Beans
[vidya/cursed] https://imgs.plurk.com/QD3/Kgm/fSjFrnZ079CwrpFXUALWbYhKmza_lg.jpg
everyone come point and laugh
00000000
Oh, it was by committee? That explains a lot
katzenjammer
>fe3h
lol
katzenjammer
lmao, even
Beans
the classic libertarian power fantasy of bioshock
Beans
a story of [checks notes] the crumbling ruins of a librtarian power fantasy that was impossible o sustain and never would have worked
curby&coughing
persona 4? really?
Quinneapolis
https://imgs.plurk.com/QCZ/OYJ/T3lJnYs5Pxz6luwQ35XR6DfI2BB_lg.gif
ѕαмѕα
3. 3h????
ѕαмѕα
the one where one of the main characters wants to fistfight dragon jesus for causing their world to stagnate under an oppressive church???
HALF A HEART
bioshock. really.
tsuchinoko real
this is bait... right...
CERTAINTY
morrowind.
CERTAINTY
fallout 3..................... i GUESS if i had to pick a fallout game???? but it's also making fun of conservatives pretty hard, they're just too braindead to realize they're being mocked.
unbound
METAL GEAR RISING?????
unbound
THE ONE WHERE YOU KILL THE GUY WHO LITERALLY SAYS MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN?????
yarn witch
PARASITE EVE?!
yarn witch
yeah this is totally bait
skillmer
silent hill 3????
CharAshu
lol at parasite eve. which ends with you killing a giant baby
skillmer
wait bioshock???? a game where the bad guy is a capitalist literally based on walt disney
ShootingXC
ѕαмѕα : they clearly only played one route
ѕαмѕα
l m a o
CERTAINTY
fallout 3 ends with you tagging along with a giant robot designed to fight in a war against communist china and massacring the remnants of the obscenely corrupt american government while the robot yells about destroying communism in the name of AMERICA.
katzenjammer
liberty prime
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silent hill 3, where you actively abort god
yarn witch
^^^^
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i can smell the people who voted for toujou project
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touhou*
CharAshu
them and the DoA Xtreme folks
Beans
god of war a game in which you play as a manly man who violently destroys this home out of sheer rage
Beans
(this is presented as a bad thing)
化けの花
ѕαмѕα : yeah on the flipside one of the other routes is like, profoundly conservative so it doesn't surprise me chuds are claiming it. been saying there's a problem with that side of the players for ages lol
化けの花
but at worst that just means 3h isn't really about anything overall, which is its own problem
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squints
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they also picked the worst dmc game by a country fucking mile
化けの花
i'll honestly give them p4.
化けの花
because yeah.
mango diequiri
I would not give them P4
mango diequiri
It aged poorly but that doesn’t make it conservative-core
BERSERKER
yeah this is by committee so at LEAST half of these are people memeing and/or people comically missing the point, both equally likely
Mega
this reeks of bait or media illiteracy
sanda
as much as i love p4, given the writer has out loud said some conservative shit... yeah i unfortunately have to give them this one, queerness can be derived from it but p4 itself is not queer and in fact pretty bad about the concept of queerness in how it depicts kanji and naoto, or yosuke unable to keep his mouth shut and stop being homophobic
Beans
Mega : perhaps both
Mega
P4 is an odd case where they wanted to be outright queer
Mega
at least where Yosuke is concerned
Mega
if you read Yosuke as closeted and with internalized homophobia, it hits different, but because they removed his romance route and only left shipteases, it feels so much worse
Mega
my guess is Hashino or someone else at atlus said nope
mango diequiri
I wouldn’t say queerness is the only measure by which this should be judged either but I’d be curious as to what the writer said that would paint the entire game as conservative
Mega
Yeah, there are other aspects to consider outside of queerness. I think P4's biggest problem is... Hashino. Because Hashino's said some really shitty stuff in the past
Mega
like how he made it so you couldn't platonic route the girls in p3 because he didn't believe boys and girls could be friends
Mega
or how hashino mandated that all of the female confidants in P5 be "cute"
sanda
theres also the unfortunate implications with naoto in how shadow naoto offers to make her a man... in a lab like its a science experiment as opposed to like a doctor in a hospital, which has been used in antitrans rhetoric by conservatives that don't see top/bottom surgery as a legitimate procedure
Mega
yyyyeah, it's really unfortunate that it was done that way
Mega
it doesn't help that trans rights in japan are really rough, where you have to get surgery to be treated as valid
sanda
and naoto's whole romance link being a mess in general like when you make her wear a dress
Mega
yeah. I never chose those options but the fact that they were there...
sanda
and even putting queerness aside... the main villain of p4 is someone who threw women into the tv that rejected his advances
sanda
granted, the game doesn't make that excusable... if you ignore golden's accomplice ending where you can in fact choose to make that excusable yourself
sanda
and i say this as someone likes the main villain too, there are in fact layers to him that's not entirely built on misogny so much as it is about apathy being what flavors his actions, but the fandom tends to still be even more apologist than necessary when it comes to that guy quite a bit
sanda
PUTTING ASIDE P4 THO some of the choices on here do make me point and laugh at this person anyway, like silent hill 3 which I could go into an entirely different rant about but won't here for brevity and will just say go watch tangomushi's video on youtube about it
how about no
...and here's me, the lone person being like "man even if it's mmz, zero is still a gay fucking robot whose build isn't exactly stereotypically masculine in that particular line of games"
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