Ash!!1
[twists] [character design] https://imgs.plurk.com/QD2/EJR/Kty2KO4i656Bnfn4t74HgbBMMbm_lg.png every so often i am reminded at how irrationally mad i am at jack's character design
Ash!!1
'ash that's a perfectly fine anime boy what's wrong with you' THAT'S EXACTLY IT
Ash!!1
HE'S A WOLF GUY AND 1) HE LOOKS BLAND AS HELL AND 2) HIS HAIR IS SO STUPID
Ash!!1
AND 3) HIS NAME IS JACK HOWL. IS THAT SUPPOSED TO SOUND LIKE JACKAL??? WHY. IF HE'S A WOLF!!!
taffy
is this supposed to be mister beanstalk
taffy
(is this the fairy tale gacha i forget)
𝑒𝒹𝑒𝓁𝓌𝑒𝒾𝓈𝓈❆
taffy : twisted wonderland is based on disney villains so yeah this is that gacha
Ash!!1
https://images.plurk.com/4BOOtQ4lUJ9vB48eNXj9yD.png he can also turn into a wolf that can't decide if it's a quadruped or bipedal and he STILL HAS HIS STUPID HAIR
Ash!!1
taffy : YEAH THIS IS THE DISNEY 'WHAT IF VILLAINS WERE PRETTY BOY EXPIES' GACHA
Ash!!1
except!! JACK ISN'T EVEN BASED ON ANYONE
taffy
okay so who IS this supposed to-- gods dammit
proxy ⚡
WHY DOES HE HAVE THAT HAIRSTYLE AS A WOLF. WHY DOES HE HAVE HAIR AS A WOLD
IT'S TONI ☂️
Whispers you could've been everything. Why is your hair so dumb.
taffy
no y'all take that back the stupid hairstyle is fantastic
MRS SEPHIROTH
oh ok I was racking my brain to figure out which disney character he was
MRS SEPHIROTH
I was about to fight on behalf on jack skellington
taffy
is he supposed to be the big bad wolf????
Ash!!1
THEY JUST WANTED A WOLF. THERE ARE SO MANY ANIMAL CHARACTERS YALL COULD HAVE BASED HIM ON
𝑒𝒹𝑒𝓁𝓌𝑒𝒾𝓈𝓈❆
nah he's in the Lion King based dorm
Ash!!1
taffy : no he's in the savana dorm aka part of the lion king world
𝑒𝒹𝑒𝓁𝓌𝑒𝒾𝓈𝓈❆
he just sort of Is
𝑒𝒹𝑒𝓁𝓌𝑒𝒾𝓈𝓈❆
(I play/ed twst at one point so)
taffy
throws hands in air well i'm out of ideas
Gayple
closes my eyes at Jack
Ash!!1
ALSO LIKE. IMAGINE. IF HE HAD A CUTE BUZZ CUT.
Ash!!1
OR DREADS
Ash!!1
DREDS*
Ash!!1
ANIME ARTISTS I BEG U LEARN DIFFERENT HAIR STYLES
proxy ⚡
i'm like yeah w/e about his normal people form bc tbh anime tends to be too cowardly with its furries in general but i can't forgive the wolf hairstyle
Ash!!1
INSTEAD OF THIS SILVER PUFF....UPTURNED THING...
Ash!!1
it doesn't even match his tail
Ash!!1
his hair is flowing in a different direction!!!
proxy ⚡
does he spike it like this. does he intentionally style his hair like this.
Ash!!1
right!!
Ash!!1
https://images.plurk.com/6sYCH94jvCx9WaFkndiEYM.png https://images.plurk.com/2e9OHrLh4DFvqf8rup7yGF.png like in comparison, here's ruggie (a hyena expy) and leona (the scar/possibly kovu expy)
Ash!!1
ruggie's cute and small and the haircut works for him
Ash!!1
leona's pretty generic hotboy but you know what who among baby furries didn't crush on scar or kovu so that's forgivable
taffy
oh no those both are cute
Ash!!1
AND THEN THERE'S JACK
Ash!!1
i'm so upset i don't even go here, BUT IF I DID, IT WOULD BE FOR THIS DORM
Ash!!1
BUT JACK RUINS IT
Ash!!1
HOW DO YOU MESS UP BEING A WOLF, JACK!!!
