Cherry
[Pokemon TCG pocket] 4629-2787-0489-5957 if anyone wants to add me
Cherry
I've never actually played the Pokemon TCG before this, so I have no clue about deckbuilding balance except like, general transferrable knowledge from other games like OBVIOUSLY you don't want more evolved cards than basic ones and you'll want effects that thin the deck for you
Cherry
(managed to overdo it in an experiment involving a Meowth the AI opponent took too long to take out and was pleasantly surprised decking out didn't end the game)
Cherry
anyway I'm very casual about logging on and playing, like I might just grab a booster and log back out some days. But this seems like a chill app that doesn't mind if you do that so
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
pocket isn't like the actual tcg anyway it's about as much the real tcg as duel links is the ygo tcg
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
but correct basically every deck runs two pokeball and two professor's greed-- i mean research because. deck thinning :V
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
taps chin. the sweet spot is about 50:50 tbh, adjusting up or down based on individual deck
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
i run a couple decks at 8 pokemon, i do know some places say you can go up to 12ish fine if you have to
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
what you want to not do is like... split your focus between too many different evolution lines
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
like if you're running a 3 stage line with another 3 stage line with a 2 stage line then that means you're going to be playing from behind tempowise unless you can get that 2 stage evolved fast to hold the line
Cherry
Yeah that sounds like a way to brick lmao
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
while you slowly evolve the two 3 stages,
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
yeah
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
hand full of the higher evolution forms, no basics to play them on
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
bricky hands!
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
sabrina is Highly Recommended in most if not all decks for maintaining tempo bc retreat costs are a thing and you can either force out x speeds or screw up their energy gain curve
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
and also it can like. for example you are a point away from the victory, and you just attacked and weakened a mon that you can ko next turn. they retreat it on their turn and put out something else in front to stall
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
poof! sabrina forces them to switch with the weakened backline, you win.
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
giovannis are useful once you learn your damage thresholds and which mons win what duels / where the 10 damage diff actually makes a difference
Cherry
I will save up my pack points for her then! I got lucky and pulled a Giovanni earlier, he's sitting in most of my decks now just because he sounded useful
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
nods! the tutorial gives you a copy of red card, potion, and x speed iirc, potions and x speeds are generally useful (not run at max all the time but if you need deck filler then they're never bad) and red card can be... situationally useful (sometimes it's just a free mulligan for the opponent)
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
notably none of those you pull from packs, you can just buy em for cheap from the shop
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
but yeah giovanni useful! fire specifically has a stronger giovanni in blaine though if you're running rapidash/ninetales/magmar, and i mention it mainly because of the outbreak event going on rn in wonder pick
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
which probably can help in building a budget fire deck at least
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
(blaine is +30 to those three specifically which is hilarious for reaching ko thresholds on ninetales)
Cherry
Didn't realize those items weren't in the packs, went and grabbed an extra potion and x-speed!
Cherry
also thank you for the balancing tips! went with 12:8 since I'm indecisive
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
yeah! play with the ratios and see what works best for you/a given deck
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
flings a friend req from meikyuu
Cherry
accepted!
Cherry
I did not set out to collect all the Eevee art but it seems RNG wants me to. Maybe I'll make a binder when I'm done shopping
Cherry
there we go
Cherry
https://images.plurk.com/5gJebXnYoQMCftOpBQzvWI.png
Cherry
"An Earth of Eevee" was too long
Cherry
other two Kanto evos are going on the top row when I get them
Cherry
with any upcoming to fill in below
Cherry
(or I find a fourth Eevee card and Vaporeon gets shoved over one)
Cherry
well, that was a learning experience. I completely misunderstood Ditto's effect. I know it now
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
ditto is... so hard to use
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
hilarious when it works, though.
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
I haven't been able to figure anything decent from experimenting tho, what were you trying?
Cherry
Oh I misunderstood it wanted the exact energy requirements
Cherry
hadn't had the opportunity to use it before
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sent a request!
Cherry
went to copy an attack from my opponent's bench and, uh, yeah. That was embarrassing.
Cherry
And accepted!
Cherry
(got to copy a Rollout off a benched Snorlax before it got KOed though. Given my opponent put the Snorlax down after my failure they were giving me that one...)
