megadoomer
I'm continuing Doctor Who with "The Family Of Blood".
c_for_characters
A pretty well done two parter that was, originally, a novel of the 7th Doctor //end trivia
Vincent Gogh
beat me XD
megadoomer
The actor for the son of this alien family is REALLY hamming it up haha.
megadoomer
It feels a little weird to see the Doctor aiming a gun at someone.
Vincent Gogh
he's actually the voice actor of Ferb in Phineas and Ferb
Vincent Gogh
Thomas Sangster
megadoomer
Watching John Smith come to terms with the fact that he has to sacrifice his personality to bring back the Doctor is heartbreaking.
Vincent Gogh
yes ;3;
megadoomer
The ultimate fate of the family of aliens is horrifying.
Vincent Gogh
mmmm
Vincent Gogh
so Blink is a standalone
Vincent Gogh
and then the last 3 are altogether
megadoomer
The Doctor says "everything John Smith was, I'm capable of it too", but I doubt it. (He doesn't seem like the type to settle down in one place for too long)
Vincent Gogh
there's actually an AU of that in a game
Vincent Gogh
its just - that would make for boring TV
Vincent Gogh
and we - dont know how long he was there in Day of The Doctor but it was awhile
Vincent Gogh
before and after
Vincent Gogh
he went on a honeymoon so it was awhile ^
Vincent Gogh
but yeah 10 is capable if he wants too
Vincent Gogh
and 11 too I would debate
Vincent Gogh
but when you hit Day of The Doctor you'll see what I mean
Vincent Gogh
but yeah; he really got tempted by those father visions
Vincent Gogh
;3;
megadoomer
The next disc has these episodes:
-Blink
-Utopia
-The Sound of Drums
-Last of the Time Lords
-Voyage of the Damned

Voyage of the Damned appears to be a special of some kind, since the disc listed it separately from the others.
Vincent Gogh
yes that is the Christmas special
Vincent Gogh
again Blink is stand alone
megadoomer
I was expecting something light-hearted before the finale, but nope, it's the Weeping Angels! (I do not like jumpscares so this episode might be rough haha)
Vincent Gogh
and Utopia/The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords are all together
Vincent Gogh
just dont watch that one when its dark out
megadoomer
I'm only vaguely aware of the Master, but from what little I know of him, I'm guessing he appears in that trio of episodes. (I was wondering when he'd show up - he was one of the only big Who villains that I knew of going into this show, along with the Daleks and Cybermen)
c_for_characters
Utopia is, to my mind, the single best episode new who has ever done. Perfectly acted, great surprise twist at the time...and they properly answered the question of "who can we get with the gravitas to reintroduce the character of Delgado, Ainley, and Beevor et al"
c_for_characters
It is a school of fine acting and he just overshadows the entire cast with such subtlety and grace.
megadoomer
Good to know!
megadoomer
I didn't realize the Weeping Angels sent people through time - I thought they just killed people. (Though it explains why the Doctor isn't helping directly)
megadoomer
If the Doctor's conversation with the camera isn't an Easter Egg on this DVD, like it is on the DVDs in the episode, then I'll be a little disappointed.
Vincent Gogh
depends what DVDS you have
Vincent Gogh
there's also a Family of Blood easter egg too
Vincent Gogh
with a longer thing of dialogue with the instructions
megadoomer
Classic timey-wimey detector (it goes ding when there's stuff!)
c_for_characters
Is that the one where he has to make up the fast forward dialogue? Which is hilarious.
megadoomer
I'm guessing that, since the Doctor is directly involved in these events, he can't just bring the angels' victims back to their own times when he gets the TARDIS back.
megadoomer
Alternatively, it would probably cause a time paradox.
megadoomer
https://images.plurk.com/1EUKZCOHzsPv4jAbACGLb6.jpg this is the set that I have; not sure if it would have the Easter Eggs or not.
Vincent Gogh
no
Vincent Gogh
you dont get extras in that set :x
Vincent Gogh
and you are correct
Vincent Gogh
it would cause a time paradox
megadoomer
This scene in the basement is just unsettling. (Where every time the light blinks off, the angels get closer)
megadoomer
I love the moments where episodes show the Doctor in the middle of an adventure with no context for what's going on. (Like Martha carrying a bow and arrow or Rose throwing a bucket of water on an alien)
Vincent Gogh
:-)
Vincent Gogh
I just found out that he learned the bow and arrow in his 3rd life
Vincent Gogh
also that monkey face is a 4 face
Vincent Gogh
that he did ^
megadoomer
I feel like Jack Harkness clinging to the TARDIS as it travels through time can't be good for him. (Also, I can't remember the last time I saw him - might have been the finale of 9?)
megadoomer
At least I think it's Jack Harkness.
