Feeling better but now am reading abt Spanish-Holland war that dragged the PH in it. These Europeans & their wars.
Apparently a "war of religions" happened in Netherlands: Catholics vs. Protestants. But of course in 1646 while the PH only had 2 ships against Dutch invasion, we have Nuestro Señora Del Rosario (La Naval) = miraculous win. ph
It's one of those battles where I wish Drachinifel (naval historian youtuber) covered because how the hell did that happen? If I google the battle all I get is the wikipedia, and all from the perspective of the Spanish. I want to know how the Dutch recorded the battle. Like, I have a sinking suspicion that the Spanish didn't include Filipino deaths
Dutch invasion happened several times during the 17th century and each one of them failed. Anyway I think I found one from the side of the Dutch. Will read muna.
kinda weird for the Catholics to prop up the Virgin Mary as a military bulwark against fellow Christians, but the whole time period was full of that bloodthirst and wanton savagery between the two factions. It's how we get the very fun word "Defenestration" popular after all
Well hey that's what happened in the Netherlands but in the PH being an already Catholic country, of course they only had God to help protect their conquered land...
But on the Dutch side they claim they never really wanted to invade the PH... or something. https://asj.upd.edu.ph/...
I mean their entire war was about becoming independent from Spain so I imagine the battles outside of Europe were more of a sideshow to have extra pieces on the negotiating table.
Or some fudging the numbers with some good old fashioned manipulating statistics I'm still suspicious about how honest the Spanish were in reporting casualties. Were only Spanish citizen deaths recorded? Did they have a ton of wounded who died later after the battle and weren't included? Things like that
Huh, yeah the Dutch were more or less achieving their objectives according to your link. It paints a completely different picture from what's on wikipedia
Yeah makes sense then that they didn't really offer battle, and just contented themselves to killing hundreds of people in outlying villages all over the country and disrupting trade. Those two ships are committed to Manila's defense, anyway
Technically a ship-of-the-line instead of a galleon since it was made a century after La Naval, but yeah taking down one of the treasure ships is a massive effort. This one took multiple groups of British ships several tries to defeat
Also they weren't alone, they had smaller ships supporting them. Even the wiki says the Spanish had Brigantines (Basically what you imagine a small pirate ship is like), and your Dutch source mentions the Spanish fleet as having small ships of their own.
"really good ones". Basically a game where you can live a life as a pirate/privateer/navy captain and immerse yourself in the setting. the 2004 game was the last one that really scratched that itch
Moving on, meanwhile in Indonesia, the Dutch continued their capitalist conquest but still waged war w/ any Catholics they found there, e.g. killed/imprisoned priests accdg to
your Dutch source doesn't mention the disposition of the Dutch fleets, just that they stood no chance against the Spanish Galleons (which if you look at Spanish sources they downplay as being old and rotten)
I think at the end of it all I'm just highly skeptical of the Spanish. They seemed to really want to overblow their achievement in what is arguably a small sideshow of the war because they lost against the Dutch overall and wanted to reclaim some national (and religious!) glory by declaring a miracle.
I know right. Not much sources from Dutch side probably because they lost 4 out 5 of the fights. Dunno. Maybe it's just like the PH-US war, US is mum abt it.
Apparently a "war of religions" happened in Netherlands: Catholics vs. Protestants. But of course in 1646 while the PH only had 2 ships against Dutch invasion, we have Nuestro Señora Del Rosario (La Naval) = miraculous win.
PH-Netherlands: Elevating the seven-decade old ties
Wikipedia has a source with complete indio drama going on By a Jaime C. Laya Wala Lang: When we got caught in between: ‘La Navál ...
Anyway I think I found one from the side of the Dutch. Will read muna.
But on the Dutch side they claim they never really wanted to invade the PH... or something. https://asj.upd.edu.ph/...
Moving on, meanwhile in Indonesia, the Dutch continued their capitalist conquest but still waged war w/ any Catholics they found there, e.g. killed/imprisoned priests accdg to
I guess I should look into Islam conquering other countries next.