IT'S TONI ☂️
I'd never seen his wolf form before so. I honestly don't know what I expected
IT'S TONI ☂️
I'm mad because the one with the Gun Show should really be a shoe in for my favorite character
IT'S TONI ☂️
But I can't
Mote ✧
This is not actually to change your opinion, I just want to let you know they pull back his hair poof.
club card spoiler in case anyone's avoiding that
Ash!!1
Mote ✧ : STILL BAD CUZ NOW HIS HAIR IS JUST AN UPSIDE DOWN MOP
Ash!!1
it not flowing the same way as his tail is so annoying sob
cabbage?
tbh i still wonder what he is supposed to be in disney IM DISNEY ILLITERATE MOSTLY BUT IM LIKE
cabbage?
was there a wolf i forgot in the lion king
Ash!!1
no!!!!1
IT'S TONI ☂️
Ash!!1
like i thought maybe??? he could be a wolf like the wolves in the jungle book but
Ash!!1
1) that's asia and 2) they were good guys???
cabbage?
he's such a good boy but he's not protag coded i think in the other twst thematics but WHERE DO U COME FROM JACK
cabbage?
who are you!!!!
Ash!!1
WHOMST!!!!
Ash!!1
and yea i get that he's supposed to just look scary but be a good soft boy but
Ash!!1
he doesn't even look tough or scary!!!
cabbage?
yeah
cabbage?
tfw i love him cuz he's cute (personality) but hew could be so much cuter* (design)
Ash!!1
WAIT I THINK I KNOW WHAT IT IS
Ash!!1
HE'S JUST TSUME BUT BAD
Ash!!1
FUCK
cabbage?
* - cute handsome interesting whatever
Mote ✧
They wanted him to look a little baby since he’s youngest
Mote ✧
I wonder if there’s wolves in one of the Disney Sea attractions or something.
Ash!!1
I feel like fans would have dug that up by now if thats the case
Ash!!1
aint no fans crazier or more devoted than disney fans
Ash!!1
he also doesn't look super baby to me either but i thought that was the point, gap moe and all that
Ash!!1
but no i just want to punch him
Ash!!1
if given the choice between dunking him or ortho in a toilet for a swirly i'd have to think real hard,,
Ash!!1
like i do not like robo ortho's design at ALL but that's not an unpopular opinion
Ash!!1
jack is just a tragedy
cabbage?
im not gonna lie my first instinct was 'imagine the steam from giving ortho a swirly' cuz his hair is like a bunsen burner or some shit
Ash!!1
it'd be worth it
cabbage?
tbh i cant even argue as i, aj, 'ha im safe i dont even like his design'
cabbage?
never have i eaten my words with as much vigor as i have recently
cabbage?
(but also someone please solve the mystery of jack)
Ash!!1
someone solve the fucking mystery of jack!!!
Ash!!1
if he ends up having a pivotal role or reason for existing i'll gladly eat my words
Ash!!1
I'm also like points at Sam
Ash!!1
YOU KNOW HOW TO DESIGN COOL DARK SKINNED CHARACTERS
Ash!!1
WHY IS JACK LIKE THIS
Ash!!1
https://images.plurk.com/7KuQ27Vn9D7My2E6vpC7x6.png this twink gonna steal my liver and then sell it. good for him.
Ain'tpril
I'm very mad he's not a jackal
Ain'tpril
A jackal would make sense?? With the Savanah dorm???
