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Okay. We're on Praxeus, right?
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yes hold on
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still watching Pokemon
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no we're on Can You Hear Me
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because Praxeus is what got you upset about the plastic
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oh, good catch
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that's right.
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ready when you are
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4 more and we have jack!
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and I can binge all four if you're up to it
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ooo!
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Maybe!
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I'll see if I get tired
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lets see what we're feeling
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Okay, ready
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because the air quality is rubbish today
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go
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I hate to say this I dont remember this one
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older lady looks familiar
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geeze, if you asked me how any of the companions have grown since the joined the Doctor, I'd say "they haven't."
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you're perching to what people complain about this
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to be honest this happened in Classic Who too
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travelling through time and space and nothing changes
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when The Doctor had 3 companions
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3 companions is just too much
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It is
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it's not even like one is hogging the spotlight
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I dont know what the logic was to have 3 to be honest
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Oooo, does the Doctor get to do something without her companions??
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I am on board
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I dont know I dont remember this one
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also, we finished Martha's run last night
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and?
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no real opinion, lol, we were having technical problems the whole time
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the router dropped out a few times, made us lose our spot
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><
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so yeah, might get Justin to just get us a month of Max
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until I stop forcing Doctor Who on him, haha
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XD
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But really excited about Donna's run though
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is that Ryan's roommate, btw? Or a brother, or...?
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uuum idk
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oh its this one
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this one was - idk man
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weird?
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which is saying a lot for Sci Fi
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why is Jodie so charismatic? ugh
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she deserved better
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she deserved better writing yes
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still waiting on her Big Finish audio
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I want to go where her Doctor goes
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she's fun
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and I still, STILL, don't care about these companions
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replace them with finger puppets and we'd lose nothing
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I hate to say it, but I actually miss Morbol or whatever his name was
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he irritated me, but at least he made me feel things
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Who?
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Mickey?
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the bald guy who travelled with 12 for a season
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ahhhh
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at the time, I wanted to just focus on 12 and Bill, but he was along too and I wished he wasn't
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but really, at least I have opinions about him
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Nardole
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Yeah, that guy
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yeah he was fun in the Colin Robinson sense
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and Nardole wasnt human
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He was - something
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yeah, he was distinctive
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sorry, I don't know why their blandness pisses me off so much, lol
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because you have standards and I dont blame you
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After RTD and Moffat's companions, I'm sorry, these ones suck.
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see what I do like about this epsiode is that you finally get to see the companions insecurities
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but it should have been sooner
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oh, is that what's going on?
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their insecurities
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ohhh
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yeah, holy hell, how long has it been? A season and a half?
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you know what we learned about Rose? Most of this. In how many episodes? One, the PIlot.
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yeah I know
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we shouldnt be a season and a half and just finding out their insecurities
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And it's all of them at once
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can't you just pick an episode and focus on one of them?
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but I believe I told you that it came out that Chinbal hired people who didnt write Sci Fi?
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do it three times?
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You did, yeah
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but you don't have to write Sci-Fi to know about characterization and growth
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thats just too many characters
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and lack of focus
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again Classic Who suffered this too
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when 5 had 3 for instance
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it just - never works
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Did you ever get a red wagon and drag the younger kids in your neighborhood around for adventures?
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no
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The Doctor is like the person pulling the red wagon and the companions just along for the ride
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but at least the kids in the neighborhood clearly liked being given rides
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thats how Classic Who was sometimes
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these companions are just THERE
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yeah, I'm not big on those parts of Classic Who either
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but I can forgive Classic Who more because thats how you wrote TV back then
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one reason I liked Ace so much
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this was 2019
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For real
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Ace worked because Ace was the only companion
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you havent seen in Classic Who when the Doctor has 3
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Ace moved the plot along and had a personality, fears, flaws
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its literally the same thing
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but when 4 has Leela or Romana II
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There's focus
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oh, I love those episodes
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and its less around for the ride epsiodes
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same thing with Sarah
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Romana II COULD be a little flat, but she was LEARNING
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there was a reason for her to be there
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but then there's also the rest of Classic Who where the companions where just along for the ride
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these companions are just there to push buttons and listen to the Doctor
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yeah, I'm not a fan of that approach
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so we remember certain Classic Companions because they did have character growth
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which was unheard of in those days
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okay, I like this art style here
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but in 2019 we're past this
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yeees I love the fable here
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it actually caught my attention
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sorry, I didn't take my Ritalin today
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but the whole thing of Rose helping The Doctor grow was very much a RTD thing when the show was rebooted
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and we expect that now
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though we could debate that some of the Classic companions did help the Doctor grow
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even if it was a snail pace
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I worry about RTD doing things that we don't know about, things that Eccleston was mad about, but I sure hope everything's fine because he makes damn good TV
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Im talking about the reboot in 2005 
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the idea the companions help the Doctor grow is very much a RTD thing
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even if its sorta - sorta in Classic Who
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yes, I haven't watched all of Classic Who, but I know at least One grew a bit after meeting Susan's teachers and leaving Susan to live her own life
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but the Doctor learning in Classic Who is a snail pace
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He was very grumpy and didn't trust them at first, but by the time Susan left, he was very open and encouraging
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yeah, 12 took a while too, but I figure that was a writer's critical input doing its work rather than planned growth
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and Ardic sacrificing himself for The Doctor
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which that was the first time someone died that The Doctor felt pain about
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Yeah, I remember that being one of the top 10 Doctor Who moments in some poll a long time ago
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adric is important even if someone people dont like him
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whether it because it was touching or because people really hated Adric, up to interpretation
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because he got kidnapped a lot :x
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I havent gotten into 5s run
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but I hear thats the general compliant
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ah, okay
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yeah, I never got through 4. He has a LONG run
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so Adric wasn't very much different at the end from when he first came on with 4
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I think people didn't like that he was a know-it-all
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he was a Wesley Crusher IIRC
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and he got kidnapped a lot
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I can't judge, though. I didn't watch his episodes
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and that was because ; 5 has 3 companions
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so I guess they concluded it wasnt a good balance but still went with it
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I think 1 had a decent balance, even if it was mostly gender stereotypes
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but at least they were stereotypes
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these companions are SO. BLAND.
