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[CS4 | spoilers] FINALLY FINISHED AAAAAAAAAAAAA-- /rips off shirt!!
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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134 HOURS
Ken
is that all
Ken
I think my final time was around 149. Or so.
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oh my god
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I can't believe there was a normal ending and a true ending
Ken
time for Reverie! Don't worry, it's considerably shorter, AND THAT'S WITH PADDING.
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/weeps into hands
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I can take a break until July I guess!!
Ken
try not to think about how you're still three games behind
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I'm not even going to try to beat the Crossbell games before Reverie
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Maybe if I beat them already and wanted to attempt a speedrun but that life ain't me
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https://i.imgur.com/HJy059X.png Olivert you won so hard
Ken
oh I was talking about Reverie and both Kuros
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/cries more
Ken
at minimum you may want to look into some stuff about Crossbell's games because Reverie is both CS5 but also mostly Crossbell 3.
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He lucked so hard making Class VII... No one would've expected all of that craziness involving Ishmelga
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Ken : And yeah, I'll def. brush up regarding Crossbell games since I did like SSS team
Ken
try not to stare too hard at the coincidences that all happen to line up, you'll go blind that way
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https://i.imgur.com/QTJcDsS.png https://i.imgur.com/ea7vTi5.png His smile and optimism restored
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Good job, Rean
Ken
all it took was for the best boy to die o_o
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https://i.imgur.com/ZIqxjNr.png Valimar
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will never hear his ACKNOWLEDGED again
Ken
you understand
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It just won't be the same without him
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https://i.imgur.com/igRnxTn.png https://i.imgur.com/RxAWWIe.png Osborne was like "wow if I knew you'd kicked this ass, I would've been a better dad--"
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Sen no Kiseki IV OST - Majestic Roar
10/10 boss theme... GREAT ANTAGONIST
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he turned out to be The Coolest Guy® in the end but boy did he carry these games on his back
Ken
I'll admit, I was kinda lukewarm on Osborne as the villain until literally the 11th hour, his boss fight and everything leading into and out of it
Ken
hardest Divine Knight fight, too
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It's one of those things that retroactively makes everything he did prior a lot stronger, imo
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I agree! He absolutely lived up to the hype
Ken
But like. It was hard in a way that felt fair. I didn't LOSE, just.
Ken
Got my shit PUSHED IN.
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Beating him.
Ken
Made the actual final battle just feel like a victory lap.
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I had a pretty hard time too
Ken
(Which it was, I had Rean paired with Roselia, Aurelia, and Victor. I mean... just lol.)
Kia
you did it, good job!!
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https://i.imgur.com/3J8GZKG.png https://i.imgur.com/7VlXbyC.png https://images.plurk.com/1B72djf3Rd8lhnRjiXlXDL.png I'm still really conflicted on the whole Ishmelga thing but I've played enough JRPGs to know it always ends with some evil cosmic entity born from human malice or something
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It reminds me of Jenova from FF7 but Jenova was far more mysterious and unsettling
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Ken : Roselia, Aurelia and Victor are like the "I Win" buttons in the party
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Kia : THANK YOU!!!
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I have finally walked the Trails of Cold Steel fully
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https://i.imgur.com/6FBNgoj.png Rean-san you finally learned to say no and stand up for yourself
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https://i.imgur.com/shK874d.png The McBurn fight was probably the juicest as far as lore goes... There was a lot to think about there
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Same goes for the Campanella/Mariabell fight where we learn a little more about what Ouroboros is up to but not really
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as always it's "Fufu... Wouldn't YOU like to know?"
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https://i.imgur.com/Owdbn1C.png Kevin.... come home
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when will I play you again
Ken
still sittin' with my mcburn theories not knowing if anything in the future games debunks them and afraid to voice them in case someone swings in and does so
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I've got my own Mcburn theories but I fully expect them to be wrong like 5 more games down the line... Kondo is just Epstein/Ka-fai
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I fully expect Ka-Fai to show up in like the final game since he's been hyped up for so long
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And hmmm should I do my hot take tier list of CS games?
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thinking about it, I say CS2 > CS3 > CS1 > CS4 in terms of my personal most to least favorite games (thinking)
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But I love all of them for different reasons
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I didn't hate CS4 at all but it was really long and some plot points were contrived, but I'm very satisfied with the ending... Rean finally gets a break (for now)
Ken
i like CS2 a lot better than a lot of the fandom, so I'm semi-with you on that. I had some issues with how the old Class VII were handled in the second half, but I actually think I like the new Class VII better as a group, they seemed to get like. A better more evenly spread amount of development I felt, so the second half ends up a bit higher for me
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IN SPITE OF my qualms, there's just. So Much Game.
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CS1 was the awkward start... Some of my issues was how some of the conflicts with Old Class VII felt forced like Fie vs. Laura and the characters are at the most cookie cutter but I'd still replay it through
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It was comfy school simulator when things were far simpler
Ken
I love CS1 a lot, it's what got me playing the entire franchise, but I just like what spins out of it better
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I kinda want to replay it now since I do miss the old school shenanigans
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I've been slowly picking at it on Steam Deck
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but I also understand that like, CS4 can be a really exhausting game to get through even if you love it
Ken
it's so fucking long
Ken
like none of it is unearned
Ken
but
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god
Ken
it's long
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CS3 was like a CS1 remake and it answered a lot of my issues with CS1 with having a smaller group that are more intertwined with the deeper plot, having Rean as a teacher was really neat, the graphics are better and the ending is HOLY SHIT WHAT
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And yeah, I think New Class VII was better handled than Old Class VII
Ken
if i'd had to wait more than the minute it took me to swap discs after CS3 I think I would've lost my mind
Ken
the most ABRUPT of cliffhanger endings
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CS2 is my absolute favorite... It did have some issues but I adored the start of Rean having to build himself back up from nothing, gathering everyone together again, the side quests felt like we were seeing him build his experience to the hero he'd become later
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Then it all comes tumbling down with Osborne Daddy, Crow dying, Rufus being an Ironblood-- LOTS OF EMOTIONAL PUNCHES
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Lloyd vs. Rean was a cool fight and Reverie corridor was a nice little final send off for Old Class VII (at that time)
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I can see why people wouldn't like CS2 since the pacing is a bit all over the place since you have technically three endings and the middle half can feel a bit weak if you don't like doing the side quests
Ken
CS2's only real problem is that it's like Return of the King and keeps ending
Ken
talking about it is funny because I'll talk about like