Ain'tpril
You know where doesn't have all white wolves
Ain'tpril
The Savanah
Ain'tpril
It's so baffling too because I feel like the rest of the characters all have a clear Disney they're supposed to be
Mote ✧
It IS confusing when not canon familiar, but he doesn't come from the savannah, he's just sorted to the dorm themed after Lion King. His hometown is actually a snowy northern place.
a girl in love
Ain'tpril : I don't know if this is an improvement or a demerit but the rest of the characters do not all have a clear Disney they're supposed to be.
a girl in love
Ortho and half of Diasomnia are a fuck
Mote ✧
I guess you could theorize he's a wolf from beauty and the beast??
Mote ✧
that is the correct environment I guess
a girl in love
Mote ✧ : oh that's true
a girl in love
I'd say 'wouldn't his name be French then' but you know who doesn't have a French name? Rook Hunt,
a girl in love
god Sam's design is so good
Mote ✧
you know who does come from the savannah? rook hun--
Ash!!1
You'd think he'd speak French too
Usagi
rises in here to whisper
hes a call of the wild reference
sinks back to the abyss
Ash!!1
But for Mals minions I figured they're all based on her little goblin dudes
a girl in love
Mote ✧ : THAT'S ALSO TRUE ,,
Ash!!1
And just spiced up with fae lore
a girl in love
they are not based on her little goblin dudes
Usagi
iirc sebek might be a combo of lightning and the lil dudes actually
one of m is a croc lookin guy and well
gestures to how Sebek is
also his name
Ash!!1
Mote ✧ : rook at least makes sense as a hunter and might be a Tarzan ref in addition to the huntsman--!!
a girl in love
Silver is based on a combo of the spinning wheel/the prince's sword and Sebek is based on a combo of Maleficent's lightning/a crocodile from some obscure show that I know nothing abou oh ok
Usagi
ahahahaha
a girl in love
Silver is not based on her little goblin dudes.
a girl in love
I don't remember what Lilia is based off of.
Ash!!1
Yes they still have very direct design clues
Ash!!1
But not fucking jack!!!
Usagi
call of the wild is by jack london and involves a white wolf but yeh its not near as direct u_u
a girl in love
Usagi : I HAVE HEARD THE CALL OF THE WILD THING BUT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE MOVIE
a girl in love
DO YOU HAVE VISUAL REFERENCES
Usagi
Hahahahaha
i can grab the wiki page but like I said its a very obscure deal. very odd pick for a character over all!
Usagi
so heres the movie page

books obvs way older but you can see from the timing alone why its like TWST WHAT??
Ash!!1
Usagi : that still makes no sense cuz the novel has nothing to do with Disney!!
Ash!!1
The Disney version didn't come out til 2020 iirc
Ash!!1
Twist was in production long before then
a girl in love
huh
Usagi
indeed but here we are
that aside I swore there was an earlier disney property because fun fact!
Nin is Tired
I'm just here to popcorn about the rage
Usagi
i have never seen the 2020 page until now
a girl in love
I wonder if it was meant to be like a marketing thing for the movie adaptation
Usagi
that could tie in? :0a
Ash!!1
You would think there would be promotions tho, and again, Disney fans would be all over it
Ash!!1
So I am p sure this is coincidence
a girl in love
YEAH LIKE IF IT WERE MEANT AS A MARKETING THING
a girl in love
SURELY THERE WOULD BE MARKETING AROUND IT.
a girl in love
but Idk
a girl in love
so many things about twst's development make no sense to me
Nin is Tired
Disney picks the most obvious things to promo and then Jack all about others, though
Ash!!1
Yea but why would they do so with their hot money lion franchise
Ash!!1
Leona would obviously overshadow jack
Ash!!1
So that makes zero sense
Ash!!1
Anyway this is more evidence why Jack is the Worst
Usagi
cries because i love him
Ash!!1
Ok yea I checked days, twst released in March 2020 in Japan and was not localized for English til 2022
Ash!!1
Call of the wild released in America in Feb 2020 an there's no record I could find of it outside of NA due to [u know] so yea I'm am 100% sure that's coincidence now
Ash!!1
Usagi : you may love him I would simply beat him up if I saw him irl
Usagi
NOOOOOOOO
Usagi
anyway I swear there was another call of the wild property Disney had...Way before that, if google would listen but really that doesn't change anything because that is still obscure and vague as hell
Ash!!1
Are you thinking of white fang maybe. Did Disney buy the rights to that
Usagi
did they............THEY HAVE SO MANY THINGS
Usagi
White Fang would also track though...he does have a lil tooth necklace on top of the woof mode...