Vincent Gogh
yes XD
megadoomer
Are they going to explain how Jack's immortal? (I don't remember that being the case in 9's run, but it's been a while)
Vincent Gogh
yes yes they will
megadoomer
Haha surprised we even got a flashback to the Doctor losing his hand in a Christmas swordfight - I figured they'd just mention it and move on.
MooseChangerPat
Oh that hand is pretty important xD
MooseChangerPat
Also Jack had his own series Torchwood that tied in with this.
Vincent Gogh
yes the epsiode before sorta does
megadoomer
Going by the sound of drums and Professor Yana's eye visibly twitching when he sees the TARDIS, I feel like this isn't going to end well.
megadoomer
Is Torchwood worth watching? It'll probably be a while before I get to it (it's taken me this long to get through a few seasons of Doctor Who), but I only kind of know what it's about.
Vincent Gogh
its good but its very adult
Vincent Gogh
like there's blood and everything in it
Vincent Gogh
its Jacks team protecting the Earth
Vincent Gogh
its blood, sex and fighting
megadoomer
The situation with the mutant sneaking into the human compound went better than I expected - it's still bad, but I figured they would sneak on to the rocket and slaughter everyone.
megadoomer
I thought "fixed points in time" referred to events that can't be changed since they'd screw up the timeline (used to justify why the Doctor can't stop real world historical tragedies and the like). Didn't realize that it could be describing a person. (in this case, Jack)
megadoomer
Though I'm assuming that it's less "Jack can never die" and more "Jack can't die until he does a certain thing".
megadoomer
Did not expect the watch from the 1913 episodes to become a plot point now.
MooseChangerPat
They do a great job of tying things together here
MooseChangerPat
Also I feel Torchwood is way darker than Doctor Who... and kind of depressing.
Vincent Gogh
yuuup
megadoomer
Professor Yana's actor has such sad-looking eyes.
megadoomer
Well, there it is. (I wonder what the Master's going to do with the Doctor's hand, though maybe it will get him into the TARDIS)
c_for_characters
Derek Jacobi - one of the most accomplished living actors, period. His Yana/Master is such a masterpiece in characterization.
megadoomer
I haven't seen much of his roles, from what I can tell. (Though he was in Gladiator)
megadoomer
So THAT'S where this gif comes from. https://imgs.plurk.com/QD1/Kwr/VNjdfLvEH1LiGpfR5TaZFhRpMvs_lg.gif Saw it in the episode preview.
megadoomer
Martha's sister can't help but accidentally work for bad guys, huh?
megadoomer
Not sure if the Master wants the Doctor to thwart him or he's just extremely confident. (Given his speech about "What this country really needs is a Doctor")
c_for_characters
(Basically, if you see Jacobi in it, it's gonna be good, and this is a rule that stretches back to the 70s
megadoomer
Are the floating spheres that the Master summons something that he always has (like his equivalent of the Sonic Screwdriver) or something new for this?
c_for_characters
They're new.
c_for_characters
And horrifying.
megadoomer
The Master has a flair for the dramatic, given that he strapped an almost cartoonish stick of dynamite to the back of Martha's TV.
megadoomer
How can Time Lords die? I figured that, when they die, they just regenerate.
megadoomer
Unless Dalek weapons can kill them permanently.
c_for_characters
There's a number of weapons that can kill them permanently.
c_for_characters
And regeneration can be thrown off.
megadoomer
The Master makes a comment about how he sent Jack's little gang on a wild goose chase to the Himalayas, so I take it that's referring to Torchwood.
Vincent Gogh
yes
megadoomer
The Master's weirdly obsessed with Teletubbies haha
c_for_characters
That's a reference to Classic Who, as it happens. :-P
megadoomer
Going by the Doctor's reaction when Martha brings it up, I'm guessing that "the Doctor's mysterious brother is the Master" was a long-running fan theory.
megadoomer
Did not realize that the Time Lords are basically the Watchers. (At least under normal circumstances)
c_for_characters
Story goes that back in the 70s, they were gonna reveal the Master was the Doctor and the Master were brothers, but then Roger Delgado (the original Master) died in a car crash and the plans were shelved.
c_for_characters
Occasionally to be teased thereafter with newer iterations.
megadoomer
This is the second British thing I've seen in about as many weeks where Air Force One plays a role in the plot. (The first being Perfect Dark)
megadoomer
Good to know! I'll watch that video (and look up some scenes of the Delgado Master) when I'm done.
megadoomer
https://images.plurk.com/1HWl547NBGHVahrL8Kg0Lw.jpg The Valiant is literally just the SHIELD Helicarrier.
c_for_characters
Haha yeah, kinda. :-P (Also hope you don't mind the explanatory notes I drop, I should've asked about that sooner.)
megadoomer
And of course, America immediately tries to take credit for everything. (Given that the US President wants the symbols of the Presidency there instead of the UN's symbol)
megadoomer
Yeah, I've seen them - sorry I haven't responded much, since I'm watching the episode.