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if you want to try to duck some of the meta decks in battling if you use the password "noex" people are gentleman's agreementing not to use ex cards in those matches
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but it's not like an official rule so it's not a guarantee
Cherry
Good to know! I'm fine with ex cards though
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I usually am (and usually run a pikachu ex deck) but sometimes I am tired of seeing mewtwo haha
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
I've been haunting random battles in beginner which has a spread
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
you still get some tryhards running Mewtwo ex and stuff but overall there's a significant amount more people who appear to be experimenting with their decks than in the event mode
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
(shout-out to the guy attempting to run Muk/Weezing, I could never do it but hey you do you)
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weezing koga is a terror
Cherry
I'll probably do that once the event ends. Since I am a beginner and experiments are basically all I have while I figure out what I like
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I head a good tip though, which is if you run red card and they koga their weezing back into their hand you can red card it out of their hand
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
weezing koga is a terror, i just think the muk is bringing weezing down
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since they can't re-evolve for a turn
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
but perhaps a better deckbuilder than I can figure out one for them!
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
oh that's evil
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
red carding them back into the deck...
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pikachu has a lot of trouble with weezing so I'm thinking of replacing one of my x speed cards with a red card since my cards generally have low retreat cost anyway
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
I've been chilling with venomoth/vileplume pseudo-trap; I'm actually not sure how many people know how sleep works
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
since the ability to retreat is turned off when asleep, so ... coin flip hell.
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how sleep works: I will never ever flip heads when my pokemon are asleep, but my opponents always will if I try to use sleep
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
how it's worked for me so far had been:
trying to stall for Dragonite: opponent always flips heads
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
screwing around with poison and sleep in vileplume/venomoth: oh they haven't flipped a single head this entire game. holy shit they drew exeggutor ex on turn like 8. and now they still can't flip heads. they've been asleep for 3 turns. i kind of feel bad here,
Cherry
Poison is fun. I unlocked the Nidoqueen/Nidoking rental and found myself putting Nidoking up front for the poison more than Nidoqueen for the extra damage
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
people tend to underestimate poison lol
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
'oh 10 damage a turn right'
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
wrong, ten damage per turn swap.
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
20 every turn you get,
Cherry
oh, pulled Sabrina this morning before work! ....also Pidgeotto, which bridges the gap and lets me also run Pidgeot for the same effect, if I really wanted to double up on being annoying
Cherry
interesting opponent: their strategy hinged on winning every sleep coin flip while Greninja chucked water shurikens from their bench. Unfortunately they never got it going.
Cherry
I was lucky enough to get the entire Pidgey line in my opening hand+first two draws. They opened with Snom, never drew Frosmoth, put Drowzee out without enough energy once Pidgeotto took it out, didn't draw Butterfree and Metapod couldn't stand up against Pidgeot, who had too much HP for Greninja to save its frontliners.
Cherry
poor drawing luck in a deck that hinged on luck anyway. I would have liked to see the intended strategy in action
Cherry
New cards or not you'll have to kill me to get Genetic Apex Pidgeot away from me, I love this bird
Cherry
(I'll try the ex in a couple decks if I get it but...)
Cherry
it just won me another game
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
pidgeot/arbok I think genuinely was a semi popular anti Mewtwo deck so I believe in pidgeot power
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
I've just. never pulled one
Cherry
oh god I can see it. Force out+lock in. Sounds incredibly fun! I don't have an Arbok though.
Cherry
oh my god I have a theme. I didn't mean to have a theme but I have one
Cherry
harpies in ygo and now this
Cherry
menacing roost of birds like "aw, are you setting up? Cute."
Cherry
https://images.plurk.com/63ZxeN8jkgpq34kMEAtnPE.png oh, hello
Cherry
https://images.plurk.com/4N01znNNTGrQmimLNhRQ8R.png hello???
Cherry
welp, got a ragequit
Cherry
not like conceding loses you anything?
Cherry
they spend like four-five rounds building up Celebi ex on the bench. they can see I'm giving my Tauros (Mythical Island) enough energy to attack in prep on mine
Cherry
they decide there's enough energy on Celebi and swap it in, oneshot the Jigglypuff I had out
Cherry
Bring Tauros out, play Giovanni, oneshot Celebi
Cherry
"waiting for opponent to return" pops up on the side of the screen
Cherry
and I have to wait their entire turn timer
Cherry
it's not like Jigglypuff was an effective stall, either, if they'd actually put any of their energy on their active they could have gotten rid of it. They were flipping heads on every sleep check
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
truly why did they not think you'd probably have a giovanni in hand if they spent 5 turns building celebi...
Cherry
Right? I guess they might have thought I was banking on too few heads to take down Tauros the next turn.
Cherry
(but then they'd have a Celebi a Pidgey could beat...)
Cherry
could've had an Erika, though
Cherry
all around it's weird. Tauros only does 40 against non-ex, they could probably have defended their last point.
