a girl in love
contemplating the unfortunate social interaction roulette in our circle wherein it's all text-based communication and large swaths of us have autism and/or adhd and/or anxiety/hypervigilance
a girl in love
so you get like
eyjaberry 🐑(🦁)
a girl in love
>person A tries very hard to hide that they are upset about a thing related to person B because they don't want to have a confrontation or upset anyone or make anyone feel bad but then just give off unexplained negative energy so person B is like what is going on
a girl in love
>person A tries to hint at a thing but person B has autism and does not pick up on it at all
a girl in love
>person A literally is not upset but maybe forgets something or something else innocuous and person B picks up on it as false flag negativity and lives in terror of what they did wrong
a girl in love
I AM PERSONALLY VERY BAD AT DEALING WITH "I FEEL LIKE THIS PERSON IS HAVING A PROBLEM BUT THEY HAVE NOT TOLD ME ANYTHING IS WRONG SO MAYBE I'M IMAGINING IT AND IF I BRING IT UP MAYBE I WILL CREATE AN ISSUE WHERE THERE LITERALLY WASN'T ONE PREVIOUSLY"
multiverse🌱dad
being too direct also reads as being unpleasant or hostile too
a girl in love
and I also worry a lot abt giving off negative energy/being hot and cold/whatever with ppl bc I do often have some brain fuckery getting in my way at random
a girl in love
Autumn Vasch
yea
Autumn Vasch
tho like, in defense of our social group
Autumn Vasch
i think to some degree this kinda shit happens in all groups, maybe not along those specific neurodivergencies as much but 'people not fucking understanding what someone else means to convey' and getting fussed about it and a big part of the specific stresses in this plurk is the
a girl in love
I always would like to talk things out directly and at length to make sure we are all clear and on the same page and I know what other ppl are thinking at any given time but that is NOT a thing everyone else is always equipped to do with me at any time
Autumn Vasch
deeply genuine desire i think most people have to be willing ot put in effort to understand and to adapt their behavior to be understood
a girl in love
Autumn Vasch : yeah def
Autumn Vasch
so we are all more aware of the issues cuz we are actively looking for them and trying to address them and BOY THERE ARE A LOT ACTUALLY
a girl in love
BY NO MEANS DO I MEAN LIKE "OUR CIRCLE IS UNIQUELY BAD." in fact I think in many ways we are way better at communicating than I observe among lots of normal people interactions.
Autumn Vasch
but ... it's good. the people here are good beans
Autumn Vasch
oh yeah I did not take it as you meant we are uniquely bad i just wanted to like
Autumn Vasch
put a positive spin on it
a girl in love
[watches 5 seconds of reality tv] neurotypicals y'all good?
angstspecialist
It's the danger with text based conversation. I advocate we all use Discord to talk on voice. XD
tandemarie
IT'S TRICKSY i'm in the one basket where it's so much easier for me to have rl conversations, bc i rely on social cues and voice tone and expressions So Much, both interpreting and providing, and also it's just easier to discuss things in person (for me)
tandemarie
online it's like
tandemarie
text and emotes only go so far
angstspecialist
I honestly think that would solve so many problems with tone...
a girl in love
angstspecialist : I have voice anxiety I would die ,
tandemarie
to express or give me an understanding of what's up
Autumn Vasch
i am 8000 more articulate in text than in voice
Autumn Vasch
i put all my stat points into talking online at age 11
a girl in love
Autumn Vasch : oh same
a girl in love
there ARE things that are a lot easier to talk out face to face sometimes
angstspecialist
I personally never have half the problems in voice that I do in text. You can't hide in voice.
Autumn Vasch
let's just perfect psychic communication
a girl in love
but voice-only communication isn't quite a substitute for that for me either... and also a 60-person voice call would delete me off the face of the planet
Ash!!1
I simply don't speak with my voice nor do I ever text chat anyone outside of plurk without specific reasoning or they are Ari. Checkmate, anxiety!!!
angstspecialist
lol okay 60+ voice maybe less....
Celizabeth Hood
i have so much rl anxiety over speaking because i stuttter and stumble words a lot so i make up for it by having a lot of online anxiety over speaking by using 1923123 emotes and overcorrecting myse-
a girl in love
I. have mild selective mutism so :' )
God of Brats
re: voice tone, i've been told i can't read tone for shit and people misinterpret my voice tone fucking constantly so it's like
God of Brats
lol lmao lolol the tism
God of Brats
there's a lot of tone indicators in text and i honestly wish that people would use tone indicators MORE in text
God of Brats
because if you just
God of Brats
like for example the hilarious and also extremely helpful using a lot of parenthesis'd fotenotes
God of Brats
people have been doing that a lot more and it's immensely helpful
God of Brats
the shortened tone indicators that originated on twitter are garbage though because no one knows what they fucking mean
angstspecialist
You know what. I think tone indicators for most social media is silly. But I could totally get down with them for RP communication.
angstspecialist
I like this idea!