Vincent Gogh
its okay :-)
Vincent Gogh
oh oh
Vincent Gogh
watch that because its cut from the US version due to the song
c_for_characters
Oh no worries on not responding, I just wanted to make sure they weren't unwelcome in general :-)
Vincent Gogh
but thats the real opening
Vincent Gogh
it opens with the Master dancing to a song
megadoomer
One news anchor says "it's 3 AM in the morning" - not sure if that's an intentional joke or not haha.
megadoomer
I'm definitely fine with any comments you want to make! (Also, I feel like the writers misunderstood the term "President Elect" when they had the US President refer to himself as that)
megadoomer
The Master feels like this series' version of the Joker, given how it feels like whoever is playing him has the opportunity to overact their heart out. (Not to mention the apparent obsession with their respective nemeses that borders on flirting on the villain's end)
megadoomer
Well, that's certainly a cliffhanger - it's seemingly up to Martha to stop an invasion of 6 billion sphere-like robots that just casually killed 1/10 of Earth's population.
megadoomer
That "One Year Later" text hit me about as hard as a similar piece of text in Avengers Endgame.
c_for_characters
Yeah you're not wrong with the Master.
megadoomer
I have a sudden urge to see the Doctor interact with Doctor Doom from Marvel - not sure if Doom would be infuriated by the Doctor or try to take over his body, though I'm guessing Time Lords have a defense against that sort of thing. (Probably both, if I had to guess)
Vincent Gogh
yes
Vincent Gogh
they're very high telepathics
megadoomer
Martha Jones has become a living legend, though I'm guessing all of this will be undone with time travel (likely the Paradox Machine being modified somehow to make it possible), given that it's implied that everyone in Japan is dead, among other things.
megadoomer
It feels like a similar moment in other series, where all of this is too big of a change. (Though I'm guessing they'll only be able to undo up to the point where the rift in the sky opened and the Toclafane came pouring out)
megadoomer
Speaking of which, I'm trying to figure out what the Toclafane are - I'm guessing they're not the consciousness of the Time Lords stuck in metal spheres, since the Master didn't know that Gallifrey was destroyed.
megadoomer
It is playing "I Can't Decide", for what it's worth.
Vincent Gogh
yeah but you dont get the dance with the music because of copyright
Vincent Gogh
its the lytics
megadoomer
https://images.plurk.com/5eoUFyDoaXWDKxbbVEdczG.jpg When nine hundred years old you be, look as good you will not!
Vincent Gogh
more than 900
Vincent Gogh
maybe 2000?
megadoomer
Oh God, they just revealed what the Toclafane are.
megadoomer
megadoomer
The Master seems weirdly eager to get shot in the face.
megadoomer
Putting the Master in the TARDIS seemed like it would be a plan that would backfire horribly in thousands of different ways, so it's a good thing that Lucy Saxon shot him.
megadoomer
Can Time Lords regenerate even if their body's burned to ashes? Obviously, the Master's death won't stick.
c_for_characters
The Master has cheated permanent death a couple times before.
c_for_characters
He's, aha, a master of...alternative means of survival.
megadoomer
Jack Harkness is the Face of Boe?!
Vincent Gogh
Yup
megadoomer
Surprised that Martha's actually leaving. (Also, I feel like each of 10's seasons ending with something random appearing in the TARDIS and he can only react with "what?" will be a running gag - last time it was Donna, and this time, it's the Titanic)
megadoomer
I think I'll stop here - I've been watching Doctor Who for most of the afternoon/evening. Time just flew by!
Vincent Gogh
There's a Children in Need short if you want to watch that; its at this point
Vincent Gogh
?
Vincent Gogh
Vincent Gogh
if you're interested but thats what is in-between this and Voyage of The Damned
megadoomer
Thanks! I'll watch it; I assume that the person that Tennant's facing in the preview image is a former Doctor, going by the question mark on his collar.
