Vehrec
[40K] Let's talk about the Emperor and his genetics projects.
Vehrec
So THE EMPEROR first appeared under that name on earth around the year.... 28000, 29000?
Vehrec
at the time, Earth, cut off from the rest of the galaxy by warp-storms, robotic rebellions and other catastrophes had fallen from an ecumenopolis into post-atomic savagery.
Vehrec
it had been nuked, bio-weaponed, had it's oceans stolen, and was just generally a bad place to be, but it was still chock full of tech to loot, so the survivors crawling over the wreckage in places like Urush and Merica had plenty of laser guns to shoot at each other.
Vehrec
Techno-barbarians were chic and in fashion as mutants, psykers and such dominated the bulk of humanity and forced them to fight for them in ever-widening battles.
Vehrec
The Emperor emerged from his bunker under the Himalayas with his first big genetics project, the Custodes already at his side.
Vehrec
And in the year 40k, they still make Custodes like the Emperor did back then
Vehrec
slowly, painstakingly, custom-engineering each one from an infant into a transhuman demigod.
Vehrec
and they can only be recruited from a tiny fraction of humanity who are compatible in any way with those freakish transformations.
Vehrec
it takes like 30 years of effort by master geneticists to make a single Custodes, and while the golden boys are peerless, they're only ever available in numbers needed to guard the Emperor himself.
magnet
huh I hadn't noticed that Emps took over that late
Vehrec
so the Emperor looks around at how shitty the world is, says "Right, I'm in charge now, you can't be trusted to run things" and immediately runs into the problem of everyone else is creating these mutant gene-warrior soldiers to fight for them.
magnet
that's like a sub-5k year reign before the Horus Heresy isn't it
Vehrec
The entire Great Crusade was like 300 years
Vehrec
so the Emperor needs more than just his custodes, he can only be in one place at a time
Vehrec
but as the custodes prove, he's pretty good at his gene-lore
Vehrec
so he creates THE THUNDER WARRIORS!
Vehrec
https://images.plurk.com/53q5fDa9prjqn3Q1P9v1p7.png Custodes
Vehrec
https://images.plurk.com/3Ic0tFt93ODl7SIExX5N9v.png Thunder Warrior (painted in Ultramarines colors for...reasons)
Vehrec
the Thunder Warriors were the definition of 'make do'
Vehrec
their 'power armor' didn't actually have fully powered legs which seems to be the most important part.
Vehrec
so they had to heft all the weight on their genetically enhanced legs
Vehrec
they were also unstable, in the sense that their genetics broke down rapidly and they started to go crazy as their brain chemistry altered unpredictably or get huge cancers.
Vehrec
being a Thunder Warrior sucked because your death was certain to come from either a bullet, a blade or your own biology betraying you
Vehrec
but they were fast and easy to make
Vehrec
you take an 19 year old kid, throw him in the gene tank for a week, and pull out a fully grown thunder warrior.
Vehrec
you can make so many thunder warriors to conquer the earth
Vehrec
But that whole genetic and mental instability problem troubled the emperor
Vehrec
he couldn't conquer the galaxy with these guys, big and impressive as they were.
Vehrec
so he starts winding down the Thunder Warrior lines and working on project 3: The Primarchs.
Vehrec
which might have actually been Project 1, but they were mostly finished third.
Rogal Dorn
Mark 1 armor also got used by astartes
Vehrec
it did, but I'm getting to that.
Vehrec
there are...conflicting reports on what went wrong with the Primarchs.
Rogal Dorn
That's why yje ultramarine paint job lol
Vehrec
some say a team of Chaos Marines from the future infiltrated the lab via a warp portal
Vehrec
some say that their immortal mom didn't want her boys to grow up to be the emperor's soulless tools.
Vehrec
some say...well, there are a lot of stories.
Vehrec
some even say the Emperor himself YEETED his kids out into the galaxy
Vehrec
but whatever the case, the Primarch Project was ended and the Astardes project began.
Vehrec
using samples of the Primarchs, the emperor and his scientists created the more stable Astardes process, which did take longer and produced actually smaller and weaker warriors than the Thunder Warriors.
Vehrec
but crucially, Astardes were stable and controllable
Vehrec
indeed, they even included some handy brainwashing to prevent all that troublesome instability that had so plagued the Thunder Warriors with their mostly human minds suddenly being altered unevenly.
Vehrec
much more loyal, more dependable
Vehrec
The Emperor didn't need the Thunder Warriors anymore
Vehrec
now: pop quiz
Vehrec
how did the Emperor deal with his surplus warriors? Did he:
A: Throw them into battle after battle, letting attrition deal with his problem.
B: Engineer the thunder warriors back into mortal soldiers.
C: Stabilize them by turning them into Space Marines.
D: Have them all murdered by the Custodes after a major battle?
Rogal Dorn
A and D
Vehrec
Yes, the answer is indeed A & D both, because why just betray them once when you can betray your loyal soldiers twice?
Vehrec
Rolling out the first Astardes legion was immediately follower by throwing the Thunder Warriors into a series of grinding, terrible battles, capped off with their mass execution
Vehrec
That's the Emperor for you, just a HUGE PILE OF DICKS.
Master Chieve
He's not great
Vehrec
so when the Emperor said "I am now returning to my laboratories to work on NEW PROJECTS" near the end of the Great Crusade.
Vehrec
lots of the Space Marines and Primarchs got very quietly but intensely worried that they were about to be Thunder Warriored as surplus to requirements and replaced by something new.
Vehrec
after all, he'd done it once before
Vehrec
and if they'd conquered the galaxy, why would he need legions of super-soldiers?
Vehrec
the actual project, btw, was an attempt to get into/steal the Webway.
Vehrec
but the Emperor wasn't telling anyone that.
EsperBot
If he had it could have prevented several problems
Master Chieve
A lot of the problems in the 40k universe were preventable
Master Chieve
The Emperor could have done a lot to reassure Horus before it got to the point it did
Master Chieve
The Old Ones could have exterminated the Necrontry
Master Chieve
The Eldar could have NOT gotten into creepy torture porn
Master Chieve
Listen, if anyone deserves to be Kinkshamed
Master Chieve
Its the Eldar
Vehrec
they still deserve kinkshaming
Master Chieve
Some more than others
Rogal Dorn
What snorting a drug made of human souls off wyches ass is totally normal shut up
Vehrec
anyways, there's a guy named Cawl who's actually a collection of brains in jars working together who after 10,000 years finally worked all the bugs out of an Improved Space Marine line.
Vehrec
Finally getting them back up to Thunder Warrior size and strength, enhanced durability to make up for being bigger targets, and only a slight increase in the odds of a total systemic meltdown, and that's only if you've got them entombed in a Dreadnaught.
Rogal Dorn
Don't look at him using traitor Geneseed lines shhh
Vehrec
traitor geneseed is fine, it's still the Emperor's handiwork
Rogal Dorn
He had about half the primarch project info and a bunch of stuff from the Luna gene cults who were the people eho helped (ie were violently compelled) to help big E mass produce astartes
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