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propane backpacking/emergency stove rabbit hole

first stop propane to isobutane stove connector
Amazon.com: RANDDER Propane to Butane Adapter Campin...
and super mini isobutane stove
Amazon.com: Backpacking Stove Portable Camping Stove...
those little squat cans are isobutane not propane.
if you decide to go isobutane you may end up with 2 cans ½ full.
want to carry 1?
Amazon.com: RULLINE Backpacking Fuel Transfer Device...
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kudos to firefox: copy clean link dumps tracking strings
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the start of this dive:
Amazon.com: Mr. Heater Fuel Keg. - 1 lb. / 16 oz. Em...
saw them at walmart.
thought interesting.
i think these are the same people who made my heater.
Amazon.com: Mr. Heater 18,000 BTU Portable Propane B...
[i don't remember paying that much. dual bottles is nice]
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mr heater has a refill kit for their bottles
Amazon.com: Mr. Heater Propane Refill Kit for Fuel K...
it's a bit spendy compared to other solutions.
not sure if it's worth it
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Amazon.com: Mr. Heater Fuel Keg. - 1 lb. / 16 oz. Em...
Amazon.com : Flame King Refillable 1LB Empty Propane...
i've only found 2 cylinder makers on amazon.
my initial vote is for the mr heater fuel keg.
the flame king's vent requires an allen wrench to open.
that's getting lost immediately.
the fuel keg vent valve has a nice big ring on it to operate it.
strikes me as better design
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video of refilling with the mr heater system:
Honest Review of The Mr Heater Fuel Keg Propane Tank...

first one i saw on yt.
not great but it doesn't sux as bad as the volunteer video on amazon.
(there is no air in the cylinder. empty cylinders have residual propane gas. the vent on the keg allows the liquid form the 20lb bottle to displace the gas)
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the two stands i've stumbled across:
Amazon.com: BLUEFIRE Propane MAPP MAP Pro Handheld T...
Amazon.com: Sondiko Propane MAPP Gas Cylinder Stand ...
no solid opinion yet.
haven't looked for alternatives.
i may fall back on the idea that the appropriate hole saw and a 2x6 provides a cheaper solution
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another stumble upon item: caps
Amazon.com: SOOYEAH 1LB Propane Cylinder Protect Cap...
Amazon.com : Joywayus 6Pcs Solid Brass Refill Propan...
this may just come down to what do you like?
are you a powder coat or a bare brass guy?
(guy is gender neutral in my head)

if this is in your survival kit, it's sitting in the storage tub waiting for disaster.
dirt etc. are not your friends.
cover the openings
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the cavalcade of cheap alternative fill systems:
Amazon.com : Getoolet Propane Refill Adapter for 1 l...
Amazon.com : Getoolet Propane Refill Adapter for 1 l...
Amazon.com: Propane Refill Adapter with Valve and Ga...
Amazon.com: Upgraded Propane Refill Adapter with Val...
for the fun of it i may look at the local hardware store to price the fittings to put this together myself.
I don't have a feel for these good or bad.
my knee jerk reaction is knockoff
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this one made me go: uh, nope
Amazon.com : Getoolet Propane Refill Adapter for 1 l...
their pic of the valve open and closed:
https://images.plurk.com/7hNTDT8NVPSBT8irMaU7DX.png
if the handle is set up that way it's bad: error prone.
if the pic is just mislabeled it's still bad: what else did they get wrong?
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the thought here is for use in an emergency.
think hurricane katrina: power and services were unavailable for a long time.
propane liquid will cause frostbite.
if the hospital isn't available severe frostbite could be life threatening.
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katrina conditions: very hot, very humid.
chances are good you will not be in optimal condition yourself.
my opinion of new orleans in the summer: go inside where it's air conditioned.
plan for adverse conditions during the survival situation.
avoid setting yourself up to fail
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end note:
crap happens.
the texas power grid goes down.
michigan get blizzard level snow storms.
flooding on the east coast.
fires on the west cost.
what would you do if your power was out for 2 weeks?
will you have to boil water to make it safe to drink?
rice and beans are boring but for 2 weeks they'll keep you alive.
you have to cook the rice…
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the notion that sparked this dive down the rabbit hole was not about the russians invading.
i'm a cold war kid.
every so often the detroit freepress published nuclear warhead damage maps for detroit.
wayne state university still had fallout shelter signs and equipment.
the water barrels were used as trashcans.
duck and cover was over by my time
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my theory was that if the russians did invade they'd leave after 2 weeks: dealing with american teenagers just wouldn't be worth it
mimi
Very interesting research. And food for thought.
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