JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 12:55 AM
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:12 AM
GeneralTrash
that is also the legit canon answer
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:12 AM
'Humans look like us' or 'Humans took after us'
GeneralTrash
@GeneralTrash
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:24 AM
which is very interesting especially in the way it is pinging for tanya, who has personal beef with a cosmic being from her own setting
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:24 AM
oh man
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:24 AM
well you know
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:24 AM
its just their way to explain the obvious thing
GeneralTrash
@GeneralTrash
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:24 AM
like a lot of what he said there is simultaneously ringing every alarm bell she has but also showing her how much he is NOT like being X
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:25 AM
;3;
GeneralTrash
@GeneralTrash
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:25 AM
just the fact that he clearly dislikes "have to be" is making her more positively inclined towards him
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:25 AM
so originally in 1963
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:25 AM
The Doctor and his granddaugher were supposed to be from the 43rd century
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:25 AM
but they cut that because too specific
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:25 AM
so the line instead is "I was born on another world" from Susan
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:26 AM
but outside of that it took quite a while to get around to stuff
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:26 AM
we dont have what The Doctor is actually till the 2nd Doctor's run
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:26 AM
at the very, very end
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:27 AM
which brings up to 1969
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:27 AM
when we have the word Time Lords
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:27 AM
and into 1976 when they finally world build on Time Lords
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:28 AM
oh he really doesn't like fixed stuff
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:28 AM
but I like those stories were he's supposed to walk away
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:28 AM
because its completely against his nature too
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:29 AM
its also why - in theory
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:29 AM
The Doctor never goes to Miracle Day
GeneralTrash
@GeneralTrash
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:30 AM
he is such a guy
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:30 AM
the fixed point this is a NuWho thing
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:30 AM
but it does make sense to be honest
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:30 AM
because certain things did make other things happen
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:30 AM
like WW 2 pushed the SPace Race
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:31 AM
because sadly; no one learns from stuff not happening
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:31 AM
the one that really hurts is Pompii
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:31 AM
omg
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:31 AM
he finds out that hes the one who makes it a fixed point
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:32 AM
because he has to choose between Pompii or the whole world
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:32 AM
they're good at making the Tardis somehow disappear so he cant just turn back and leave
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:32 AM
which he does at the start of that epsiode actually
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:33 AM
He sniffs it out and then he's like nope we shouldnt be here and turns to leave and Tardis is gone
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:34 AM
but in canon he can see; 'all that is, will be, could be and should be and mustnt be'
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:34 AM
which for obvious reasons you cant do in a game setting
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:35 AM
but in canon he has an universe onimverse look on it
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:35 AM
BUT
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:35 AM
not his own timeline
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:35 AM
so he doesnt know how he will regenerente or meet ahead of time
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:36 AM
its a very more big picture of how the universe should be in this part of it; at this time
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:37 AM
That said he can still math stuff; that none of us can
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:37 AM
Math that we dont even have to be honest
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:38 AM
his math has 4th and 5th dimensions in it
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:38 AM
maybe more
GeneralTrash
@GeneralTrash
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:39 AM
the forbidden math
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:39 AM
yes XD
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:39 AM
but yeah; they didnt write stuff out in 1963
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:39 AM
the pitch for the show is literally one sentence
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:39 AM
they made stuff up for quite a long time and kept building on it over the years
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:40 AM
like I said we didnt have the word Time Lord till 1969
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:42 AM
its a show where Lore builds on itself over the years
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:42 AM
and tries to connect itself
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:42 AM
Im not opening the box of Timeless Children
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:43 AM
that aside; its about continuing the Lore that came before somehow
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:43 AM
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:43 AM
and up to the Timeless Children; actually did
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:44 AM
Im just - I went on about this like last week with Luna when we watched
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:44 AM
so I dont really want too again
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:45 AM
but Moffat for all his faults
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:45 AM
at least built onto the Lore from before
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:46 AM
it was a show that wasnt made to be this popular or last this long
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:46 AM
and it was the early days of TV so any good idea was put on
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:46 AM
its not like today where you come in with literally everything mapped and planned out
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:46 AM
you really have too with stuff now adays there is no openess like this anymore
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:47 AM
everything is very has to be in your binder of pages
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:47 AM
Has to be
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:47 AM
and idk if you saw us watch an Adventure in Space and Time
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:48 AM
But man there is a lot that they didnt plan about
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:48 AM
and it would just NOT today with that
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:48 AM
GeneralTrash
like originally they wanted the Space-time machine to change in every new adventure setting
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:48 AM
but they didnt have that kind of budget
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:49 AM
so they picked a thing that would look weird on the moon, etc
GeneralTrash
@GeneralTrash
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:49 AM
i think some of the most interesting bits of lore in things come from the creators running against the budget and needing to improvise
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:49 AM
oh yeah
GeneralTrash
@GeneralTrash
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:49 AM
or writers having to make things make sense with older lore without relying on retcons
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:49 AM
the Tardis wouldnt be iconic otherwise
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:50 AM
it would be something every new story
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:50 AM
and you wouldnt remember that now would you?
