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[pls replurk] Hey friends, I have a pride-related question for y'all! I'm in the process of developing needlefelting kits in the vein of these:
https://images.plurk.com/heFU8ZIqiJgtmVKsmBmK5.jpg
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For artists and crafters who sell pride-related stuff, which flags do you find sell the most? Which ones the least?
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For everyone else, if you were inclined to by a pride-themed crafting kit and the following 13 flags were the options, which would you choose?
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-Rainbow
-Bisexual
-Trans
-Intersex
-Non-binary
-Asexual
-Pansexual
-Polysexual
-Aromantic
-Agender
-Genderfluid -Genderqueer -Lesbian
bean check
Rainbow, bi or pan! Wouldn't mind the hoops being a little more jazzed up as well
zee
i can only speak for furry cons, but i have gay, lesbian, trans, ace, and bi, and i seem to move gay, trans, and bi the most
FʀᴏᴍTʜᴇFɪʀᴇ
None of the above and I also would not support that shop. I have a hard line rule on not buying anything from any shop that includes more than 3-4 flags and doesn't include the gay male flag (the blue and green one)
FʀᴏᴍTʜᴇFɪʀᴇ
Which I realize may not be what you're looking to hear but that's my honest answer at this point.
ℍ𝕒𝕞𝕞𝕖𝕣 𝕋𝕚𝕞𝕖
Hey man, as someone who flies the MLM flag maybe wording things a bit nicer? The flag is only recently gaining more popularity and not everyone might have seen it or known about it. I would say suggesting the flag rather than berating the seller would be the kinder way to go about things.
ℍ𝕒𝕞𝕞𝕖𝕣 𝕋𝕚𝕞𝕖
That being said, these are adorable and I would buy the trans one in a heart beat as well as the rainbow and the ace for my partner. If you eventually made the MLM one is snatch that up too!
Mundanite
I would buy the rainbow and the ace ones!
Mundanite
Also, do you have something with a size comparison? I'm trying to figure out size but my brain is not computing, lol
zee
FʀᴏᴍTʜᴇFɪʀᴇ : out of curiosity, why is your limit 3-4 flags?
FʀᴏᴍTʜᴇFɪʀᴇ
zee : it really comes down to amount of specificity. This list contains some pretty specific ones but when there's four flags it's always going to be like. rainbow/bi/trans/ace or soemthing like
zee
oh wait i see, i misread your initial comment
🎄𝒥𝒾𝓃𝑔𝓁𝑒𝐵𝑒𝓁𝓁𝑅𝑜𝓍🎄
Ngl I would love to see a purely aromantic flag represented. As an aro myself, we tend to always be lumped into the aroace spectrum and that’s not always the case. Purely aro flags are extremely rare to see and it’d make me really happy to have some representation.
MR SEPHIROTH
in my personal experience, my aspec and bi plushies consistently sells out fastest. lesbian, trans, and nonbinary are also strong sellers. polysexual is the one on your list where I haven't had a sale in quite some time now.
ᴇɴᴛᴇɪₒ
trans and aro/ace, if I were buying! I agree the MLM flag would be really cool to see, and so would another rare flag: the combo/"sunset" aroace!
ᴇɴᴛᴇɪₒ
https://images.plurk.com/2Yw2RTLH4J8ojxw4rWVwfT.jpg https://images.plurk.com/7l0YDijzcVNibirzkJxZfs.png
ᴇɴᴛᴇɪₒ
but again, as stated above, these are much more recent popular additions to the family, and they've got a much wider reach in the younger communities than our age's
Nellasaura Art
Thanks so much for all the feedback, folks! I appreciate it
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I've never even seen the sunset one, dang
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Regarding the MLM flag, I didn't include this one in my list for a few reasons, but the main one is that it uses 4 colors that aren't present on any of the other flags
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The only other flag that uses more than one non-repeated color is polysexual, and I already have a large quantity of 1 of those 2 colors
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I also was worried a 7-stripe flag would be too busy and too fiddly for a needlefelting novice.
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I was actually going to exclude the lesbian flag for the same reasons, but then I found the 5-stripe variation, which is the one I would offer.
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If I manage to successfully develop these kits and there's a consistent enough demand for them, I'd absolutely expand the range of flags, but as it is, I'm already looking at a wool order of over $100 if I offer all these flags in the initial/test run of this product
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(Jesus, listen to me.)
Mundanite
(wool prices are legit a thing, as a fellow fiber artist)
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Mundanite : oh my god wool has gotten SO much more expensive over the past few years
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also, here! https://images.plurk.com/51zdCPZUd7CUcQWXbtCmCj.jpg
Mundanite
Thank you! My brain was picturing them smaller, which is why I asked. :-) I appreciate it!
ℍ𝕒𝕞𝕞𝕖𝕣 𝕋𝕚𝕞𝕖
To me that is an INCREDIBLY valid reason. I will say it might be nice to have even a simplified version? I know I can't speak for a lot of people but even I would appreciate that. Granted it not sharing as many colors with other flags is also a good reason.
ℍ𝕒𝕞𝕞𝕖𝕣 𝕋𝕚𝕞𝕖
Smaller businesses I know can have a hard time with having the materials for something that might not sell as much and can't be used in other projects as easily.
ℍ𝕒𝕞𝕞𝕖𝕣 𝕋𝕚𝕞𝕖
also those are bigger than I thought too! They're so cute!
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They're a good fridge magnet/tree ornament kind of size, I think!
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ℍ𝕒𝕞𝕞𝕖𝕣 𝕋𝕚𝕞𝕖 : Now that's a good suggestion. I wonder if there's a 5-stripe version out there already...
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/5-striped_New_Gay_Male_Pride_Flag.svg/1920px-5-striped_New_Gay_Male_Pride_Flag.svg.png
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now this I'd only need to get the mint color second down from the top probably, maybe that top green
ℍ𝕒𝕞𝕞𝕖𝕣 𝕋𝕚𝕞𝕖
Nice!
ℍ𝕒𝕞𝕞𝕖𝕣 𝕋𝕚𝕞𝕖
Come to think of it I think I've used this version for a flag in a character illustration I did for Pride a couple years ago
Surprise!Cheese
Rainbow, bi, ace, enby! **edit: are the ones I would think about purchasing
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thank you!
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https://images.plurk.com/5jFqzVpERpUhsQjM9xpxaR.jpg
I'm trialing this gauzy stuff as the backing fabric for the kits, we'll see how it goes :>
'Sail
so I realize that they're different hues of green, but would it look too odd to do the aro and MLM flags in the same greens? I know when I did the aro pattern for someone a while back, it was a very "work with what ya got" situation, so I went with more blue-hued greens like in the MLM flag there....
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Possssibly
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I've got a big batch of wool samples on the way to assess in person!
'Sail
I'm eyeing the green in the top two hearts in the OP image, and tbh, I think that darker one would look cool enough in an Aro one. :-) (hi, aro ace here, lol)
'Sail
balancing accuracy and practicality can be tough...
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it sure can, bluh
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I appreciate your input, though, thank you!
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*developing these felting kits, if anyone's interested in following along!
Teeff
as a needlefelter I would adore any ace/aro/aroace flags it warms my heart to see them any time
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Noted, thank you!
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