Lea
And it's time. I am now beginning Shadowbringers.
skerple
/koolaid mans in here
Lea
Well, that's sure an opening!
Lea
Oh we're just gonna feed the nice merchant who showed us the way to an angel-thing, huh?
Lea
Hi Ardbert!
Lea
... Oh, so the other Warriors of Darkness and Minfilia just double-died offscreen, huh?
skerple
yep it's super cool and fun /s
Lea
I'm not bitter you're bitter
es un elote
Lea
Alisaie!
Lea
Annnnnd horrible revelations about where Sin Eaters come from, not that I'm particularly surprised. Really just reverse Voidsent.
Lea
Bring this idea into KH sometime
Lea
Just pounding on the zombie movie similarities here.
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lemme know when you get to Teslene
Lea
FUNNY THING ABOUT THAT
Lea
I HAD TO GO TAKE A LUNCH BREAK AFTER
Lea
"No one should die... In pain..."
Zestium Beam!
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skerple
HAHAHA YEAH TESLEEN IS ROUGH
skerple
WELCOME TO SHADOWBRINGERS
Lea
I thought I was ready
Lea
Well Eulmore's quite the biting commentary on the wealthy.
skerple
Haaaahahahah yep
Lea
Fat cats
Lea
Oh, okay, so they're just offering up people who aren't useful anymore to be turned into Sin Eaters! Joy!
Lea
Oh hi Don Corneo
Lea
I appreciate how they very quickly give us two big villains to aim at. Vauthry, and that seraph-like Sin Eater who turned Tesleen.
Lea
And first duty ready!
Lea
Now, do I open up the party finder, or use the Trust system...
skerple
I ALWAYS recommend trust
skerple
it's slower than running with a party (because the NPCs are bad at optimizing their DPS and they don't like to multipull) and there's fewer loot drops, BUT you get character interactions, you don't have to stress about other people's time, you get ALL the loot that DOES drop, and the NPCs will actually teach you how to do mechanics
skerple
they may be allergic to using their fucking AOEs properly, but by god they will not stand in the bad
skerple
so they'll show you where it's safe to stand
skerple
(they're not UNIVERSALLY reliable for mechanics, there are a few dungeons where a given boss will have a gimmick mechanic and every trust member will approach it differently and not all of them will succeed, but that's literally like two examples I can think of)
skerple
(the rest of the time they're good)
es un elote
Trusts are fun, I like them
skerple
basically shadowbringers is where they start realizing that there are a lot of players who want to play 14 like a traditional single-player FF, and start providing options for those people
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In fact they've been retroactively adding that system to the entire game
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(which btw is something I do really like about 14, unlike many MMOs it strives to improve its old content rather than remove it and tunnel you to endgame)
es un elote
Adding duty support to old content has made it really fun to visit again
Lea
Okay, so I went through on Trust, and yeah, it works really well. But more importantly...
Lea
OM NOM we eat angels now
Lea
Oh hey Estinien and Gaius are teaming up
es un elote
team BATMANS
Lea
And now apparently Minfilia has become some sort of reincarnating badass warrior maiden?
Lea
Okay, love that for her.
es un elote
YEAH
Lea
Pity about losing her memories each time, but that's what generally happens with reincarnation, until The Plot gives them back at a suitably dramatic moment.
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Haha yeah, that Teslene cs was like... wtf just happened?!?!
Lea
Okay, and now we have super-monk general, aaaaand hi Solus!
Lea
Damn Fae
pastel ranma
You can really tell Ishikawa was like "Fuck you for fucking with my female characters. Let me try to fix this"
es un elote
A wuxia villain got lost and ended up in Eulmore
Lea
Lyse is going to be so disappointed she didn't get to fight this guy.
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Oh sheet it's Ranjeet!
Lea
... I love how not two hours ago I was making half-jokes about Minfilia getting her past life memories back at a Plot Relevant time and oh now it turns out original flavor Min is just hanging out in the back of her mind and has been the whole time.
Lea
Wake up in the morning, start playing some FF XIV before work, and discover I was right on the cusp of the second ShB dungeon. Alright then.
Lea
No Kermit I don't wanna be your wife
Lea
Oh hey the toad fae tried to drown me but psyche Kojin magic
Lea
Thanks best tribe
Lea
... Did Urianger just use dog commands on the Nu Mou?
Lea
Okay, so First!Minfilia is feeling horribly inadequate over not being able to be Original Flavor!Minfilia, meanwhile Original Flavor wants her to be her own person even if it means no more reincarnations for her. Yeah, that sounds about right-
Lea
Oh hi Titania
Lea
Oh hi Titania
Lea
Ah, so trusts aren't available for trials.
es un elote
There is exactly one trial in the game that allows trusts and it’s a ways out
Lea
Eh, that's fine. Trials usually gather pretty quickly.
