Ash!!1
[jjk] I am wfh today and finally caught up on jjk s2 and I have Thoughts
Ash!!1
and those Thoughts are primarily that Toji is the funniest fucking character
Ash!!1
I'm glad i understand all the bad dad jokes now
Ash!!1
but gawd. king. shows up, kickstarts geto's villain origin story, dies, comes back via seance and is like cool free body and just causes problems on purpose for a few eps
Ash!!1
belatedly recognizes his son, goes sweet yea fuck our family, kills himself
Ash!!1
sir,
Ash!!1
i really liked the animation direction this season, it's like they did chainsaw man and were like 'WHAT IF WE KEEP DOIN' THAT SHIT THO'
Ash!!1
Good fun animation all around
Ash!!1
tho lord MY ONE GRIPE IS
Ash!!1
if your fave isn't gojo or sukuna: fucking rip to you
Naem
godddd JJK S2 is Peak Shounen in every way
Ash!!1
Nobara: does nothing all season, gets killed*
Naem
which does include all my faves dying l-lmao
Ash!!1
Nanami: killed by FUCKING jogo of all people. i know mahito finished him off but like really??? Jogo???
Ash!!1
Yuji barely feels like the MC until the mahito fight 
plz let yuji exist in his own anime,
plz let yuji exist in his own anime,
Ash!!1
megumi i just constantly forget is around until said bad dad shows up
Ash!!1
AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING i'm sure maybe they get Better but my apologies to other shounen saying that the villains are shallow, I think I have never cared less about villains,,,,ever til jjk
Ash!!1
jojo and curses: WE'RE HUMANS CUZ WE'RE MADE OF PURE NEGATIVE EMOTION
Ash!!1
me: wat
Ash!!1
jogo*
Ash!!1
anyway they don't matter cuz they're dead now lmao
Ash!!1
i assume better villains replace them
Ash!!1
Naem
: I feel like jjk has the opposite problem of stakes. Maybe take some stakes away actually.
Ash!!1
It does solve the cast bloat problem tho lol
Naem
sobs. yeah
Naem
also on one hand i can't relate to your opinion of the villains because ??? jogo's death got tears out of me ????? but on the other hand i am, to this day, baffled that jogo's death got tears out of me. what the fuck. was i ok that day
Ash!!1
LMAO
Ash!!1
i didn't even realize he died cuz the scene was boring me
Ash!!1
and i looked away aldfjalfkds
Ash!!1
and was like wait is he dead
Naem
dsgfbgfdhdf oh no
Ash!!1
rewinds. reads wiki. okay cool moving on
Naem
HE WASN'T EVEN MY FAVOURITE OF THE CURSES it's so odd
Ash!!1
sometimes feels hit ya, NO LOGIC TO EMOTION
Ash!!1
But yea none of the curses had me feelin anything
Ash!!1
you gotta give me something more than we deserve to win cuz we're superior
Ash!!1
me blinking one eye and then the other
Naem
FAIR
Ash!!1
I DO find it funny that on paper jogo was crazy strong
Ash!!1
but he kept picking fights with ALL THE OP CHARACTERS
Ash!!1
AND GETTING HIS ASS KICKED LMAO
Ash!!1
which makes it all the more insulting to me that nanami gets got by him
Ash!!1
like it makes sense!! he's super strong!!1
Naem
jogo is the biggest, most unprepared hater
Ash!!1
but we rarely ever actually saw him being competent lolol
Naem
i feel u though nanami is one of my aforementioned faves who got got
Ash!!1
YEA
Ash!!1
idk it just felt weird to me, i feel like if he was gonna die he should've when he got domain trapped in s1
Ash!!1
instead of. gestures at this
Ash!!1
feels weird
PHONY
toji is great
PHONY
garbage dad of the year
Ash!!1
but whatevs rest in pieces salaryman
PHONY
anyway yeah all jjk villains are mostly irrelevant except for kenjaku
Ash!!1
TOJI IS JUST PURE FUN CHAOS
PHONY
he's the only one gege likes and thus bothers with giving 5% motivation to feel like a real person (the motivation is he gave him a comedy boyfriend to become a fucking a comedy duo)
PHONY
but everyone else NAH SORRY TO ANYONE WHO WANTED DEPTH OR MOTIVATIONS LOL
Ash!!1
wheeeeeze
PHONY
sukunafuckers suffer every day
Naem
now. to be fair. i find mahito extremely fun because he is JUST a huge asshole who makes funny faces
Naem
also i am one of the 3 junpei stans on the face of the earth so that helps (remember junpei???)
