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do you ever just get mad abt a subject of argument that hasn't come up in your life in literal years. anyway sometimes I still think abt a dude who once was like "how come Eu art got so good and realistic and EA art still looked cartoony and bad" and want to break a table while muttering under my breath it's bc fluidity is a different skillset
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that western schools of art still suck at actually so ofc art elitists will never acknowledge this
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oh I just felt my blood pressure spike--
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impressionism wasn't monumentally influential or anything and Europeans just made it up one day
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find me a SINGLE western comic that conveys movement anywhere even remotely approaching the level of literally any bargain bin shounen manga
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art isn't about fine-tuning the skillset of making things look pretty, it's about expressing emotion! unless the vehicle of expressing emotions is through portrayal of actual facial expression or body language because uhhh that's just comics for children or something
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as you may have gathered I have combined this man from my past in my head with every single art teacher who has ever uttered the words 'stop drawing anime'
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: see this still looks super stiff to me but I will say I think the hand as the speech bubble arrow is a stroke of genius
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I posted it for the giggle more than anything else, anyway.
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he sure did move
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bust in here is someone TALKING SHIT ABOUT WESTERN COMICS
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neither is bad its all a matter of aesthetics
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also let me introduce you to the OG one of the most influential western comics that i think about every other day
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https://i.redd.it/gj0mancmd5s61.png
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If you have never read Bone highly recommend, I thought I didn't like fantasy shit until this slapped me in the face and my world was expanded. That and it's not only FUNNY but every page, esp in the colored version is just...gorgeous
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then of course there are western COMIC STRIPS and like i don't need to sing the praises of calvin and hobbes but if you want creativity and movement i suggest getting an anthology of these
then of course there are western COMIC STRIPS and like i don't need to sing the praises of calvin and hobbes but if you want creativity and movement i suggest getting an anthology of these
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now western super hero comics yes can come off as crazy stiff, especially in the early years but they have evolved so, so much
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but even then stuff like hellboy oozes personality and fluidity in their simple linework and use of heavy blacks
but even then stuff like hellboy oozes personality and fluidity in their simple linework and use of heavy blacks
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look at those all might ass looking eyes
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shounen pulls from western influence and western influence pulls from manga/anime influence a LOT, neither is better than the other both are valid and beautiful 
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Gawd i forgot bone has an amazing old lady ready to throw down all the time and one of the most weird/unique looking dragon characters i have ever seen
Gawd i forgot bone has an amazing old lady ready to throw down all the time and one of the most weird/unique looking dragon characters i have ever seen
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he is always inexplicably smoking. i don't think this is ever explained.
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i do agree teachers who are like 'stop drawing anime' are bullshit tho lol. one told me that and i still got accepted into SCAD. suck it professor (i did not go tho cuz SCAD college prices are a fucking scam)
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also i'm personally not into this but you can't look at something like this and call it stiff. you just can't. it evokes emotion, it's funny, it's ironic. It is a different skillset, but again no better than any others
also i'm personally not into this but you can't look at something like this and call it stiff. you just can't. it evokes emotion, it's funny, it's ironic. It is a different skillset, but again no better than any others
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when will i draw clothes as half as good as this
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oh wait thats the movie version. thankfully the comic is just as horrifying
oh wait thats the movie version. thankfully the comic is just as horrifying
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for stuff that looks actually stiff i'm not going to link it bu Watchmen fits this, tho I think the stiffness is deliberate since at the time it was parodying the hypocrisy of super hero comics
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not for me but i respect the craft, read it once and never again cuz Whew lol
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one thing that bothers me about west vs east art arguments whether they're proclaiming either as inferior or just talking about the differences is that there's this tendency to treat both as existing in a vacuum
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really my overall statement: read Bone
really my overall statement: read Bone
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big agree on reading bone also
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and yea same. All 'eastern' art isn't hecking anime and all 'western' art isn't superman comics
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and anime/manga/comics itself is so varied that people just point and go 'cartoon'
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anime is not a genre it literally just means animation and i still need to shake ppl about this sometimes
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BONEEEEE 😡 #BrooklynNineNine #CaptainHolt #RosaDiaz ...
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BONE!!!!!!!
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I did not actually mean "western comics art is bad/lesser than eastern comics" so that's my bad for not being clear
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there is a general undercurrent of frustration I have abt western "high art" values where in the past "art" was prized as realism, until technical training became more accessible to poor people and then the standards for what counted as "high art" started shifting wildly to start discounting technical skill so it could still be an elite rich people arena ->
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but there's like a lingering sentiment of like "technical skill was perfected in the Renaissance/Baroque movement or whatever and thus the Impressionists progressed art by starting to break the rules"
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which just dismisses fluidity and movement as technical skillsets entirely. shrug emoji