Lea
And that's two angels eaten! Out of... not sure.
Lea
Probably at least five.
Lea
And the reveal that is a big surprise to all the characters and not one at all to the players! Hello Solus... or should I say, Emet-Selch!
skerple
Thancred is having just the WORST time
skerple
he was already coping very poorly with The Minfilia Situation, and now there's an Ascian
Lea
And given that Lahabrea's dead and Elidibus is... busy cosplaying Zenos, here's the worst Ascian.
Lea
And he's trying to be... ugh, friends!
Lea
... Shtola, what do you know that I don't
Lea
Why did you think I was a sin eater
Lea
Shtola
pastel ranma
Also for sake of funnies I know the fandom called First!Minfilia Minifilia for a bit.
Lea
Cute
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They did mention considering adding trust to story trials in 7.0 but that's still a maybe
Lea
We are currently throwing bags full of bees at our enemies.
Lea
I am 100% in support of this plan.
Lea
Okay, so: the light from the angels I've nommed is still inside me and that's probably a very bad thing, also mister super-monk general has showed up to make things more difficult again.
Lea
Dammit Shtola, stop almost-dying!
Lea
I swear it's at least once every expansion with her.
Lea
... Emet what are you up to
es un elote
did you talk to the viera sisters about him
Lea
Nnnno, no I did not think to do that.
es un elote
they found him napping in a sunbeam
Lea
Oh boy, a Sin Eater Chimera!
Lea
... That's weirdly adorable.
es un elote
right
es un elote
i love grandpa
Lea
... Well shit
Lea
Okay, Emet just dropped the lore on me, so.
Lea
"Hydaelyn and Zodiark are the original super-primals" yeah, not surprising. We have yet to see any examples of non-primal deities that we know actually exist, the twelve being still pretty unclear. So, yeah, if anything, them being non-primal deities would have been the bigger twist.
Lea
"The Ascians come from the world before it got split apart" again, not a huge twist, explains their motives, end goals, makes it all fit together pretty nicely and actually gives us a reason to sympathize with the evil super-wizards.
Lea
As for Zodiark being the one who saved everyone from whatever the original calamity was and Hydaelyn being summoned because some people were scared he was too powerful and needed to be reined in, I'm reserving judgment there, given the source of the information.
Lea
The implications are what are really interesting. Does this mean people with the Echo are tempered by Hydaelyn? It'd explain why they're immune to tempering from other primals, but the rest of the abilities, not so much.
Lea
Are the Ascians all tempered by Zodiark? That'd explain Lahabrea especially...
Lea
And why is there a mural depicting all this on the First to begin with?
Lea
Finally, does this really change anything? Yeah, it sucks the Ascians lost their world and all, but that doesn't make the whole repeated genocides thing alright.
Lea
Like, sorry guys, but we still gotta save countless innocent lives from you here.
es un elote
I think at some point Emet-Selch does confirm they’ve all been tempered by Zodiark
Lea
Which stands to reason, and makes his version of events even more suspect.
es un elote
It’s worth talking to him when he’s a targetable npc because he has a lot of interesting stuff to say and also he’s very funny
Lea
And hopping back over to the Source...
Lea
Estinien and Gaius doin' skullduggery, hunting down the Black Rose factories, cool cool-
Lea
HI ZENOS
Lea
NICE TO SEE YOU'RE HOME
skerple
HAHAHAHAAH
skerple
also yeah talk to Emet-Selch every time the game lets you, he's very funny and also has just so much lore
Lea
And we just fought off a Sin Eater attack I'm pretty sure was sent at us from Eulmore...
Lea
And now we're sneaking through the last non-Eulmore section so that First!Minfilia and Original Flavor can decide who gets the body. Or maybe they'll do a fusion dance.
Lea
Daaaamn, good show from Thancred! Time to back off and let the girl live her life, Controlling Monk Dad.
skerple
he had to take a bit of a run up to it, but Thancred is a good dad
Lea
And goodbye, original flavor Min! We never got to see you actually do anything cool, but it was nice of you to give babby!Min her own life and a new hair color!
Lea
Oh good and now an actual name.
Lea
That'll make things much less confusing.
Lea
Aaaaand we're going full biblical angel for this lightwarden.
Lea
Okay, I get why everyone likes Emet so much.
Lea
He's got a perfectly reasonable goal, he's funny, actually pretty charming... and he's a fucking sociopath, or at least he's going to act like one if he doesn't consider anyone living on one of the current worlds "actually alive".
Lea
Funnily enough, it's the exact same logic Monika used to justify erasing the other Dokis, if for very, very different reasons.
Lea
New ship?
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Lea
Ascian!Monika would be terrifying.
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What I like with Emet is that you can easily see how in the same predicament, we'd possibly become like him.
