duck bastard
[vidgames and how media literacy is dead]
duck bastard
> Person: It's kind of funny that people are freaking out about the incest in this game rather than, like, the cannibalism and shit
duck bastard
> Someone with a worrying lack of media literacy: This is because it glorifies incest! Meanwhile, violence is always depicted as wrong in video games, like how CoD depicts the horrors of war
> Everyone else: .............you mean the military recruitment game????
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Lea
CoD as anti-war, anti-violence media is... a take.
Beans
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chock fulla woe
me, who wrote a literal 20 page college paper on call of duty: are you sure about that
duck bastard
they also talked about how GTA shows it's bad because the cops get called on you and Red Dead gets you a bounty
Beans
the game the military actively uses to recruit new people??
Beans
by showing how cool being a soldier is??
𝒄𝒐𝒇𝒇𝒊𝒏 𝒒𝒖𝒆𝒆𝒏
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𝒄𝒐𝒇𝒇𝒊𝒏 𝒒𝒖𝒆𝒆𝒏
this is not only incorrect, but very specifically the exact opposite of correct
hiroc
CoD? COD???
Lea
I don't even actually like the game much myself, but someone force that person to play Spec Ops: The Line.
chock fulla woe
cod is about how violence is bad when the perpetrators are your enemies, thats part of the way it works
Lea
Just so they know what actually demonstrating the horrors of war in a video game actually looks like.
Kaysper
don't tell them about Digital Devil Saga.
Lea
that's like three steps above what they can handle, gotta ease them in
chock fulla woe
i mean realistically theres no way this person has actually played cod, they just thought this was a gotcha, but
Mega
CoD and other military shooters are almost always glorifying war, what
Mega
o_O
Mega
spec ops feels like an exception
duck bastard
Gore is to show realism in media. In games like DOOM its to help visualize the horrors of hell
Lea
Well yeah, Spec Ops is a deconstruction. Very deliberate.
Lea
... Random internet person. They tried to turn DOOM into a horror game. It was called DOOM 3. No one liked it.
~(=^‥^)_。
all i remember about DOOM is how in college we had a skin where we turned everyone into sailor moon characters and the guns into their henshin items
Kaysper
everything keeps coming back to Sailor Moon this month.
Kaysper
this isn't a complaint mind you, just an observation.
ʙɪᴛᴄʜɪᴍᴡɪʟᴅ
Yeah, but like rip and tear.
ʙɪᴛᴄʜɪᴍᴡɪʟᴅ
mick gordon didn't put his entire feet, toes, and ankles into the soundtrack for you to come out that game horrified at violence.
00000000
Kaysper - Digital Devil Saga was my first thought too
00000000
Also and outside of video games, Angel Sanctuary would give this person a very hard time
Calliente
Okay but. What about the incest in that game is 'glorifying' it, as opposed to the violence that the characters engage in just as openly, spitefully, and (I assume) eagerly
Calliente
Glorifying is another word I am taking out of people's mouths until they learn to use it right, because a lot of these chucklefucks say "glorifying" when what they really mean is "depicting"
~(=^‥^)_。
it was a great way to suss out the crappy gamer in that computer lab. the first ones to complain about how 'ew girls'
but yeah people just are so illiterate about a lot of media
Calliente
This person isn't complaining that the incest themes are handled gratuitously, they're complaining that they exist
Calliente
And they're using a WILD double standard to do it
ʙɪᴛᴄʜɪᴍᴡɪʟᴅ
There are two types of media for these types that is... interesting when it comes to dark sexual content. Media they don't understand and condemn, or media they do understand and like, but if anyone that is like them created it, they would jump that person.
duck bastard
yeah - like, not the same person, but I was in a conversation and the person was refusing to believe that it was portrayed negatively at all because the creator made that "cry about it" bit of official art with the incestuous shitbirds themselves
Calliente
'Glorifying', 'romanticizing', 'normalizing' - every time an anti says these words, what they are actually saying is "I need you to pretend with me that these dark sexual themes are actually worse than dark non-sexual themes, and we will pretend this by using buzzwords that imply that they are being handled wrong"
duck bastard
and I was like...... yeah they made that because of people like you. people who know literally nothing about the game besides that it has incest in it AT ALL and have decided to decry it for that reason alone. no idea of the story, or portrayal, or characters, just that it has incest in it
duck bastard
and their response was "well, maybe if it didn't romanticize it"
duck bastard
James, immediately: that you said MAYBE you would respond better just proves my point
Calliente
"And we need to pretend this because it makes me look less like a hypocritical Puritan who is ONLY clutching pearls whenever Nasty Sex comes up, and not when you're allowed to gun down prostitutes on a motorcycle"
BIG DAD ENERGY
.... I’m gonna take away this person’s access to RDR2 if they’re going to use it as any kind of example
Calliente
IF YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE GAME OTHER THAN THAT IT HAS INCEST IN IT, HOW DO YOU KNOW IT ROMANTICIZES IT, YOU [redacted]
Calliente
I am officially banning any anti who has not engaged with a piece of media themselves from using the words 'glorifying', 'romanticizing', or 'normalizing'
BIG DAD ENERGY
I’m trying to articulate why and it just comes out as “you missed what it actually said about violence and crime if you just use the bounty system ”
Calliente
If you haven't actually consumed the piece of media, you can't speak with any authority on how it handles its themes and subjects
MR SEPHIROTH
god james. the person you just reblogged talking about fight club. like. I honestly for a second thought they were trying to say how stupid it is to walk into a group of fans and tell them that toxic masculinity is bad when that is already the message of the movie so you're just being an ass by assuming they don't know that
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