Found something on accident. I don't know what to do. I knew it was going to make it to wg, but the fact that so many people now know my name and have all these accusations against me... I'm debating leaving games and possibly DWRP all together. If I'm really this bad... should I leave...?
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Found something on accident. I don't know what to do. I knew it was going to make it to wg, but the fact that so many people now know my name and have all these accusations against me... I'm debating leaving games and possibly DWRP all together. If I'm really this bad... should I leave...?
Found something on accident. I don't know what to do. I knew it was going to make it to wg, but the fact that so many people now know my name and have all these accusations against me... I'm debating leaving games and possibly DWRP all together. If I'm really this bad... should I leave...?
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They even say all the stuff that's happened for me to make my gfm is my fault.
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I realized that what I said in that comment was wrong, I said as much to everyone on my timeline.
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Probably the only thing they were right about is that I was ignorant as to what forced feminization is.
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I apologized, but apparently it's just an act... that I just like to fetishize... Why do the mistakes I made in my first year... "ship-pushing" (with legitimate reasoning to believe the other person was interested, not to mention not even knowing what ship-pushing was at the time) and "asking for tags" still haunting me, and only getting worse...
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It's not that. I am more afraid of how others will think of the character (and me... which is exactly what happened) and if they will be triggered by such a character. Or at least I used to be.
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I got some advice from a friend who said, just don't fixate on it. If someone's offended then it's their deal for not looking at my opt out post. I'm not so sure anymore.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
I have started to not mention it and just link my opt out post at the top of tls and logs I post...
I şĥĩp ĩţ
It has other cw's on it, so it's not the only thing on there.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Sure, I could just stop playing Kainé... but they even brought Zelda into it.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
I realize showing this will probably make some of you unfriend me, but I promise this isn't what I'm trying to do.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Guys, what should I do? Is something like this even fixable? How can I make it right?
I şĥĩp ĩţ
I would rather not leave. I've made a lot of amazing friends and this hobby brings me joy and entertainment. But if I'm hurting people...
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I'm the type of person who hates it when people are mad at me and all I want to do is make it right when they are... but I don't know what to do here.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Hurting people or making them feel bad is the absolute last thing I ever want to do.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
I might be stupid like they say, dumber than a box of rocks, but it's not like I haven't tried to learn the correct way of things.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Am I really hurting this many people? I'm so sorry if I have ever hurt you. I promise I never meant whatever I did out of malice...
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Anyway, I don't know what to do. Probably gonna try to vanish for awhile, except for my RL friends. Just know I'm grateful for all of you who have threaded with me and been my friend for these two years I've been in this hobby. Thank you.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
If you don't believe this stuff is true, and still wanna be my friend, I'll be on Discord. If you don't have it and want it, comment here and I'll pp you. Otherwise, I think I'm gonna deplurk.
єєℓѕ
As someone who's been on WG before: it's not worth your time.
єєℓѕ
Once someone has their opinion of you, that's their opinion and you cannot do anything to change it.
єєℓѕ
It's best if you just take what you've learned and as long as you aren't harming people, just keep having fun.
on hiatus
It's important to remember that in the wake of someone's happiness there will always be someone else's misery. It is literally impossible to make everyone else happy, so that kind of thinking will always lead to disappointment
damn Free!dom
I like you and I like playing with you.
on hiatus
Even if there is truth to some of this, I like to learn from personal interactions.
on hiatus
Take some time for you and learn from your mistakes and I am positive you'll be alright. You've been nice and I enjoy playing off of your character
Handrew
I like playing with you! C:
Handrew
I have an opt-out post as well as an hmd that are totally open just so i can receive feedback from others who want me to grow. It's always best to avoid places like WG
Handrew
If people can't actually talk to you to address things that make them uncomfortable, they're not being productive or mature
Handrew
But you also have to be mindful of how you respond, and it's easy to feel super defensive. I used to be like that all the time (not saying you are because I'm not digging into this while I'm at work, I'm just referencing my own past experiences)
Handrew
Apparently i make people uncomfortable but i don't know how or why and if they don't want to play with me, that's their business
Zigzag Stampede
Just for context: I didn't click the link as I avoid wg. There is a time and place for anon stuff, but it's not behind people's backs where if there is a legitimate concern the person being targeted has a good chance of not seeing it. Most of what I hear about wg are people being petty, picking on tiny things that don't matter, blowing things out of
Zigzag Stampede
Proportion and outright lying at times and because some people just love to hate and stir things up they don't care who they hurt so long as they get to feel superior by dragging other people down.