Ash!!1
sukuna at least shows up cry. tho yea i feel nothing for sukuna too but i like him as a plot device
PHONY
i love all jjk villains but they're all made to be awful and irredeemable and therefore flat af
Ash!!1
MAHITO WAS ALSO VERY FUN
Ash!!1
TOO BAD HE'S DEAD,
PHONY
even sukuna in the end at the end of teh manga was like
PHONY
"ok let's spend like two chapters trying to figure out if you can be a real person"
PHONY
sukuna: no lmao never
PHONY
yuji: sighs tiredly, gets rid of him
Ash!!1
GAWD one of my friends loves junpei (shout out
phalloween
!!) and all these years i thought he was a main character cuz he's so popular
Ash!!1
watches s1. me: this fucker is dead already ????????
Ash!!1
PHONY
: WHEEZE
PHONY
idk you junpei player but i know of your legends
phalloween
Eeeeeee I’m so excited
PHONY
ash is now the second person to say "I THOUGHT HE WAS ALIVE FOR SO LONG" bc of you
phalloween
(It’s me I am the Junpei menace)
Naem
lmao hi there
PHONY
hero
Ash!!1
as you should be he was cute!1
phalloween
My picking him up was born from my pain
phalloween
I wanted him to have more life!
Naem
i was in fact counting you as one of the 3 junpei stans in existence. i'm sure the third one is out there somewhere
PHONY
i'm a geto player so shakes hand but my hand is greasy and slimy sorry
Ash!!1
fkaskak
Ash!!1
if you find all 3 junpei players and make a pact maybe junpei will reappear for the final chapter next week-
phalloween
Geto is another favorite
Ash!!1
but yea i'm still not like, gripped by jjk but at this point it's more about the Spectacle. I will probly stay anime only tho and absorb spoilers from friends.
Ash!!1
OH MY OTHER GRIPE WAS CHOSO and his whole I'M UR BROTHER NOW
Ash!!1
which was ????
phalloween
Look I will forgive Choso anything
phalloween
He is sinless and blameless
Ash!!1
i get the kenjaku thing something something possessed yugi so i guess he's semi a curse but it was very [squints]
Ash!!1
i spoiled myself tho and was like okay does this fucker live to the end-- 
lmao
lmao
phalloween
Kenjaku got creampied by Yuuji’s dad
PHONY
choso my perfect son
Naem
sdfghnxzsdvxdfgdvxdvx
Ash!!1
wait i meant to say nope
Ash!!1
fkdfk
phalloween
It makes him the ultimate villain he took a creampie to forward his evil plan
PHONY
yeah
phalloween
(This may be one of my favorite lore bits)
phalloween
I also may be responsible for some people thinking Geto/Gojo is canon.
phalloween
because it pretty much is ok
because it pretty much is ok
PHONY
i mean it's as canon as wsj will allow
phalloween
Right??
HEY LISTEN
yeeeaaahhh
HEY LISTEN
i think with Jogo it is kind of like you said. he IS a pretty powerful curse (since I think Kenjaku says he's like 5-8 Sukuna fingers strong) but because he already got his ass handed to him by Gojo twice
HEY LISTEN
it makes the whole HE KILLED NANAMI??? thing kind of ??? but Nanami is a 1st Class sorcerer, which would actually be weaker than Jogo. it's just lol. wao.
Ash!!1
yea it just feels unsatisfying that he gets got by the buttmonkey lol
Ash!!1
I also just generally hope the kids get more focus cuz like I said JUST GOING BY ANIME RN yuji does not feel like the MC cry
Ash!!1
and megumi i keep forgetting about alkdjfkasfd
Ash!!1
I thought gojo gets got this season but no he's just stuck in a box. hilarious.
Ash!!1
gege writing furiously trying to find a way to nerf him so he doesn't solve the plot immediately,
Ash!!1
other nitpick: extremely dislike mei mei lmao
Ash!!1
1) i don't like her creepy relationship with her brother (ash u like aza brocon YEA BUT THEY'RE AT LEAST TEENS/ADULTS AND NOT ADULT/GRADESCHOOLER)
Ash!!1
and 2) her hair is fucking stupid
Ash!!1
get that braid out your damn face
phalloween
Yuuji is one of my favorite shounen MCs ever though
phalloween
He’s just a good boy
Ash!!1
He's a VERY good boy, I like him a lot
Ash!!1
I just wish he was in more of his own show 
Ash!!1
but again i assume that will change as things progress esp with [everyone dying]
baby gremlin
I find Yuji refreshing because the boy just wants to live. He doesn't even aspire to be anything great. No one does in a world which Gojo exists. It's an interesting alternative take on an All Might figure, who instead of inspiring others, just makes people feel like eh... what's the point you know?
baby gremlin
Oops this is badly phrased. YUJI DOESNT EVEN WANT TO LIVE. HE JUST WANTS TO BE HELPFUL AND NOT CAUSE HARM
baby gremlin
And if not causing harm means FUCKING DYING he is down
Ash!!1
he's truly trying so hard to just Vibe
Ash!!1
i think he's getting to that point and like i said I ASSUME, HE GETS MORE FOCUS as the story progresses
Ash!!1
just up this point it doesn't actually Feel like his story, y'know?