Vincent Gogh
yes
c_for_characters
His father in law, now :-P
c_for_characters
Because Whovians marry and make little Whovians, probably.
Vincent Gogh
yuuuuup
Vincent Gogh
5 actually
Vincent Gogh
there's a lot of grandkids
megadoomer
I take it Tennant's a big fan of this Doctor, going by his reaction. (also, I like that they have a built-in explanation for this being the same Doctor despite him looking older)
c_for_characters
(And one of my favourite companion actors, Caroline John, married one of the Masters and they were married for 42 years until her death...and her daughter has played her mother's character, because Who be like that. Generational Show.)
Vincent Gogh
I know David was a big fan of Tom Baker
Vincent Gogh
Im not sure if he was of Peter before he married his kid
megadoomer
"And look at me, I'm wearing a vegetable!"
Vincent Gogh
yuuuup
Vincent Gogh
XD
megadoomer
The mention of Belgium makes me think of how it's the most horrible swear word in the universe in the Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy.
c_for_characters
Is this your first time seeing Five?
megadoomer
Love how casual the Doctor is about all of this. "Cybermen and Mara and (something) in funny hats and the Master? Oh, he just showed up again - same as ever."
megadoomer
Yep - I haven't seen much of any of the Doctors beyond what I've watched on DVD, which is just 9 and the first two seasons of 10. (aside from a clip from when the 10th and 11th Doctors meet)
c_for_characters
Babelcolour Tribute - Peter Davison
A little taste, then, if you're interested. Alas, the vocals have been cut to avoid copyright strikes.
megadoomer
Thanks!
c_for_characters
And, for fun, since you're here now...
The Master -When You're Evil
megadoomer
Yeah, that comment about how 5 was "[his] Doctor" makes me think that, at the very least, Tennant grew up watching the 5th Doctor. (since it made me think of how people talk about their James Bond or their Batman - for me, it's Pierce Brosnan and Michael Keaton, respectively)
Vincent Gogh
Thats an amazing video ^
Vincent Gogh
in the best-worst way
megadoomer
Thanks! I'll get caught up on those videos now.
megadoomer
The Master looks so disappointed that he's just watching a puppet show haha
c_for_characters
"Ugh, humans" being the vibe, yeah :-P
Vincent Gogh
what did you think of what you watched?
megadoomer
The episodes are great! I'm a little lost on some of the last two videos (not sure if the Fifth Doctor is goofier than the others or really obsessed with the sport of cricket - likely doesn't help that I know nothing about cricket), but I've got some free time this afternoon, so I think I'll watch Voyage Of The Damned to finish this disc.
Vincent Gogh
theres really a story where The Doctor plays Cricket
Vincent Gogh
its also why - John Smith was able to toss that ball so well to move that baby carriage
megadoomer
Is every special a Christmas episode?
Vincent Gogh
yes for RTD and Moffat, yes
megadoomer
Also, why would you build a spaceship called the Titanic? (I guess they aren't aware of Earth's history, but most of the people on here are human (or at least look human) and they're following Earth traditions)
megadoomer
I'm guessing Max Capricorn knew the significance of the name and he wants the ship to sink for some nefarious reason.
megadoomer
Haha I love how at this point, everyone figures they should leave London at Christmas given how the past few have gone.
megadoomer
I find it funny that the Doctor was indirectly responsible for Jesus being born in a manger. (The Doctor said that he was there and he took the last room)
Vincent Gogh
thats a refe to a story that never happened but was going to with 1st Doctor
megadoomer
I know it's after a sad/dramatic moment, but the angel robots lifting their hands in the air Superman-style as they fly the Doctor up to the bridge got a laugh out of me.
Vincent Gogh
XD
megadoomer
"And as the sun rises, it seems as though Great Britain has escaped alien attack this Christmas." You fools!
megadoomer
Good thing he didn't crash into Buckingham Palace, or else yet another member of the British monarchy would declare him to be their arch-nemesis.
megadoomer
Looks like the next season involves ancient Greece, Donna Noble becoming a full-time companion, and giant bees. There's a shot of someone's face that looks dramatic (they were very wrinkly, kind of greenish, and it only showed the eyes), but I'm not sure if it was meant to be hiding or hinting at something.
megadoomer
https://images.plurk.com/3XULii1EsbBhvwed6kVYjR.jpg on closer inspection, it wasn't as green as I thought.
c_for_characters
My one friend summarizes some of what the end of S3/start of S4 does as "Tinkerbell Jesus Doctor" and...they're not wrong, yeah :-P
megadoomer
Haha yeah, that part was a little cheesy, but it worked for me.
載入新的回覆