Zigzag Stampede
It sucks, but there are people like that in basically any hobby. Wg just gives them a place to be anon together to stir things up. So the painful blunt part is: you can't fix this. Mean girls are going to mean girl no matter what you say or do.
Zigzag Stampede
The best you can do is learn from mistakes because we all make them. We all have dumb moments and we all start somewhere
Zigzag Stampede
If there is a real problem then someone can tell you so to yourself. How are you supposed to know if something is a problem if people don't say anything? Someone going to wg instead of talking to you is not someone you want to be playing with anyway
Zigzag Stampede
The way I handle knowing wg is a thing is trying not to care about it. If I get mentioned on there and people decide not to tag with me because of it then they're probably people I wouldn't want to play with anyway so no real loss there.
Zigzag Stampede
Fighting against is what they want. They don't care about you. They just care about the drama and that by making you feel bad they feel like they're 'winning'. Don't let them win. (easier said than done - trust me I know) Forget about wg. Don't go to it. Don't care what they're saying.
Handrew
Zigzag Stampede
Put up and opt-out post. Don't question those who use it or their whys. Just go: sure thing and don't tag them. Regardless if their reason is for something real and personal or something stupid they saw on wg - an opt-out post means you're both not wasting your time going after tags and threads that won't go anywhere
Zigzag Stampede
If there is a legitimate issue then you can try having an anon post on your journal where people can bring up concerns they may be too shy to mention to your face. Although I may wait a bit before doing that. I'm sure some jerk will be going: tee-hee! Are mean comments made someone sad! Aren't we special we hurt someone's feelings?
Zigzag Stampede
And then they will try to continue that because they're riding a bullying high.
Zigzag Stampede
You can't win with a bully on the internet. All you can do is ignore them and have your fun. The people who like you will tag with you. Focus on them and the positives. Not whatever is being said on wg.
Zigzag Stampede
Again, easier said then done. Take some time. Step away. RP is supposed to be fun. Not stressful and upsetting. If you're not having fun don't force it. But, you've always been respectful to me and I like tagging with you. So, it after a breather you want to still try having fun? Then keep on tagging.
Zigzag Stampede
This hobby is still big enough that there are just going to be some people everyone doesn't gel with and that's OK. You don't have to tag everyone and everyone doesn't have to tag you. Just focus on the people you do enjoy tagging with.
Zigzag Stampede
Sorry if there are a lot of typos in this. I've just woken up and have been getting ready for work at the same time. It just felt like you could use another voice chiming in to say: don't stress about wg. Just try to have fun.
𝕁υѕт мєℓσ∂ιє
It's wankgate
𝕁υѕт мєℓσ∂ιє
Ignore them
𝕁υѕт мєℓσ∂ιє
I know it's hard, but they're the cancer of DWRP
𝕁υѕт мєℓσ∂ιє
Also apparently that thread is frozen. That means the wankgate mods themselves found it too petty. It's bullies finding other bullies going too far
𝕁υѕт мєℓσ∂ιє
This comm is poisonous
Handrew
Wankgate is 100% worth ignoring
𝒽𝓎𝓉𝒽𝓁𝑜𝒹𝒶𝑒𝓊𝓈.
ignore it tbh... as long as you have an opt out so people can not tag with you, let them use it and just play with the people who want to do stuff with you i guess? wankgate in general is something i pay 0 attention to anyway and my life is happier for it, lol
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
yeah seconded on "even bullies thought this was too much bullying"
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
iirc that thread was exactly one or two people with a bug up their butt telling lies, and a bunch of other people who don't know you, wouldn't recognize you on sight, and probably won't ever remember you just speculating for sport
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
if they have a real problem they can use your clearly visible opt-out
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
you have been nothing but honest about being willing to learn from your mistakes
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
idk don't let the bastards grind you down, that's what they want
elidibus 🌙
wg may seem terrible but most of the time it's not what everyone thinks, it's just a small handful of people with nothing to do or who just like to stir shit because they can. you should take a break if that would help but ultimately do what you want and have fun, they don't matter.