God of Brats
i think tone indicators for most social media is actually really helpful especially because a lot of people on the internet like to use sarcasm or joke about things in such a way that they can sound serious
God of Brats
which, if you're just talking with your friends group and you know your friends group it's fine to not use them
God of Brats
but most social media is far-reaching to audiences you never expect to reach
God of Brats
and that's how we get absolute meltdowns to the tune of "so you're saying you hate waffles?"
God of Brats
to this day i cannot parse what anyone means when they call a stranger online bestie
God of Brats
is this genuine? are you being insulting? what is going on.
a girl in love
the first person I ever blocked on twitter was someone whose profile I went to and as I scrolled through their tweets I observed that they tweeted literally opposite opinions in a joking tone regularly
a girl in love
and I could not tell which side was supposed to be sarcastic
a girl in love
bye forever.
God of Brats
CRIES
eyjaberry 🐑(🦁)
i am so bad at formulating sentences and thoughts when i'm trying to talk with my voicebox,,,
eyjaberry 🐑(🦁)
text tone indicators best
God of Brats
text tone indicators are really good
God of Brats
in general i like to couch things that i'm saying with [this is what is going on in my brain and it's not a you thing it's a me thing] a lot because if i don't do that i'm terrified of being misunderstood
God of Brats
but also i have the cannot shut up disease so
God of Brats
god i will also say, deeply unfortunately, sometimes it simply does not matter how many indicators someone couches their statements in because my brain will simply convince myself they're lying to appease me for (???????? some reason????????) so sometimes it's a game i can't even win no one can win
God of Brats
at which point i have to just stop interacting for a while until i stop being insane
God of Brats
but that's not always feasible
目を閉じたらどう?
I fuckin hate when people have a problem and just won't say it, so if I have to be seen as aggro because I'm willing to go speak to the elephant in the room, I'm pretty much okay with that. It sucks when it pans out poorly, but even then, like... if people were uncomfortable around me, I don't want them putting themselves through that anyway.
目を閉じたらどう?
It's better if they just let me know so that way I'm not bugging them.
God of Brats
Your Ass Is Grass i found the tone indicators tumblr post i kept thinking about when talking about parenthesis
目を閉じたらどう?
Sometimes people just aren't compatible with their communication styles.
God of Brats
it's just way funnier than the /j /gen etc indicators, and also WAY clearer
God of Brats
it's difficult to incorporate those in irl speech but it's become more of a pattern in at least my corner of dwrp and it's funny every time in my very serious and professional opinion (i am not serious or a professional)
God of Brats
obviously they dont have to be used for everything ever all of the time but i think when you're not sure you'll be understood it's helpful
God of Brats
goddddd i used to get like really upset when someone would dunk on a character i liked, and then i found out like years YEARS later they were dunking on them affectionately because i didn't know them as a person and i was just looking in
God of Brats
SOCIAL MEDIA IS .... harmful for my mental health
God of Brats
at least when you're just talking to friends on the internet you can ask them what they mean, when you're looking at (a bunch of different people all saying shit all at the same time) it's so bad
God of Brats
i think a problem i have with dwrp also is i get in my head with "do i even have the right to ask them what they mean we're not that close"
God of Brats
anyways i have cannot shut up disease sorry
tandemarie
"lying to appease me" is so real, sob, all of this is real
Celizabeth Hood
wait is /gen NOT general
Celizabeth Hood
wth
Celizabeth Hood
CRYING LMAO
God of Brats
IT'S NOT GENERAL
God of Brats
THE SLASH-INDICATORS ARE GARBAGE
God of Brats
also /hj is not handjob
God of Brats
just putting that out there now
Celizabeth Hood
i like /j cuz i knw that is joke now
Celizabeth Hood
what is hj cries
God of Brats
i dont even remember what it is
God of Brats
i just know it's not handjob
God of Brats
which is what i constantly read it as
目を閉じたらどう?
it's half-joking I think, which is also a useless and garbage thing to add to your tweets
目を閉じたらどう?
