned: Trump Gets His Police State With Troop Deployment in...
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it's paywalled, but i feel like it needs to be posted
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to California
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because of the protests
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as if California's GDP doesn't keep half the nation afloat
Exacerangutan
........I wonder if there's specific law regarding the ability of the federal government to deny funding to a state, e.g. if the state can say "well if you want us to be financially independent of the federal government...."
CRUSTACEAN KING
I am not in favor of Blue State Succession for any number of very good reasons, but if he wants to deny federal funds to California that is some real Fuck Around And Find Out hours, Donny.
Exacerangutan
yeah no actual succession would be an enormous escalation that would make so very many problems for so very many innocent people, but i wonder about the transactionality of the state-federal relationship and what transactional recourse there may be to restore balance if one side doesn't honor their part of it
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i mean there is a Constitutional Crisis in the fact that this is, in effect, the federal government reneging on the sworn agreement between it and the state
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that is something California leadership has to take very seriously
Exacerangutan
well yeah, one more mark on our constitutional crisis bingo cards
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I've been thinking more and more lately "well if other states want to talk shit about california constantly fine let's not fund them anymore and see how they feel, especially with trump gutting everything"
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and am surprised at how spiteful I've become, a little disappointed too
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and honestly I'm surprised it took this long for trump to do something specifically to cause chaos and damage in california to justify punishing it for something we didn't do
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my family doesn't believe that trump hates california and wants to do everything to hurt the people there, because he views it as some liberal sanction state (when it's kinda not as exampled in the last plurk about this, it's a purple state in denial)
vyeresz 🐍
i personally think it plays into blue state vs red state rhetoric to even say blue states should cut off taxes to the federal govt. it's still us vs them language.
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I don't disagree but atp it's almost starting to feel like a necessity to protect our own citizens from this hellscape white house
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Governor Newsom's Address: Democracy at a Crossroads
Newsom will be addressing the situation here at 6:30 PST if anyone wants to watch (give it views, help the insecure fame chaser seethe)
vyeresz 🐍
I'm for protecting as many americans as possible from this, and to me that means we don't leave people behind and don't engage in further divisional language
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seeing large marches in NYC, Chicago, Boston
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there hasn't been a huge amount of coverage but now the crowds are getting too big for news media to ignore
vyeresz 🐍
good
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trump can't deplay the national guard of the marines on all of them :V
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LA has curfew at 8pm
Exacerangutan
...well, not legally, but that only holds him back to the degree that his handlers are strategic about going after only a few threads of the fabric of the law at a time
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yeah I just saw that on the news
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love how this ignores there are people who work nights, personally
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some NYC footage courtsey of CNN:
Acyn (@Acyn) on X
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also a brief scene of a car in Chicago going real fast through the crowd
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no one seemed to have gotten hit, tho
CRUSTACEAN KING
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thankfully no
Exacerangutan
...yeah i don't love curfews as a means of protecting the public, i'm not sure they actually help so much as they just try to force everyone to pretend things are under control for a few hours
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... am i crazy or is my audio fucked?
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huh, I missed the beginning of newsom's address because==
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no you're not crazy the audio was off for me too
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ah
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wooooow
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okay there it goes
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there it is
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ah...now the stream ended?
Exacerangutan
yeah no it's a problem somewhere between source and youtube it seems
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good job youtube
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no it's going
cacopheny
it's working now
cacopheny
if you skim to the end
cacopheny
oops and then it cuts off nevermind. yeesh that was poorly done, dude
Exacerangutan
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it's going fine now?
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dude's really making sure people see him and consider him for higher leadership for sure
Exacerangutan
...I'm assuming it's technical glitches but...
cacopheny
huh mine stops at 4.:42 in the middle of his talking. I wonder if they made a newl ink
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I think. hopefully. he's not going to go for the whitehouse anymore
Exacerangutan
I'm not seeing it yet. It looks to me like they scheduled but haven't yet started a new stream.
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new link is here
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mine's still going
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there will be a posting of the address once it's over too
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Newsom is 100% "Come At Me, Bro" energy right now. he knows this will drive Trump to do something
Exacerangutan
the new link is now working for me! mid-speech but working
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but yeah anyway as I was saying, hopefully he's serious about being dedicated to sticking with california politics only even after he leaves office because by god I would probably jump off a building if he ended up a candidate for 28
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that would be such an embarrassing wash
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gotta find someone with a leveled presence who can out-do this moment, then.