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
There's a lot of comments just straight up making shit up and assuming things about you - and that's their problem, not yours
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
I'm sorry if this makes people assume the worst, but if they're stupid enough to take wg and the commenters behind it at face value, then they're not worth playing with, anyway
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
I've always enjoyed playing with you. I don't think you play your characters like creepy fetish fuel or whatever. Kainé has depth and you're great at playing her personality
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Anyone claiming you're just playing her for the fetish clearly hasn't played with your Kainé to know you've got more going for her than that
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
But yeah, as others have said... ignore that shit. It looks like it's a couple toxic people as opposed to it being a whole bunch of people
I şĥĩp ĩţ
I come back to this after talking to my therapist about it. She said much the same thing. That I should have fun and do what I want. Which is to still play with all of you guys.
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Good
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
I have fun playing with you, and anyone trying to make you leave the hobby you enjoy isn't worth your time
I şĥĩp ĩţ
I do know for a fact that one of those people Tifa. She said something from a pm that only 5 people know about. And I don't think the other 4 would go on wg
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Another friend commented on the closeness of the time of the comments.
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
i don't think it will do you any good to speculate about who did it
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
best to just let it go and avoid the people who don't seem to appreciate your presence like we do
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Either everyone jumped on this as soon as it was posted, or it was the same people
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
I concur, it's not productive at all to try and figure out who is making what comments
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Thinking of it this way makes me feel better. That it's the same shitty people who can't let shit go and continuously try to drag me.
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
i think it just makes you feel resentful and you think that's better
I şĥĩp ĩţ
meaning that it's all the same people commenting over and over
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
I mean people speculated I was the one wanking on them during the Noct drama when that was literally not true, because I realized very fast that I didn't even need to say anything ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
But in my experience, theorizing on anonymous identities isn't productive at all for anyone
I şĥĩp ĩţ
I just... wasn't even searching for that. I just stumbled on it when looking for something else
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
just don't go to wankgate
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
^ Agreed
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
if you aren't prepared you see yourself there you shouldn't go. i would say that to anyone
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
i say that to myself
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Yeah, but it's easier to ignore if I don't think of it as a bunch of different people in the dw community that are now thinking these things about me
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Wankgate won't make you feel better, period
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
i mean it's obviously just 1 or 2 people
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
At best you can rest assured that it seems like even the mods thought the bullying was going too far, since they froze the thread
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
but you don't have to dwell on who it is or speculate on here, that's a waste of your time
I şĥĩp ĩţ
they only froze the thread because it's a private game
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
i'm pretty sure that's why they froze it, it was just the same couple of anons making stuff up
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Nah, that's not the only reason
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
they don't freeze private game threads anymore
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
so that isn't why they froze it
I şĥĩp ĩţ
oh.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Well, if you guys are still fine with me playing my characters
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
they froze it because it was just bullying
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
like it got weird and they froze the whole thing instead of just the weird part
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Even Kainé, then I will continue to do so. 'cuz that's what makes me happy.
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
i think anyone who isn't fine with you playing your characters can simply not play with you
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Yeah, the comments got really bizarre like, straight up fabricating shit
pastel ranma
Yeah exactly, don't let wg drag you down. It's a cesspool.
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
And agreed, if anyone has any issues, they can opt out
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
they couldn't even explain what they thought was fetishy anyway which makes me think that wasn't their main concern
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
their main concern was they just don't like seeing you around having fun
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Just remember that anyone can opt out for any reason or no reason - just say "sure thing" and move on (hopefully after they've told you which characters of theirs they don't want you to tag)
I şĥĩp ĩţ
I just... would like to know the correct wording I should use that's the least offensive on my opt out page. Though my therapist used race as an example where some people prefer certain terms while others see them as slurs. So, I guess there really is no way to word it.
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Don't dwell on whether it's because of wank or some personal beef with you
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
if they have an issue they can actually put into words, then they can talk to you about it because like i said. you've never been anything but open about being willing to correct mistakes
pastel ranma
Hell they criticized me for having an incredibly thirsty character be even more thirsty in a smut game where your inhibitions were affected.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Well, this is gonna make me seem incredibly stupid and naiive, but what exactly does fetishing mean? That you literally get off on something having to do with the character?
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
it's more important to get across that your main goal is to be respectful imo. and people can take that or leave it
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Believe me or not, but that question is seriously legitimate.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
actually, I'm dumb. gonna Google it.