Lea
I mean, yeah. From his perspective, everything he's doing makes total sense.
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Just imagine Earth being split into 13 shards and people in each of those shards are less intelligent and less advanced and you find a way to bring back things to the way they were. With nobody to tell you "dude, that's fucked up" you'd radicalize yourself fast.
Lea
And he's already decided the people who would object (on account of being horribly murdered) are completely irrelevant.
Lea
We've had some villians who made some sense. Thordain was trying to protect his people, Nidhogg had lost himself to grief, Gaius genuinely thought rule by Garlemald was best for everyone...
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I mean, there's Lahabrea and Edilibus, but. Well, you'll see in time.
Lea
But each of them was being willfully blind to something important. Emet? He's being completely rational.
Lea
Cold and uncaring to anyone still sundered, but other than that? He makes total sense.
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A really excellent villain. A rare treat. Thankfully, it just keeps getting better. There's a pre and a post-Yotsuyu era IMO. A moment when the writer decided "Okay, I'm not going to let you face those villains and not feel bad about it."
Lea
"Meol is made out of sin eater" Oh thanks Ryne
Lea
That's the best news
Lea
Well all my angel-eating jokes have just become horrifying.
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"it's people"
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Also have RP'd with an Emet and Kainé and I love their CR so much!
Lea
And now we're going to build a giant fucking robot to grab the floating volcano so we can go kill Vauthry, who is in fact half Sin Eater.
Lea
(Must mostly eat gluttony)
Lea
Heeeeey Varis and Elidibus waiting to welcome Zenos home! How nice!
Lea
(Somebody gonna die)
Lea
Oh, so there are no optional leveling dungeons in ShB.
Lea
Just as well, it lets them make every dungeon important to the story.
Lea
It was neat that Vauthry essentially became Archangel Michael for the last phase of the trial. Or possibly Lucifer.
Lea
AND THERE IT IS
Lea
Several cutscenes will play in sequence
Saturn Is A Tea
Buckle. In.
Lea
... Well fuck.
Lea
Crystal Exarch being Graha Tia? Not a real surprise. I mean, he got left in the Tower for some reason, after all.
es un elote
I think there are some criticisms I have about Vauthry’s design on the fatphobia end of things but I do think it’s kind of neat that he’s essentially a big horrifying cherub to start and then he becomes a classic renaissance angel
Lea
The plan made sense, too. And then here comes Emet to fuck it all up, because yeah, of course he would. Turning the WoL into a super-warden to finish off the First works perfectly for him.
es un elote
the fact that he just shoots g’raha is so fucking funny. like he’s an immortal ancient wizard and he decides to cast gun
Lea
Aaaaaand now here we are with no idea what to do! Wheeee!
Lea
Emet-Selch learned from Emiya Kiritsugu.
Lea
Okay, so we've gotten the flashback to G'raha explaining everything, and now we're gonna go punch Emet in the immortal dick.
Lea
This is a good plan. I like this plan.
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lol
Lea
And we're underwater and finally get to chat with First!Sahagin.
Lea
They are less than impressed with us taking all their water away so we can go spelunking.
es un elote
don't log out in this area by the way.
Lea
Oh? Buggy?
es un elote
nah when you log back in the area portrait is a spoiler
Lea
Ohhhhh
Lea
Well, I found First!Gerolt and went and finished my role quest so I could get things done with the First!Sahagin.
Lea
And now they're guiding me to a city that showed up all of a sudden very recently... Okay Emet, what did you do?
Lea
Oh. Apparently the answer to that question was "Magicking up a goddamn metropolis".
Lea
There's...a lot here, but Hytholodaeus just littered the ground with little points in one conversation.
es un elote
ah, hythlodaeus...
Lea
The hell does "new old friend" mean?
Lea
Who were we?
Lea
Anyway, I'm about to face the final dungeon, but it's late, I think I'll put off the grand finale (well, of 5.0 anyway) for tomorrow.
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skerple
skerple
Emet is seriously just, the best villain
skerple
it's a fine fucking line to tread, making him so deeply understandable and at the same time so undeniably wrong, but but god, Ishikawa walks it
skerple
(Ishikawa is the MSQ writer from Shadowbringers on, which is why you've probably noticed a stark increase in general writing quality and specifically character writing)
skerple
(She did some assorted quests and side content, then in Stormblood they let her do the entire Steppe, and then in Shadowbringers they just handed her the keys)
skerple
(ALC was her, incidentally, which turns that whole "color of your soul" bit into some hilarious fucking foreshadowing)
Lea
Yes, people have been singing Ishikawa's praises to me ever since I put up my first "hey I'm playing this game now" plurk.
Lea
Beginning with the 30-50 DRK questline, naturally.