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because people are going to be nostalgic for just Reasonable Dude Saying Things Sensibly
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walz seems like he's been campaigning
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but we're not there yet
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and no we're not I'll worry about that when we get there
cacopheny
yeah we've got a whole lot of infighting before 2028
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ahhhh good old liberal infighting
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oh that was it I guess
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basically "do not be complicit, do not give in to him"
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i mean i think this was 100% him getting everything on record before the feds come for him
Exacerangutan
yeah that's my read of it as well
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but good note to end it on
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because if they arrest CA's governor, oh boy.
Exacerangutan
broadcast where things stand while he's got the ability to do so on his terms
how about no
the idea of a governor being arrested for speaking out against a president is horrifying
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and yet I'm sure republicans are salivating at the idea of getting to arrest all the demo governors they want for not being nice to trump
vyeresz 🐍
yeah that was 100% an 'Alexei Navalny bravely goes back to Russia despite knowing he was facing arrest' kinda moment from Gavin Newsom
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party of state rights
Exacerangutan
Hell, I'm pretty sure there are plenty of Republicans right now pondering how to charge him with treason.
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Right now, wanting a good new governor candidate for CA is a focus for us, too. Because Newsom obviously has issues (technical and otherwise), but the violent rhetoric against California by supposed adults who are elected officials is really messed up.
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and hoping and praying we don't fuck it up for ourselves by assuming a republican gov will do us better
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I guess the "upside" of this is we have plenty of potential dem candidates and very few repub ones at this moment in time
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Walmart Faces MAGA Boycott After Heiress Funds 'No Kings' Ad
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but also I don't want there to be an overreach by the president arresting a governor, because that feels like one of those "fabled government overreach" things republicans wail about when there's a democrat president
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I can't believe Walmart's Heiress is on the right side of this...
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naturally it's only okay when they do it
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cannot fathom my existence including walmart's heir being like "hey trump is a tyrant"
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this was not on my 2025 bingo card...
vyeresz 🐍
my 2025 bingo card is utterly fucked by this point
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on saturday I'm going to eat deep dish pizza in honor of pope leo
ꜱᴀᴠᴀɢᴇ ʜᴀʙɪᴛꜱ
SHIT. I CAN BUY WALMART WITHOUT GUILT?
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who I will inform everyone is shredded:
Pope Leo’s personal trainer reveals shock at learnin...
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MAGA response to "we are a people of principle and honor" is "FUCK YOU, NO WE AREN'T!" Absolute clowns, every one of them.
Exacerangutan
........Walmart. ...okay. Talk about strange bedfellows. ._. But fighting the fash kinda has to take priority.
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for real
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share that in the main daily post, holy shit
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Shredded First American Pope...
vyeresz 🐍
"Shredded First American Pope" was my first thought and I've been laughing ever since
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more Chicago march footage:
Marco Foster (@MarcoFoster_) on X
Jay
ꜱᴀᴠᴀɢᴇ ʜᴀʙɪᴛꜱ : noooo, you really can't. Walmart itself disavowed the ad and insisted she has nothing to do with the company itself
ꜱᴀᴠᴀɢᴇ ʜᴀʙɪᴛꜱ
damn.
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this is the most Seattle thing I have ever seen
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Jay : can't believe Walmart's going bankrupt because MAGA won't see the difference
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Seattle protesting: stack electric bikes in front of fed building ICE is hiding in
Eʏʏʏᴍᴏɴᴅ Osᴡᴇʟʟ
clear riot behavior
Eʏʏʏᴍᴏɴᴅ Osᴡᴇʟʟ
/s
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lmao
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current Seattle situation...
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hm
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Acyn (@Acyn) on X
NYC getting rowdy. CNN clip
Jay
lol, yeeeeep
Jay
oh no, PLEASE DO NOT SET THE TOXIC BIKES ON FIRE >.<
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linked for: https://images.plurk.com/vZoLokv3gIq43FqVFo5AQ.png
ѕтσям¢αℓℓєя
all the other accounts I've read about the situation in Seattle have emphasized how peaceful it's been
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The sources said the SRTs (Special Response Teams) have been ordered to deploy in Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, Northern Virginia and New York.
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yeah, wild. getting SRTs because we're so peaceful
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y'all...
ѕтσям¢αℓℓєя
it's literally just people piling bikes in front of the federal building. the fact SPD hasn't been involved speaks volumes, tbh
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"and minor assaulted me" what does that mean katie daviscourt do you mean you were lightly pushed by a kid
ѕтσям¢αℓℓєя
the bike pile is probably her idea of "vandalism" too
Hyatt
no, that would be battery. assault is the kid made a move at her
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minor battery, the humanity
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I know she means "minorly" but it's so dumb lol
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