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
i mean, i can give you the same dictionary definition that google will give you but idk what wankgate means when they say it and neither do they
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
i would say fetishizing is hyperfocusing on a character's sexuality or genitalia or body, over the character traits that form a fully rounded personality for them
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
but i don't agree that you do that
I şĥĩp ĩţ
ahaha, those people are idiots and don't even know what they're saying
I şĥĩp ĩţ
By the early 20th century, fetish took on yet another meaning quite distinct from its antecedents: a sexualized desire for an object (such as a shoe) or for a body part that is not directly related to the reproductive act (such as an earlobe).
I şĥĩp ĩţ
From Websters
I şĥĩp ĩţ
it specifically says "not directly related to the reproductive act"
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
i wouldn't focus on that
I şĥĩp ĩţ
well, I just didn't know what it meant
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
they're saying fetishizing = treating a character like a sexy object and not a person
I şĥĩp ĩţ
And even your definition I don't do. I'd say I more focus on her swearing and the reactions she gets from other characters for how she dresses lol
I şĥĩp ĩţ
and just, how she comes across as a bitch when she first meets someone then little things out her as being soft
I şĥĩp ĩţ
case and point
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
i think it's probably subjective for some people and if they want to opt out then whatever
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Yeah, I think they're trying to say that Kainé is nothing more than a sexual object which is objectively not true
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Also her neat powers and to get more into it, the angst over being Shade possessed. That's why I play her from the canon point I do and that even in games that don't allow Tyrann actively, I make him more dormant and just a instinctive influence
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
People can be uncomfortable with the way she's depicted in canon/talked about by the creators (such as using what is now commonly regarded as a slur), and they don't have to play with her - but they have to use their words with you instead of just whining to wankgate and making shit up there
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Like yes you do smut with her, so her genitalia is pretty relevant when that comes up, but you're not hyperfocused on them in situations when it doesn't matter
I şĥĩp ĩţ
That's kind of one of the things I wanted to ask people here. What wording makes you most comfortable?
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
I think "intersex" is probably the most acceptable term for Kainé? And if anyone has issues with it because it doesn't perfectly conform to reality's depiction of intersex, they can fuck off
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Or opt out, I'm not their boss
I şĥĩp ĩţ
I do also question the person who mentions the story in Grimoire Nier. They had to be a fan of something in order to find that. And read it for that matter. I mean, Grimoire Nier is kinda niche
I şĥĩp ĩţ
I think that's what the wiki says
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Like fiction uses labels to describe exaggerated forms of real life disorders and such all the time
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
No one's saying anyone playing Moon Knight can't use DID to describe the character because real DID doesn't have people magically shifting alters
I şĥĩp ĩţ
I şĥĩp ĩţ
but you guys have a really good point. If these people have such a problem, why don't I have a million comments on my opt out post?
I şĥĩp ĩţ
oh shit... even one of the other wikis...
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Because DWRPers have issues with communication and would rather bully people out of the hobby than actually try and better the experience 
I şĥĩp ĩţ
I şĥĩp ĩţ
also lol she's short without heels
I şĥĩp ĩţ
I şĥĩp ĩţ
ok I'm done. gonna go do my tags now.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
or try, I have the headache from hell and nausea to boot. I think my partner's French toast she made caused me to get sick 
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
I think folks use the term "hermaphrodite" out of ignorance not realizing it's a slur. I'd just avoid bringing it up while playing Kainé altogether
єєℓѕ
God forbid people learn new terms and shit right 
єєℓѕ
I chatted with you briefly over Discord about this earlier on in my spring quarter, but my class went a little more in depth into intersexuality and its Incredibly misunderstood or just not known about at all.
Guardian Bear J
One thing I will say is... when it comes to WG? If you pay any attention to it at ALL, take it as a point of pride. It means you're living rent-free in at least one persons' head.
Exacerangutan
swinging through to confirm that WG is a cesspool of delusional sadists fixated on opportunities to hurt other people for perceived past offenses that may or may not have happened
Guardian Bear J
Otherwise, I can count on no hands how many times Wank Gate has actually produced a post worth anything more than a chuckle and click onto the next link that catches my interest.
Exacerangutan
if WG levels accusations at someone IMO that's more likely than not a sign of their integrity and innocence
єєℓѕ
That said, I do want to validate your feelings and that in spite of how awful WG is, I acknowledge that it's ok for you to feel insecure or unsafe in this situation.
Exacerangutan
people who have legit grievances take them through other channels
Guardian Bear J
If you're really worried about your RP, it means keep RPing. It means you're LEARNING and growing.