Ash!!1
https://images.plurk.com/lmMiZQZkGtKKYkptFmJ4c.png also by jack London this guy love wolves
Ash!!1
That I could maybe buy but regardless, your hair is stupid jack, get out
Usagi
IT MIGHT BE THAT I MIXED UP WHITE FANG WITH CALL OF THE WILD LBR

White Fang then....he do love wolves

anyway
CRIES

LISTEN ASH
IM A YGO LIKER WEIRD HAIR IS MY JAM!!!
Usagi
*stupid hair
Ash!!1
Still no sense since it's not animated and doesn't have any real villains but, shruggo!!
Ash!!1
Yu-Gi-Oh hair is less offensive
Ash!!1
You walk into ygo for a wild time
Ash!!1
Jack is a slap in the face
Ash!!1
Gawd it's 1am
Ash!!1
When a character is such a disappointment he gives u insomnia smh
a girl in love
OH WHITE FANG MAKES MORE SENSE
a girl in love
as a former ygo fanartist Jack's hair is worse because it's not trying to be bad
Usagi
WHEEEEEEZE
shiny。
It is most likely White Fang, and twst does make some references to Live Action properties and even Marvel stuff
shiny。
Like the whole dance sequence in the Aladdin dorm event is from the live action Aladdin
Usagi
golly...
needlemancer
the wolf hair. (skull)
vast energies
jack's design is really ugly and so i ignore him so utterly i've forgotten he exists. it's to the point where i start to get jumpscared whenever he gets new cards
vast energies
ITS JUST LIKE. THERE WERE MORE DISNEY VILLAINS YOU COULDA GONE FOR BEFORE 'maybe this is the big bad wolf/white fang/balto/those wolves from that 1 scene of beauty and th beast i guess?'
vast energies
shere khan for one thing.
vast energies
coulda done a tiger boy.
vast energies
coulda done a wildebeest boy. they were in the lion king
vast energies
2 hyenas. scar had 3 of them anyway
ROCKET BOOTS
Where are the other 2 hyenas huh!!! Where is Whoopie Goldberg Bishounen!!! And also. Idk make the crazy one yandere
Ash!!1
wakes up for doctor's appt, makes time to continue to rag on jack--
Ash!!1
YEAH WHY COULDN'T LEONA JUST HAVE A BUNCH OF HYENA BROS
vast energies
if you wanted a dogboy you could have put cerberus on ignihyde
Ash!!1
AZUL GETS LITERAL TWINS
vast energies
just give leona 3 hyenas
Ash!!1
vast energies : HONESTLY yea the fact that cerberus isn't on ignihyde is baffling
Ash!!1
'ash ortho is cerberu--' shut the fuck up
Ash!!1
i refuse to accept that because that means there are TWO awful dog boy designs
vast energies
they did doggify ortho but i feel like they could also have made an actual cerberus character
Ash!!1
shiny。 : SEE THATS THE THING THO, FOR EVERYONE ELSE, THEY'RE JUST WINK AND NOD FUN REFFERENCES. But they decided that jack is a whole ass character. LA disney remake refs at least had the animated base first, and Marvels have villains
Ash!!1
there are so many animals in disney canon. SO MANY and yet 'what if white fang'
vast energies
IF it's white fang
Ash!!1
if!!!