Ash!!1
more like he's just along for the ride and staring into the distance every time something fucked happens
wâfel
Toji is such a shit, I love him so much
Ash!!1
i was telling ari its like fascinatingly baffled that i think fandom enjoys yuji's hoodie uniform more than yuji himself,
Ash!!1
me seeing all the cosplays of ppl wearing it but with a different characters' wig,,,
Ash!!1
that said, slot yuji in with deku and tanjiro. Good Boy Squad of this generation.
baby gremlin
Fun fact, Ash, Shibuya and the MHA Paranormal Liberation arc and it was hilarious to compare the casualties in JJK one named supporting character dying in MHA? 😂
baby gremlin
*were published at the same time
Ash!!1
Oh yea iir gege and horikoshi are buds, unsurprising lol
baby gremlin
Jjk is really a lot like HxH which is Gege's favourite series essentially. Sometimes it's not Gon's story either
Ash!!1
looks at shigaraki, looks at mahito
Ash!!1
'its the same picture'
Ash!!1
[except shigaraki gets development,]
Ash!!1
I don't really compare casualties tho cuz jjk and mha are totally different stories and genres, only shared in being shounen
Ash!!1
mha is a story of hope and what it means to come together as a community and inspire others
Ash!!1
jjk is 'WOULDNT IT BE FUCKED IF THIS HAPPENED' and u know what i respect that,
Ash!!1
also possibly a love story idk i am not on the geto gojo train but also i can't not say it isn't basically canon
Ash!!1
but yea Twice's death in MHA was big and impactful because death hits so rarely in MHA, and from a character people really sympathized with
Ash!!1
but also shot out to hawks like NOPE THIS BITCH GOTTA DIE--
Ash!!1
shout out*
baby gremlin
Right it's a different kind of genre. I really feel like it's Mappa's fault jjk got the mainstream treatment since it's one of the darker, weirdo WSJ canons
baby gremlin
Mappa putting gege's freak on main...
Ash!!1
I MEAN it's deserved, it is good!!
Ash!!1
and they REALLY went all out in s2
Ash!!1
i'm sorry i will never not be put off by the lip shine in s1 a;ldkfjskfa
baby gremlin
(I still thought jjk is hopeful despite seemingly bleak and I'm glad I wasn't wrong)
Ash!!1
so glad they got rid of that weep
Ash!!1
yeah jjk isn't necessarily SUPER DARK or like, not even a horror imo
Ash!!1
it just goes about what it's trying to say via the route of 'aint no one safe' lmao
baby gremlin
NO I FUCKING HATE THE LIP SHINE.
Ash!!1
clasps hands u get me
Ash!!1
there are some things i feel like could have been telegraphed better??
Ash!!1
like with sukuna just like murdering a whole half a city of people
Ash!!1
i think that would have had more OOMPH if i weren't already primed for randos to die 24/7
Ash!!1
LIKE STILL EFFECTIVE IN GETTING YUJI TO SCREAM INTERNALLY
Ash!!1
but points at gege DON'T BE A COWARD
Ash!!1
SHOW THEM SUFFERING AND DYING. DO IT. DO IT COWARD
Ash!!1
GO ALL THE WAY
Ash!!1
which he might do later on idk i'm anime only
Ash!!1
if so: Good lol
Ash!!1
baby gremlin
: ALSO BELATEDLY AS SOMEONE WHO COULD ONLY GET 1/4TH A WAY THRU HXH......................this suddenly makes sense cry
Ash!!1
HxH also doesn't hit with me cry. And JJK i am being dragged kicking and screaming due to loving animation.
baby gremlin
My biggest gripe with the lip shine is that Obviously Gojo's biggest design charm point is his eyes, not duck lips, the lip shine was fine if his eyes are covered but then there's both, it's TOO MUCH COMPETING
Ash!!1
IT WAS SUCH AN ODD CHOICE. THIS ISN'T A SHOUJO,
baby gremlin
(I think jjk deserves popularity but it attracted a mainstream fandom that wouldn't match Gege's freak and won't read it for what it is, same with CSM)
baby gremlin
JJK s1 has the same character designer as Yuri On Ice. I want to fight them in a Target parking lot
Ash!!1
FGJLAJDFLKJDF
baby gremlin
Gojo really isn't draw with so much "seduction" lens in the manga either. Think of it as the Reigen treatment but not funny.
baby gremlin
But that's the trouble when you have an attractive character in an art style which everyone is attractive at base level. They really hammed it up
baby gremlin
In s1 anyway. S2 finally got it right for me.