Lea
Okay. Amaurot down, and my gosh that was intense. Both storyline and gameplay-wise. (Fuck that last boss. Seriously.)
Lea
Time to team up with my fellow WoL's and take down Emet... or, as he's apparently actually called, Hades!
Lea
Wonder if we're going to get another Amaroutian named Zeus or Athena or something, though obviously Hades is a reference to the VII summon.
skerple
heeheehee
skerple
and yeah Amaurot is fucking
skerple
intense
es un elote
es un elote
it's so good
Lea
Bye Emet. You were best villain.
Lea
EW's gonna be hard-pressed to match up.
Lea
Also, no shade on Answers or Dragonsong or Measure of his Reach, but my gosh is the song that plays over the credits for ShB the best by far.
Lea
Oh shit, that's one hell of a post-credits scene.
Lea
Did... did Zenos just prevent Black Rose from getting used? Ever?
es un elote
yes.
es un elote
zenos is great because he's an agent of pure chaos.
Lea
If you get in the way of him throwing down with the WoL you gonna die
Lea
Not that he probably needed much pushing to kill his father, really...
Lea
So with the 5.0 questline done I'm going to split my attention between continuing the MSQ and leveling up the ShB classes.
Lea
Starting with Gunbreaker, because why not.
skerple
Gunbreaker is good shit
Lea
Discovering that "gun" in FFXIV came from gunblade, which came from a group of royal guards naming their weapons after their queen, is kind of amazing.
Lea
Suddenly referring to guns as female makes total sense.
skerple
some of the shit you end up dealing with in the gunbreaker quests gets Heavy though fyi
skerple
like, drugs and human trafficking and torture heavy
skerple
it's all treated respectfully it's just very, You See Some Shit In This Line Of Work
pastel ranma
Yeah, Dark Knight is the most personal but damned if the Gunblade plot doesn't go into the heavy shit.
Lea
I do like the teacher. Big friendly Ronso with a tragic past and his Viera buddy!
Lea
And while VIII has always been the FF that most disappointed me, XIV makes the whole gunblade idea actually work.
skerple
it really does
skerple
I appreciate how many of the animations are straight up just "You're Squall now"
Lea
Or Seifer! The way you hold the gunblade when you've got it drawn is a dead ringer for everyone's least favorite knight.
skerple
Yeah, that too!
Lea
Of course, now I am obligated to play gunbreaker at some point in a Trust party with Y'Shtola.
Lea
There being no other sorceresses around.
Lea
So, gunbreaker seems to be really good for deep dungeons
Lea
Like I just tore through 21-30 HoH and I never once felt in real danger.
Lea
Oh boy, my friends' souls are slowly losing their connection to their bodies!
Lea
Ghost scions!
Lea
Oh hey, the first post-game dungeon for ShB.
Lea
So The Grand Cosmos is just "what if you actually had to fight Matoya?" the dungeon.
skerple
god, you're so right
Lea
I am now going to be fascinated by the idea of which characters were once part of the same Amarotian.
es un elote
i am always thinking about this
Lea
I mean the implication is, I think, that every spoken race is descended from the lines of the ancients after being split up and sent through the cycle of reincarnation so
Lea
Like, where's the First's incarnation of, say, Sadu?
skerple
in a questline that unlocks after you've done all the role quests, there's a strong implication that two characters are corresponding shards like you and Ardbert
Lea
Neat!
skerple
also there's one character in the dwarf tribe quests who some players theorize, not unreasonably, is Nero's counterpart on the First
Lea
(Granted, the First being the First it's likely the incarnations there have been Sin Eaterified but it's not a guarantee!)
Lea
Also, Voidsent.
Lea
Who once shared a soul with Diabolos?
skerple
and the more Sin Eaters get killed off the more souls are trickling back into the reincarnation cycle, too
Lea
Who is our incarnation in the Void? I don't think it's Unukulhai, he seems more like an analog for... Alphinaud, maybe?
Lea
This is such a fascinating piece of worldbuilding
skerple
but yeah I believe the implication is that all player races descended from the sundered Ancients and all non-player races are the ones that arose on their own after Zodiark's ascension
skerple
Unukalhai is actually one of the kids I was talking about in the post-rolequest stuff!
Lea
In-ter-est-ing...
skerple
wait shit that's going into spoiler territory
skerple
deletes that comment
skerple
but yeah it reads to me like Unukalhai is a shard of either this other kid, or this other kid's best friend from back in the day
es un elote
I tend to prefer the latter interpretation because it makes me emo
Lea
Okay! So 5.1 had one heck of an ending!
Lea
Glad Estinien took out that new proto-Ultima. But now we have the empire flailing about at itself, some new Ascian showing up to help Zenos find Zodiark, and... Ardbert alive and clean-shaven.
Lea
What
skerple
AH YOU'VE MET FUNNY DAN
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