Yenchin
川普的胡說八道跟閃躲還真不少 XD 不過,就像台灣 (和世界其他地方一樣?) 會投的那沱還是會投 XD
Yenchin
"Do you know that crime in Venezuela and crime in countries all over the world is way down? You know why? Because they've taken their criminals off the street and they've given them to her to put into our country. "
Yenchin
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Yenchin
MUIR: President Trump, as you know, the FBI says overall violent crime is coming down in this country, but Vice President the...

TRUMP: use me, the FBI -- they were defrauding statements. They didn't include the worst cities. They didn't include the cities with the worst crime. It was a fraud.
Yenchin
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masayoguyver
我最近才看了這本
真相製造:從聖戰士媽媽、極權政府、網軍教練、境外勢力、打假部隊、內容農場主人到政府小編

發現其實台灣選舉沒有我們自豪(?)的精彩,sad
masayoguyver
印尼他們還有虛擬總統候選人耶輸給東南亞
Foxx
Yenchin : 關於委內瑞拉幫派大舉入侵美國, 川普說的是事實, 就是這篇CNN報導講的

This is the dangerous Venezuelan gang infiltrating t...

NBC的報導
'Ghost criminals': How Venezuelan gang members are s...

眾議院的報告也有

Venezuelan migrant with suspected gang ties released...

最近的Aurora, CO許多公寓被委國黑幫佔領, 還有紐約市最近委國黑幫屢次犯罪還襲警, 這些媒體都有報導
Foxx
FBI公佈的犯罪紀錄不完整, 有些城市漏報也是被報導過好一陣子的問題

比方說NPR在2022年的報導

https://www.npr.org/...

根據NPR的報導, 川普說的也是實話
Yenchin
Foxx : MS-13 早在上上個 decade 就在混進美國 - 遣送 - 再洗一輪了,這又不是新鮮事
Foxx
所以這個不知道哪裡來自稱fact check的網站認為NPR造假嗎
Foxx
FBI data shows US crime plummeted in 2023 but expert...

Guardian也有報導, 比起不知道哪裡來的fact checker, Guardian資料來源比較可靠點?
Yenchin
認為川普造假

https://images.plurk.com/3JfOVotoJ7f7y91BiKUN3e.png
Yenchin
LOL, from Guardian
https://images.plurk.com/2XZfjMd2HmZnJO4Oi475M1.png
Foxx
CNN報導說利用邊境不設防而大舉入侵的委內瑞拉幫派叫做Tren de Aragua喔, 是這兩年新進來的
Yenchin
而 MS-13 早就在20+ 年前幹這種事幹成全美最危險幫派了
Foxx
Guardian
https://images.plurk.com/qKhMWsnIgBMTmNwvBTedP.png

川普說FBI的crime data不完整, Guardian這篇報導的確說不完整
Yenchin
結果完整度還比 2022 還高
Foxx
"非法移民製造多數的犯罪"這句話的原始出處是紐約時報引用的研究, The Hill也有報導
https://thehill.com/...

Illegal Immigrants Are Bolstering Social Security Wi...
Yenchin
2005 .... 所以要怪 GWB?
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