Ash!!1
crying
Ash!!1
YEA s2 fit the vibe muuuch better
Ash!!1
like i said i feel like they learned from animating CSM
Ash!!1
and the looser style was sooo much better for the action
Ash!!1
honestly weirdly of all the bombastic animation
Ash!!1
what stands out to me most is gojo just walking up to hanami and it exploding them lmao
Ash!!1
like damn thats skill to make a walk look badass
baby gremlin
Poor Hanami didnt even get to use their domain expansion
Ash!!1
deleted
Ash!!1
gege kinda has some of that itagaki beastars energy tbh
Ash!!1
as soon as they're done with an idea INTO THE TRASH LETS GO
Ash!!1
'development tho??' 'NO GROWTH ONLY GO'
baby gremlin
INTO THE TRASH LETS GO
baby gremlin
But haha Back to Toji for a second. Toji being back for 2 seconds just made the entire fandom just believe at any point Character X could come back at any moment regardless of narrative contribution it's so annoying
Ash!!1
HAHA
Ash!!1
yea i did think it was very random and unneeded
Ash!!1
toji's just such a menace i didn't mind
Ash!!1
LIKE ULTIMATELY IT REALLY WAS POINTLESS
Ash!!1
LIKE MEGUMI DIDN'T EVNE KNOW WHY THIS DUDE WAS CHASING HIM???
Ash!!1
funny but ???????
baby gremlin
jjk fandom who thinks character X will come back because they want Dragon Ball revolving door deaths vs Gege's killing off any character who finished their narrative purpose are at complete odds
Ash!!1
lolololol
Ash!!1
gawd tho. remembering toji just using: Gun
Ash!!1
hilarious. i should not have laughed but i did
baby gremlin
I do feel like toji just existed for Maki to be like What The Fuck????
Ash!!1
any time someone brings a gun to a magic fight i laugh
baby gremlin
He's the best example of Gun
Ash!!1
BUT YEA THAT WAS ANOTHER THING
Ash!!1
first: grasshopper, then,,, random mustachio assassin that looks like he's from another genre
Ash!!1
me: gege u really scraping for things for yuji and megumi to do before getting to mahito huh,
PHONY
lmfao yeah gege treats his cast very much like devices to further the plot and truly once they've done what they were meant to BYE YEETED DELETED
PHONY
which means that when someone Doesn't Die, that's the twist
Ash!!1
yes lmao
PHONY
AIN'T GOT NO TIME/ENERGY TO BE DRAWING ALL OF YOU RANDOS IN GROUP SCENES
Ash!!1
i respect it tbh
Ash!!1
horikoshi, gege shaking hands. 'i will have an infinite cast and never kill all might.' 'i will kill someone every other chapter INCLUDING your fave'
Ash!!1
this is why they're both ending
Ash!!1
they were yin and yang
PHONY
true
PHONY
and now gege is also leaving to let his favorite manga come back
PHONY
such fulfillment
Ash!!1
i'm happy for him
phalloween
NO BUT I LOVE GRASSHOPPER GUY
phalloween
He was cuter in the manga I think but I loved him
Ash!!1
HE'S THERE FOR LIKE 5 MINUTES
Ash!!1
me staring into camera like are you tryna to convince me this cell knock off is any credible threat whatsoever
Ash!!1
and lo,
PHONY
it's true he was moe
Ash!!1
none of them are moe kill em all
Ash!!1
me having zero patience for these filler curses lmao
PHONY
well the pacing is very ash-friendly in that sense
PHONY
"you're/this is boring die" is literally the reason why things get rushed sometimes
PHONY
cannot afford to have his manga canceled
Ash!!1
YOU CAN RUSH AND STILL BE ENTERTAINING
Ash!!1
i zoned out so many times cuz there was just No Point lolol
PHONY
ok but isn't the choso fight absolutely nuts
PHONY
animation-wise
Ash!!1
i think it comes down to making the opponents at least more interesting
Ash!!1
ALL THE ANIMATION IS FUCKING NUTS
PHONY
the mechamaru episode too
Ash!!1
CHOSO'S FIGHT BEING LIKE A FIRST PERSON SHOOTER SENT ME LMAO
PHONY
fuck off mappa
PHONY
the anime does soooo much for the fights
baby gremlin
I will say that Yuji continues to not really have main character focus for basically the entire series? Like there's some stuff here and there but you'll be disappointed if that's what you want out of him
PHONY
the manga is nigh incomprehensible at times
Ash!!1
I liked choso's fight a LOT cuz it was like finally yuji gets to do something cool--[choso stops cuz he's his brother now and also time for sukuna to drive]
Ash!!1
PHONY
yeah what michi said
Ash!!1
cries
PHONY
YUJI HAS SOME OF MY FAVORITE MOMENTS GENUINELY
PHONY
but cast big and hunger games hard
baby gremlin
This is funny to me because I'm behind on the anime. I only got up to Choso washroom fight
PHONY
baby gremlin
: me2 michi