Cherry
....this one didn't ragequit but did continue to play their Celebi ex into the ex breaker I was clearly building in response
Cherry
seriously just switch lanes and put your Serperior out there, force me to readjust because that's three energy I wasn't using to beat that
Cherry
pokemon ex is not an I Win button
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
guaranteed people just built celebi because it's the 'top' of the meta and easy to play but truly. believe it or not there's drawbacks to EX mons
Cherry
yep...
Cherry
another match, another Celebi ex deck. This one was more strategic about it! (also I never drew Tauros)
Cherry
unfortunately they had a turn where they had four coin flips and all of them were tails. Oof.
Cherry
setup was hilarious though because they had two Celebi and got both in their opening hand, so they put them both into their opening field like "look! :-D"
Cherry
I'd be excited for drawing all my highlights at once too!
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
I've been trying to toy with and tweak a water deck based around Vaporeon + Gyarados (EX), with a few mons thrown in for tech options/stall, but man
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
i've tweaked it a few times do far and will continue to, but water feels so dependent on an early good misty to get any momentum
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
Vaporeon's good at conserving that momentum but the start of a game feels really rough, progression wise
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
very few things in water seem to attack on a normal 1/2/3 energy curve...
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
meanwhile I dip into vs player to see what people are running and
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
ah, a sea of celebi
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
haven't seen that before
Cherry
lol right? They're everywhere!
Cherry
I've got a water deck but it's mostly just messing around. Greninja+Tentacruel+Bruxish
Cherry
I say that like all my decks aren't just "lol this sounds fun" regardless of whether it's good
Cherry
Water does seem to just take so long to get going. Even if they didn't do extra damage Electric would be a hard counter just for its speed
Cherry
aaah just fought a really cool Hypno/Weezing deck designed to put the opponent into coinflip hell
Cherry
unfortunately Smokescreen doesn't stay up if Weezing is forced to the bench and I had Pidgeot
Cherry
but that was such a cool match
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
ohhh for a moment I thought you were talking about the og weezing with pokemon ability poison and hypno sleep to disable switches and let it rack up
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
smokescreen + sleep is double gamble evil, that's so funny
Cherry
that would have been funny too! (and technically you could run one of each but it would be clumsy)
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
(i imagine you could pull koga or leaf shenanigans to smooth the switch from one weezing to the other but yeah it's definitely more clumsy than two of the same, I think,)
Cherry
https://images.plurk.com/4ezbfsgziSntzxf7PGUnNW.png cool! Game, this is the second time you’ve given me any form of Gyarados. I am begging you to also give me a Magikarp
Cherry
https://images.plurk.com/3DCp1Dqi0k00J3vLjiKdG9.png https://images.plurk.com/58UOY9V6fcP8S1eUjc6vV3.png I’ve been thanking everyone I fight but sore losers are exceptions. Just tap concede or play the game out. Please.
Cherry
On that note, I appreciate the turn timer. It’s at a perfect length. I’ve had to stop to read an opponent’s card before and never felt rushed, but when people ditch like this it doesn’t feel like I’m waiting too long
Cherry
user greeting: I'm confident at flipping heads!
the deck: entirely coinflips Kanghaskan, Lickitung, MI Eevee into Jolteon...
Cherry
that was fun
Cherry
their poor opening Kangaskhan spent 3 turns flipping double tails though. oof. Felt that one so hard.
Cherry
but yeah cool/funny themes are the best I am happy to have run across this person!
Cherry
(Lickitung avenged it with a bunch of heads the moment it left the bench though? 240 damage overkill on little Farfetch'd)
Cherry
....did I seriously get a ragequit against someone with 2 palkia ex on the board? please tell me their phone just died or something
Cherry
the thing that makes me think ragequit is Kanghaskhan got a double heads against the Wartortle they had out front and KOed it. Maybe they ALSO had a Blastoise ex back there in the hand?
Cherry
https://images.plurk.com/5cKsBjFByiRctReeE9W4nL.png this isn’t an unwinnable board so idk
Cherry
maybe they only had 1 Misty to build energy with...
Cherry
annoying glitch: the audio likes to cut out now if I switch apps for any reason and come back (like sharing a screenshot)
Cherry
“Oh I’ll just grab a pack to unlock the expansion in the dex search and worry about picking cards later-“
https://images.plurk.com/3FfxIrQz6hwLOaSwnMYMun.png
𝔟𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔬𝔣 𝔯𝔲𝔦𝔫
oh congrats!
Cherry
thank you!
Cherry
https://images.plurk.com/65ll3zwufiZMzfSuhonLrn.png ?!?!?!????? What the absolute FUCK was this pull???? Holy shit.
Cherry
I would have been happy with just Palkia but the game went the extra mile
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