Ash!!1
basically there's no angle where jack makes sense lmao
Ash!!1
if they pull some good story lore out in the future with him i'll gladly eat my hat
Ash!!1
but unlikely lolo
vast energies
cuz first of all white fang is a husky wolf mix iirc and second he's clearly a protagonist and also spends several chapters as a bloody dog gladiator
vast energies
which idk if disney making that first pull for the anime boys game is like
Ash!!1
it would be dark as fuck if he was actually old yeller
vast energies
i don't know if that can be assumed to be what happened-- NDJDHDKSNDHDIFNSKFHD
vast energies
he's cujo from stephen king's cujo
Ash!!1
he's not cool enough to be cujo
ROCKET BOOTS
O. Old Yeller bishounen.
ROCKET BOOTS
Yeller
vast energies
also it is actually genuinely weird that he's not a lion king character. i realize things are ~a little twisted~ but also he is the literal only character who is just explicitly NOT pulled from the movie their dorm is based on in that case
vast energies
it's not like octavinelle randomly has moana on it
Ash!!1
a wildebeest/non predator boy that was still badass would have been really cool tbh
Ash!!1
and con still count as villain given [mufasa]
vast energies
like ignihyde has some mixed up stuff like [idia and ortho are both hades and ortho is also a dead soul and also they are elsa and anna and hiro and baymax at the same time] but
Ash!!1
but the lion king also has a WHOLE ASS SPIN OFF SHOW with tons more villains. INCLUDING JACKALS.
Ash!!1
so sob
vast energies
they're not like [I DONT EVEN KNOW WHY THIS ONE IS HERE]
Ash!!1
y
vast energies
he's not necessarily a bad character and i know he has lots of fans cuz he's got a cute personality but i feel like. he stands out so bad because
vast energies
everyone asks 'where was the wolf in the lion king'
Ash!!1
oh yeah i'm sure his character is fine, esp with the cute soff personality he has
vast energies
and then the answer is like 'well not all the dorms are strictly based on the movies and jack is actually [balto or whatever] and he just GOES there'
Ash!!1
but unfortunately his design is just pbbbbbbbbt
vast energies
but it's like wait jack is literally the only chara we have to say that abt
Ash!!1
also way back re Mal's minions designs even tho i hate them since they look like flight attendants i ALSO give them some slack cuz Sleeping Beauty is an old movie with very few things to work with
Ash!!1
AND YET THEY STILL MANAGED IT, SOMEHOW
Ash!!1
VS JACK HERE!!!
a girl in love
Sleeping Beauty is an old movie with few things to work with but they have four people while Ignihyde which actually has like 17 extra antagonist entities to pick from has two people and one of them is ???
a girl in love
so I do not forgive Diasomnia either.
Ain'tpril
Mad every day we don't have little matching neon eboys pain and panic
vast energies
WHY DONT WE!!! THEY WOULD HAVE SUCKED SO BAD (positive)
pepperpie
when i first saw this guy. i remember going "oh like a jackal? okay i guess... sure..." but hes a WOLF?
pepperpie
?????????????
Colorless Juice
What a terrible wolf design. Also missed opportunity to have a maned wolf...
Colorless Juice
oh wait maned wolves are from South America. I thought Africa.
vast energies
he's a wolf
vast energies
the more egregious thing to me than not being a savanna based animal is that nobody is especially sure or confident in which disney reference he is
vast energies
you look at azul and know in seconds that bitch is ursula
Ash!!1
Yea the fact that you can go 'oh surely its x' at most of the others, even if wrong, is like
Ash!!1
the FUCK are you doing here jack
Ash!!1
i agree tho its wild Pain and Panic aren't at hing
Ash!!1
Azul got two cronies! Why not Idia!
a girl in love
you don't even have to look at Azul you can close your eyes and still be like "why is Ursula's voice actress in this game"
vast energies
i think possibly the reason why not idia is BECAUSE azul did
vast energies
but ignihyde is weird
Ash!!1
they coulda still had two sidekicks and then idia's like [still builds my brother, who can stop me, no one]
vast energies
yea it's just that ignihyde is so weird that the entire ignihyde chapter takes place hundreds of miles away from the school
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