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[TOH finale!] https://images.plurk.com/7KvcCZqIK38i96C5t1lnEk.jpg
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I said I was gonna do this yesterday but I. lied
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\o/
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partly because I wound up in a really bad mood about disney but
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ANYWAY
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my thoughts still aren't organized but here we go
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for the most part I really loved it!!
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I wanted a lot more lore answers but realistically there wasn't time so, overall I'm glad that instead of trying to crunch it in they just gave us a solid plot
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And on the whole I loved said plot!
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the whole 'overhearing the worst part of a conversation you could hear' trope grated on me a little in FTF so I'm glad the misunderstanding with the Collector wasn't like, the whole or even main issue
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and I'm glad the gang was kind to this child
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to be fair I didn't really expect anything else in this show
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but I love him trying his best and Luz being nice about him making a terrible call with reaching out to Philip
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and their history with the archivists was honestly even sadder than I expected
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don't use them as a distraction they are baby
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also! I was really happy Collector got they/them as well as he/him in this episode
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vs that just being a thing that was said on twitter
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Luz's fakeout death was genuinely beautiful and made me cry
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I expected one but I didn't expect it to be Luz
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and I LOVED the Titan
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I wasn't sure if I was sold on the theory that the Titan Luz saw was him
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but I'm glad it was and I. Love him.
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https://images.plurk.com/3TNaoee5zkgCpaUu3Ft54j.jpg I was DYING I love
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the bad girl coven shirt!!!
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I have so many questions about the eye hooty
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so many
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but my favourite thing was him literally asking if this teenager was drunk and pointing out that no, Belos doesn't genuinely mean well. He's just a bigot.
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which brings us to. Philip Wittebane. my beloathed
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I was pretty onboard the theory he was going to possess the titan so that didn't surprise me
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but it was very cool and well done and I LOVED the imagery
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I loved the fungal/rot imagery, I loved the amount of body horror
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I loved him saying he was going to cleanse this perdition for anyone who still wasn't catching exactly what sort of bigot he was
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Yes~
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I'm also... kinda glad we didn't circle back to Caleb and Evelyn. Which I feel bad saying because on a LORE level I want answers and I want more context for Hunter etc etc
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but on a thematic level I'm glad we didn't get any flashbacks that made him look sympathetic. I'm glad we didn't spend time on WHY he was mad at Caleb
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because it doesn't. fucking. matter
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I loved the finale too. I felt bad for the Collector and glad he was put on the path to redemption.
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Sharkleberry I loved the collector so much
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but yeah. as much as I think an important part of the theme is the fact that Caleb was able to see witches as people and Philip never was

even that kinda doesn't matter
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maybe Caleb actually was a bad person! Maybe Caleb fully betrayed him!! Nothing Caleb could have done is an excuse for genocide
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or his treatment of Hunter
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they're just a poor kid who doesn't know any better
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Sharkleberry I knowwww and as much as we had to speedrun it I do think his arc was well done
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yeah.
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maybe now Dana can answer more lore questions.
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I hope so!
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but yeah
at the end of the day our villain was a shitty 1600s puritan colonialist who could have changed and. chose not to
despite living among these people for 400 years
and no amount of backstory changes that
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and I am. SO glad Luz didn't fall for his bullshit at the end for even a second
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and that he got no mercy
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and that the narrative was actively against the whole but that makes you as bad as them
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I'm glad he died and the boiling isles helped kill him.
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Yeah!
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right!
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I saw that as Luz summoning the rain
but also the titan
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sometimes you and your partner and your child just have to graphically stomp a man's skull in until
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I'm also gonna circle back to them but I'm so glad Raine was able to be an active part of fighting and killing him
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sometimes you and your partner and her child just have to graphically stomp a man's skull in until he stops talking and I think that's beautiful =)
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lol
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it's what he deserved
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I'm glad it was a happy ending.
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where Luz didn't have to choose.
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YES
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I was so glad we didn't get a separation ending it would not have fit the themes at all
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and speaking of themes
time to circle back to Raine Whispers my beloved
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so much of their arc has been people trying to control them from Terra to the coven system to Terra's actual brainwashing attempt to literally being both a puppet and possessed
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and I'm glad they got some AGENCY
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they didn't stop him on their own but they had the strength to kick Belos out and that was excellent
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my bard refusing to be controlled
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and confirmation they are a very powerful witch
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also seeing them again, actively part of the fight especially using their specific brand of bard magic with the whistling
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was very good
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I also love that they're in some high position at the end? maybe leading the isles??
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I love that they're doing well.
