good: characters who seem kinda bad but the more you dig deeper into them the more compelling and nuanced they become

great: characters who seem kinda bad but each time you reveal another deeper layer they get even worse

i fucking love erika furudo and trying to explain this makes me sound like i need to be in jail

Furudo Erika deserves the death penalty (affectionate)

shes so awful it rules

1000% my jam

I am led to believe this is the main appeal to Zenos FF14 as well

kind of, although he starts out pretty bad

each time you dig deeper it's just like 'no he really is just like that'

Zenos has the depth of a puddle but he's a very persistent puddle

Zenos knows what he's about and it's really unfortunate.