Doctor Ansem
Late to the party but wg is filled with petty mean girl children that don't even like each other.
Exacerangutan
oh yeah feeling attacked when being attacked is very understandable, and stopping to ask if maybe you might be the bad guy is a crucial part of not being a bad guy
єєℓѕ
It might help to step back from the hobby for a bit and just sit with those feelings for a bit. You do you boo.
Exacerangutan
self-care comes first, so if you need to step away for your own sake, do what you need to do and know you have friends here
єєℓѕ
Like this is a hobby. It's meant to be fun. If it's gotten to the point where you're feeling bad, then by all means step back from it for a while.
єєℓѕ
If tagging helps you feel better, then by all means do that.
Exacerangutan
...but seriously, at an intellectual level at least, try to bear in mind that the opinions of WG people have basically zero value.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Tbh, I'm actually feeling moderately stalked. The comments regarding my 9S. I apped him to 2 games, one was Noct and the other was Seasons. In Noct, I only threaded with 1 person and I know it's not them. Also I dislike when people refer to him as Shota when I'm playing him, because he's supposed to have the mental age of 19. As for Seasons...
I şĥĩp ĩţ
I never actually played him
I şĥĩp ĩţ
Anyway, this means that someone is so invested in me that they're fixated on what characters I play and in what games. That's stalker behavior.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
lol
єєℓѕ
For someone to target you in such a massive game like that is incredibly petty.
єєℓѕ
So, yeah. Not worth time or breath.
Exacerangutan
I would literally be (very slightly) more inclined to listen to the opinions of a fascist than a wankgater. The fascist's opinions, you can filter through the lens of fascism and maybe recover some reality. WGers are just pathetic bundles of spite, hate, and malice.
Guardian Bear J
Yeah, someone is DEFINITELY stalking you at that point.
Exacerangutan
and yeah agreed that's stalking behavior
Exacerangutan
...which is entirely what I expect from WG.
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
The only thing "shota" about 9S is that he wears shorts
Exacerangutan
my first encounter with WG was a WGer following someone else into bakerstreet memes, harassing them and anyone they threaded with through a sockpuppet with a username that used "autistic" as a slur
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
But he's clearly supposed to be physically/mentally late teens so the whole "shota kink" holds no water
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
the shota kink thing was very strange and left field
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
at that point it was like "everything is they do is gross and a kink because i dislike this person" and you can't really... fix that
Exacerangutan
I was dumb and looked at it out of morbid curiosity and I don't even understand what they're talking about 
Exacerangutan
like the "yikes" was at what... looked to me like a completely reasonable discussion of policy with mods? 
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Yeah. I'm sorry you've somehow gotten the attention of someone this toxic they'll only give the most bad faith takes about you, but there's really no convincing people like that and worrying about won't get you anywhere
Exacerangutan
hdu, uh... [checks notes] ...talk to mods of a game about a sensitive subject and how to handle it in their RP community
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
They're like the kind of people who you'll say you love chocolate and they'll be like SO WHAT DO YOU HAVE AGAINST VANILLA HUH?!?!
Exacerangutan
this looks to me like it's Hunter's Laptop tier desperately looking for something at least vaguely like an accusation despite the nonexistence of anything credible to base it on
Exacerangutan
so... my inclination is to say ignore them if possible, or if you're very worried about it, let folks know you've got a WG stalker so they know to be skeptical of any rumors that surface about you
Exacerangutan
IMO anyone who takes WG opinions seriously is no loss at all to cut out of your hobby space and/or life
Exacerangutan
or i should probably say anyone who takes WG opinions at face value
emet-sleep
WG is a cesspit of nothing and your social circle is not enriched by having any of those petty bitches as your friend
Exacerangutan
feeling attacked over being attacked is entirely valid
emet-sleep
they will literally lie and craft an agenda out of the smallest thing they dislike so ignore it, try and be better, but don't let it define you
Exacerangutan
^ agree agree
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The original "yikes" was a little valid. I posted a comment with ignorance on what something was in order to avoid hurting someone's feelings, and in doing so broke like 10 rules
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Oh. I made my timeline private again since they're spouting shit about my gfm. I'm not gonna publicize it anymore if that's what they're telling people. (again, more stalker behavior)
emet-sleep
public timelines are never a good idea anyway tbh
emet-sleep
but /hugs
mariscorner🇺🇦
I almost felt like I could lose brain cells everytime I attempt to go to WG. The only time I didn’t was for another game but most of time WG is not worth anyone’s time.