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thats a product of its day
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oh, yeah, totally. I forgive it for being very '60s
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you didnt do certain things in the 60s, 70s
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I'd still rather watch 1's companions than 13's
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oh man, can you imagine 13 with Susan, Barbara, and Ian?
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ooooo
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In fact I just read that the BBC has a no gay bill for the Telly back then
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I might pick up Susan, honestly
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in RP if I can find some icons for her
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you should listen to her audios 
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I liked her a lot
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she is awesome ^^
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LOL, I'm sitting here considering watching some 1 episodes instead of this
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I'm just so frustrated
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wait
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backstory?
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we're almost at Jack
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ohhhhhh
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its worth it
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GLORIOUS BACKSTORY
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THANK HEAVENS
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YAS HAS BACKSTORY
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inject it into my veins
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where the hell was this a season ago?
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Yuuuuup
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NOOOO DON'T STOP
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Chinners pacing is really bad
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dangit
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I really feel the second epsiode is such a waste with trying to find The Tardis
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I would have had rather had this
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why couldn't this happen in, like, episode 2 of 13's run, dude?
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because it was all about finding The Tardis
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which I just said was dumb
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if I ever show Justin this show this far, I'm throwing this in EARLY
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13 <3 <3
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"I should say something reassuring right now, shouldn't I?"
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>> this is sorta what bothers me about her
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her lack of confidence compared to the boys
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erm
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they would have faked it better
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yeah, that would've been nice
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I appreciate her quirkiness though
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okay, I gotta go grab food but I'm down for another in a minute
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\o
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poke me
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see 9 would have given it to Graham straight but with confidence
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10,11 and 12 would have been mixed truth but believable
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and 13- she-
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just fumbles :|
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>.<
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Im bothered about it because outside of this
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outside of her lack of confidence which I thought she has after her first 2 parter
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which apparently not; we're in her second season
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outside of this Chinners does do a good job of not making it about The Doctor's gender
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but he does not write strong women well
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Nor does Moffat
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Moffat is the other extreme where they're basically the b word
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and have childhood trauma for them back story because thats what all strong women have
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childhood truama >>
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I dont know what to tell you
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because I do love where they had Jodi at the end of Woman Who Fell to Earth
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and I - dont know how they fell apart
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she wasnt over confident just where she needed to be and idk
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it's fine. I like her more than series 8 12
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and if you're not confident 13, you need to fake it
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12 was just a grump who insulted Clara's weight, which I do NOT approve of
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Moffat doesnt know how to write just friends :x
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that was the entire issue with that
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Moffat wanted them to be a - thing
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I read on Tumblr that someone was upset at the show because 12 commented on Clara's weight and her daughter saw the episode, broke down in tears, and said the Doctor wouldn't like her because she was overweight.
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Moffat tried to write them as a thing
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and Peter thankfully stepped in and said no
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Moffat needs some sensitivity training
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Moffat cant write just friends
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which I can appericate them here; just being friends
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I miss 11/Clara, but yeah, I wasn't into 12/Clara
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they didn't vibe well to me
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but you're right 12 and Clara was very toxic
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and they both made each other worse
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and that defeats the purpose of the Doctor and companion learning from each other
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oh, it was a nightmare
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yes
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I dont know why Clara just left to be honest
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didnt
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again, it's after her stealing his TARDIS key that I was like "NOPE, this is hard to watch. I'll catch it in reruns," if you can call downloading it when I feel like a rerun.
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11 and Clara were just so cute
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yeeeeees
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12 and River I can get behind
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yeeees
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he'd matured a bit by the time he saw River again
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12 and Missy
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yeah, 12 and MIssy were adorable
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I miss Missy
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I love love 12 and River