๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i rate myself "comfortable" in my gender identity but man i recoil at being referred to as a "girlie"
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
is this a sign of me aging out of the "with it" vocabulary? probably, but i'm fine with that.
July, July
Honestly, same.
July, July
There's implications/vibes to that one I'm not with.
6LilacMimeLions
it's very infantilizing
6LilacMimeLions
granted, lots of terms for women are
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
many terms millennials use to describe themselves, as well
three
misogyny in lots of weird terms it's so hard for me personally to even start to be "comfortable" with gender because i never know what's dysphoria and what's just misogyny in my head
6LilacMimeLions
my speech patterns run more towards "'bitch' is a term of endearment" so i might just be in the wrong subculture entirely to appreciate it
direwolfenoot
imo it's v ironic and similar to bitch as a term of endearment, 'the girlies' and 'the lads' should be interchangeable
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
oh i know it's ironic but it still bugs me. i don't often use the word bitch but it doesn't bother me the same way.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i do not believe the ironic girlie is a high feminist speech crime i just must voice my personal and perhaps idiosyncratic dislike.
direwolfenoot
that's fair!! I hate all figurative uses of eating
6LilacMimeLions
like "what's eating you?" for "what's wrong?"
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i mean, there are definitely discussions to be had about the politics of ironic language like this but i don't want to pretend that's why i don't like the word.
direwolfenoot
like oh she ATE out there
direwolfenoot
unnecessarily biological!! kind of gross!!!
6LilacMimeLions
i don't even know what that means
6LilacMimeLions
fetch my cane and and orthopedic shoes
ELPHIE
https://images.plurk.com/6TUxJRRe2MaNgKtd2zF3e3.png related.
direwolfenoot
Fancam Assembly - SNL
feels relevant
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
three internalized misogyny is indeed a bitch
space witch
gross
HEY LADY
Valid To Dislike
July, July
Also I'm pretty sure girlie is more gen z, I've mainly seen it from zoomers rather than millennials.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
yes but perhaps... they learned it from us?
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
honestly where it really gets me is newsletter marketing language!!
three
it feels like co-opted gen z language from gay male millennials around where i am anyways
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
I do not mind girlie/girly as an adjective but I think I might be a little on the dislike side in cases where it is a noun
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
that's a good point, the adjectival girly doesn't bother me so much
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
I feel like the noun usage is just trying to be cute
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
But I still don't liiiiiiike ittttttt
๐•˜๐•’๐•ค๐Ÿ’ก ๐Ÿšง๐•œ๐•–๐•–๐•ก ๐Ÿ‘ง๐••๐•’๐••
Yeah I do feel like an immediate recoil to the word being used as a noun, doubly so if it's referring to me
HEY LADY
I do enjoy it, in part because it does feel silly, so I'll probably still use it like. on Tumblr and among friends. But 1) I can certainly understand WHY it would be disliked so 2) I will refrain on plurk, knowing people here dislike it.
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im someone who would refer to myself with girlies but i def understand the recoil
ส‹ษ›ส€ส ษ–ส€ฮฑษขึ…ีผ
if it brings any comfort just assume any time you hear girlies and you don't want it to include you, redirect it to be about your friend olesia, who is most of the girlies and gets counted multiple times
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hay
Lassarina
The only person I have encountered who used that to address another person is someone I loathe who was addressing someone I like a lot and it was obviously intended as an insult so. I'm right with you on the dislike.
direwolfenoot
I have never seen it used to refer directly to another person in this context?? it's mostly 'the girlies,' 'the fandom girlies' etc.
direwolfenoot
I have seen older men do that to disparage women but also like, there are a lot of words they use
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i think having direct experience with older men who use it as a disparaging term is really enough reason to dislike it in the casual/ironic sense, as applied to oneself. i don't think that's why i dislike it, though, i think i just instinctively hate all babytalk/cutesy terms. (stop saying "pupper" i shout from the rooftops at nobody.)
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
but "i don't like this for me" isn't the same thing as "i don't like this for thee"
HEY LADY
Oh for sure. There are plenty of terms I donโ€™t wanna apply to myself that I am all for other people enjoying. The other day I learned the words โ€œneurospicyโ€ and โ€œneurosparklyโ€ and my thought was โ€œwow I read that with my eyes and suddenly there is violence in my heart, yet at the same time I canโ€™t deny that at age 12 I would have absolutely loved and used itโ€
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
yeah!! also neurosparkly is a new one to me.
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