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:51 AM
and the console top; the raw version is a bunch of stuff you'd find in a sewing basket
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:51 AM
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:51 AM
the pre production version ^
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:52 AM
it was a few things of thread Strolls and idk what the metal thing is called
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:52 AM
not a thimble but it was like a thimble
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:52 AM
it was to keep your palm safe and you could put needles in it
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:54 AM
BUT YES The forbidden math
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:54 AM
thats why he's cautious about how much he knows
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:54 AM
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:54 AM
he's seen time weaponized :x
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:55 AM
so yeah
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:55 AM
alwaysbeenasmiler
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 1:56 AM
and he does not want to see time weaponized ever again
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:09 AM
GeneralTrash
appreciate the challengeing questions btw
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:09 AM
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:17 AM
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:15 AM
and hold that thought I spelled something wrong Im sorry
GeneralTrash
@GeneralTrash
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:15 AM
no worries!!
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:16 AM
ty and fixed
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:23 AM
but yeah genetic engineering aside
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:23 AM
certain atoms will only bond on their own in certain ways
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:23 AM
before repeating
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:24 AM
we all have eyes for the same reason
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:24 AM
there are variations on the eyes but we all have eyes for a reason
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:25 AM
and it all forms in the same place for the same reason
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:26 AM
theres a reason you dont have eyes on your butt XD
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:28 AM
that said there is also a lot of human/alien breeding but they're not at that point in the time line
GeneralTrash
@GeneralTrash
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:29 AM
yeah i think thats one of the more satisfying brand of explanations that exists out there in sci-fi
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:29 AM
:3
GeneralTrash
@GeneralTrash
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:29 AM
there are only so many ways to make something that can walk efficiently and grab things
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:29 AM
oh I just made that up XD
GeneralTrash
@GeneralTrash
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:30 AM
its really good!
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:30 AM
he's science
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:30 AM
and again there is breeding which is science even if its sci fi science
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:30 AM
but its logical sense if it were real
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:32 AM
there's only so many ways the same base elements can re-arrange without genetic engineering
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:33 AM
which are what Daleks are ^
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@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:34 AM
and he has implied that everything is just star stuff
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:35 AM
there is some reason science in this show XD
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:38 AM
and he is from an earlier part of the universe; his people
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:40 AM
anyways Im rambling and need to go to bed
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:41 AM
and idk if you've seen Cosmos
but Earth and humans exist on December 31st on the Cosmic calendar
and we do know that other beings existed before humans too in that universe
SO given what Cosmos has told us; about the universe calendar makes sense
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:43 AM
The Cosmic Calendar | Cosmos: Possible Worlds
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:44 AM
and again we're existing on December 31st
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:48 AM
and you all dont think theres real science in this show
JingleBells
@weefolk
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 2:48 AM
there's a lot that really matches real science
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but Earth and humans exist on December 31st on the Cosmic calendar
and we do know that other beings existed before humans too in that universe
SO given what Cosmos has told us; about the universe calendar makes sense