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I only had it public for the gfm
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also
emet-sleep
: 
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resorted to the pain meds 'cuz head hurty and it's not going away. Tried eating dry toast in hopes I can keep it down
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I got a note from my Dr now for the drug test (for new job) anyway.
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
The GFM dig was fucking dumb. Wankgate gets up in arms over people making excuses for why they can't find work - meanwhile you're actively applying for jobs while asking for help, but evidently you shouldn't have a job because boundaries or some shit
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Which is it
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Like, idk how to word this right, but the vibe I get from anons is that if you're "making excuses" for why you're not actively applying for work, you're too lazy - but if you don't live up to their social standards, then you don't "deserve" a job... or something, I guess
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Luckily even wg mods tend to crack down when anons start trying to go there, because it's stupid and creepy when they start digging into your personal life
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yeah, they were basically saying "it's your fault you don't have a job 'cuz you don't know how to act"
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Yeahhh, which is like, not a conducive way of thinking at all
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and there could be some truth to it, I don't know. Still am unsure about why I got so many interviews but no offers
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Interviews are hard!
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I did get an offer today, but I decided I wanted to take the Amazon job instead. I just don't know how to tell them.
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
And also stupid. But I remember some anon there called me a "dumb cunt" once when I said that a lot of folks have some degree of anxiety that affects their work
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
But some people seem to think they're above that shit
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Mainly because of my reasons for getting a job right now. I wanted something to support myself while I wait for my employer sponsor. And I'd feel much worse about leaving a Vet ER than leaving a warehouse job when the time comes
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Like nah man, I'm sure you're perfectly unaffected when you have a boss or customer scream at you and call you names
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so true
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go be a receptionist at my old job while they're screaming racist remarks about you 'cuz they don't want to pay their bill
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Or have worked in a toxic environment in general where you're exposed to situations that affect your mental health
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Yup
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I have also had the pleasure of working in a toxic coworker environment
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Like I'd love to be able to tell my potential employer that I can handle all situations gracefully, but the fact is that not everyone can know how they're going to react to a tense situation like that until they've experienced it, and they might not handle it well
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exactly.
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another reason why I'm hesitant to take the ER job
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I can handle animals in pain to a certain degree... where I can fix it.
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and I'm gonna stop that topic there
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Due to my history, I just don't handle people getting angry and yelling at me well, which is unfortunately common in a lot of customer service roles, which are one of the most common jobs you can really get
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That is exactly the problem I have.
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
The alternative is physically taxing work, which might not be an option if you're physically disabled (like I know you are)
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That's what I'm going for now though... temporarily. Warehouse work is gonna be physically taxing. but then again, I had to lift 50lb dogs and restrain a 120lb dog that REALLY wanted the cat that was getting treated across the room
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Yeah, I worry for you doing that type of work, since I know Amazon warehouses work their employees to the bone :\
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I did talk to the accommodation person though. just gotta work things out
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
Hopefully they're understanding
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I hope so
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and that they don't judge me thinking I can't do ANYTHING because of my disability...
ʙᴇᴄᴋ 🍂
It just sucks when you're job hunting with disabilities in any capacity, though - since it's normalized to lie about yourself to some degree in order to get hired
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like what happened at my last job
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that's exactly what I had to do.
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unless asked outright
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like the interviewer that asked if I was on ssdi
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idk why I didn't call her on it being illegal. as soon as I told the truth the odds of me getting that job were 0
Exacerangutan
I think the simple way to explain the seeming contradiction of WGers' attitudes about employment is "they are bad people who prioritize spite and malice above everything else"
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wherever they can get a shot in
Exacerangutan
yeah basically
Exacerangutan
if there isn't something worth criticizing they'll either criticize something else and pretend it's worth criticizing, or just make some shit up
Exacerangutan
reason, empathy, and acceptance of objective reality are among the "everything else" that they subordinate to spite and malice
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so, I thought about this, and this stalker behavior is totally going against MY boundaries.
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so now who'se at fault?
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lol someone should go to wg on my behalf and say people are doing that
𝖙𝖔𝖕 𝖉𝖔𝖌❄️
no one should ever go to wg and say anything
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True. I was more joking
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hence the 'lol'