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even if we didn't really. learn a whole lot new
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which reminds me: Eda
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I didn't get any new facts or like, characterization I wasn't expecting
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honestly I just got a lot of like. confirmation I had stuff right
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little things I was worried I was overplaying/being self indulgent with
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but no she is in fact. extremely cuddly with Raine and lays on them like a large annoying cat
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and big things like I really wanted her to be working with kids and/or teaching by the end and she IS
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she looks so HAPPY
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and sober
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It's just so good to see this woman with her shit together
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I'm so happy I'm so proud of her
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and I am. Incredibly glad she and Raine both lived because killing them off would have been horrible with their arcs but I was worried
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also while I was hoping for more info on the owlbeast I am REALLY glad the curse never got 'cured'
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because again, an awful message if it had
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with her arc as it was
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I do really want to know about her big big six winged form
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whether that's something she can do if she's mad enough orrr if she was being powered up by King
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I'm guessing the later since the Titan was able to give Luz a titan form
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and that titan form was GREAT
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not just because it looked good
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but thematically chef's kiss
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I'm glad her final form wasn't Azura
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because that wouldn't have shown her growth and bonds etc etc
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so I love that she looked like. her family
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horns like king, little fang and eyes like Eda
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but ALSO. her hair grown out and the like same curl pattern as Camilla's
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I just. again chef's kiss
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off the top of my head that's the biggest stuff I was gonna say about the main episode
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the credits/epilogue were very bittersweet because of how much character development had to be offscreen but I'll take it
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we can assume Lilith had arc from the fact she can be a harpy now
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and I love that Hunter is making palismen
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and I love Waffle
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she's adorable
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and loving new things/pets/people doesn't change how important the friends you've lost were/are
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and the gang's flapjack tattoos are very sweet
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I love that they all got the tattoo
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I was hoping we'd get flapjack back what with knowing palisman souls stay around but. we probably did need one character death that stuck
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I definitely love that they all got the tattoo
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I also love that the collector is keeping in touch
because I don't trust this kid to do more growing up without any guidance
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and also worry about the other archivists being an issue but
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so yeah! overall loved it
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but I am. mad about no raeda kiss/confirmation
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and disclaimer yes I want them to kiss for like, fandom reasons but that's not why it bothers me
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what bothers me is getting another Lumity kiss, getting an mlm kiss with extremely minor characters

and not getting one for the couple that involves a trans/nonbinary person.
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they are heavily IMPLIED
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what with all the cuddling and the earring swap
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but the wlw and mlm couples can have rep that isn't implied
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and I want to know if this was a Disney decision.
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everything else I will take as lack of screentime
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but hell I'd take. a wedding photo on luz's photo wall
or less pretty shots of the isles in the credits
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also on a character level I'm sad they have almost no actual dialogue together and no real. conversation
because we don't really touch back on Eda's emotional stuff in any capacity except the nightmare bit
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thematically we get a lot of stuff I'm gnawing on because it's what we have
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like. Eda hugging Raine in harpy mode without a second thought after all the hiding the curse from them
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because that's both. growth for her view of herself but also growth for her view of others
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because she's not assuming rejection before it happens.
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not only that but she. prioritizes giving their glasses back FIRST
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she could have just reassured them who she was aloud and hugged them first etc etc
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but instead they have the chance to react
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and they don't react badly because of course they don't but
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I already had a lot of feelings about them accepting harpy mode in FTF
on a themes level and not just an it was cute level
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and Raine whistling Raine's Rhapsody/Eda's Requiem to I guess stay sane
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was very good.
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also her being like, glued to their side/sprawling on top of them after they go through a traumatic event gives me a lot of feelings in the context of Avi saying Raine's love language is physical touch
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and in the context of my personal autistic raine headcanons and the fact I already played Eda as doing the tight hugs and laying on them for. comfort pressure reasons
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and even if it's not the confirmation I want the earring swap IS very sweet
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https://images.plurk.com/4NpyLnD0l3vop9M9vpODSP.jpg
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and I love Raine's drippy mascara tear scars.
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I was looking forward to what kind they'd get design-wise and I'm here for it
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I also like that Eda's dressed like captain hook but that's unrelated
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ANYWAY
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I'm gonna stop there for now.
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because I need to run errands.
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there are so many answers I hope we get in some capacity
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because I do want. any more on the owlbeast
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or Hunter being a Clawthorne confirmation
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or which titan bat queen belonged to
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at least we mostly know what happened to the other titans.
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Yepppp
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I feel so bad for collector
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and I definitely think it was one of the other archivists that captured the owlbeast
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btw I'm really curious to hear more thoughts from everyone! I just wanted to get mine down in one place fjdhsk
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