I am both serious and joking but if you take me seriously I expect you to know it was a joke!!
eyjaberry 🐑(🦁)
"is this real? (genuine question) (can't tell) (very realistic) (looks real) (scary) (photoshop?)" is truly the best
PHONY
i'm with ash
PHONY
simply do not communicate with people
PHONY
disappear forever exit all social interactions become a hermit and live in the mountai
multiverse🌱dad
^
sleeping lion
communication is hard
sleeping lion
like I know I'm guilty of being Person A sometimes but I've also been Person B but I've also been The Communicator only to receive disproportionate backlash which makes it harder not to be indirect and. phew.
nihaowdy
ask me about trying to communicate and having it blow up in my face,
腐化💖之心🌊🐋🌅
re: the social media sarcasm problem there is also the issue of social media being so far ranging that like
nihaowdy
(don't)
腐化💖之心🌊🐋🌅
it has the problem of for every person who says a thing sarcastically or as satire there is a good chance you have also run into like 5 people who said it entirely 100% unironically
腐化💖之心🌊🐋🌅
this is why I only talk to people that I know and will simply stare at new people for 15 years until I've fully absorbed their personalities -
sleeping lion
also /hj may be literally half-joking but the true meaning is almost always /passive-aggressive bullying imo
sleeping lion
but. yes communication is hard
PHONY
yes i am aware i just did the thing myself I HOPE NOBODY BELIEVES I DO BELIEVE WE SHOULD ALL BECOME HERMITS
PHONY
but my solution to this is often [i will simply not engage] [for real]
a girl in love
a girl in love
sleeping lion : funny sidenote I actually like. the examples were all disconnected examples in my head, like this is six separate unrelated people, and then as I was writing them up I was like oh no this sounds like I am framing two specific people in different interactions between those same two people
a girl in love
and became anxious it would seem like vaguing. words very difficult
sleeping lion
even if it was it would be OK cause I think all of the examples read as "everyone here is trying their best but communication is hard" and not as shitting on anyone
a girl in love
I am vaguing myself actually. I have been person A and person B in all of these
sleeping lion
er. like I was p sure I was being thought of in one example but wasn't upset by it and still wouldn't be even if all of them were me
sleeping lion
I've BEEN both sides of most of the examples at some point and I think it's rly like. these are common communication problems we can all relate to
sleeping lion
we have all been at least one of the examples
a girl in love
we are all flailing around blinding screaming hitting ourselves in the face
a girl in love
blindly
sleeping lion
yes
Hamlet 3.3.87
i mean...sometimes we're flailing around blindly screaming and hitting each other in the face
a girl in love
this is also true.
raw egg hell
what is /hj tbh i always try to read it and im like hand job??? half jeans??? holy joke??
PHONY
half-joke
raw egg hell
oh i see
PHONY
it's really useless
sleeping lion
the like. positive example I can think of is like "I need my office to cave in so I can go home and take a nap /hj"
sleeping lion
but usually it's used for like. "no bc people who eat crunchy peanut deserve the guillotine /hj"
Hamlet 3.3.87
the one that gets me is /pos
because it's "positive", this is a good thing
Hamlet 3.3.87
but i cannot read it as anything other than /piece of shit
a girl in love
Hamlet 3.3.87 : me /pos
PHONY
same
Celizabeth Hood
i swear i remember seeing hj as hard joke once
God of Brats
OH THE OTHER THING I KEPT THINKING IT MIGHT BE IS "HIGH JOKE"
God of Brats
LIKE HIGH ELF OR SOMETHING
God of Brats
like "this is a high level joke you couldn't possibly understand"
PHONY
i love that
raw egg hell
high elf like legolas on hobbitweed
Hamlet 3.3.87
high jokes: jokes that are only funny if you're stoned
forwardrelentlessly
i was today years old when i found out /gen wasn't "/general"
Platinum
It's not?
目を閉じたらどう?
it's genuine
目を閉じたらどう?
as opposed to like /s for sarcasm
目を閉じたらどう?
it's also a useless tonetag.
Platinum
:/
Hamlet 3.3.87
hilariously, a lot of the kids are using /s for sincere now, too!
Hamlet 3.3.87
almost like using single letters is awful for clarity!
a girl in love
目を閉じたらどう?
Yeah like I'm not hypothetically opposed to tone tags but literally every single one I've seen in common usage is useless or worse
Hamlet 3.3.87
i make a mental difference between tone tags (derogatory) and parenthetical disambiguation (readable)(potentially helpful)(less likely to be misconstrued)(much funnier)
nihaowdy
i fucking love parenthetical disambiguation so much
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