the final boss

and then go

"no not that one, the other one"
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CS2 pushes the plot in many new directions for the second half so it really did feel like you're graduating from high school and stepping into the real world now
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quite literally in Rean's case
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but who did your rean end up with
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also surprised you don't just want to go right into zero/azure and just get to reverie later
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though I guess if you already jumped over them for CS3/4 doesn't really matter at this point lmao
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My Rean romance adventures are pretty funny since I paired him up with Alisa in CS1 so that's who he ended up with in CS2
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But CS3, I accidentally hooked him up with Laura, then wanted to see if I could pair up with anyone else still and got away with getting him with Emma and Alisa
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No consequences at all
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CS4, I had Rean date multiple people but paired him with Alisa again just to be consistent and close the loop... My Rean was a manwhore but his heart came back to his first one
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Personally, I'm an Emma stan all the way... HOT WITCH WIFE
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Fie is a solid choice too since she gets hot in Kuro which I've already played... I've already ruined my chances of beating these games in order (yay)
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https://i.imgur.com/D9SEdiR.png these were my final list of choices... I wish you could've romanced Doobie since I would've loved to see flustered around in a date
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I know Elise was a choice too but I wasn't going to Sweet Home Erebonia this
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I'm surprised Gaius, Elliot and Machias were implied to be dating people or had people going for them... Good for them
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Everyone else is either being workaholics, studying the blade or just living the sigma grindset
Ken
I went with Towa, partly because it’s the only option you can choose in every game and not be utterly contracdicted into the ground by CS3

Stares at it and CS2
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Towa is a wholesome girl all around... She had a great dynamic with Rean throughout the games and she doesn't have a batshit background, no crazy family bloodline linked to prophecies
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and her family is really comfy... The most normal choice and normal is good considering how crazy these games are
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I think she was my third choice as I was breaking things down
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I am a Fie enjoyer
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I was with Laura the first two though... but Fie was always second choice and eventually won the battle
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went with rather
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AGI build beat out the STR build in the end
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I knew you were a Fie man
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but yeah both are peak at their builds... no wonder they work well together
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It was pretty funny when I did Laura's connect event and she just kisses Rean out of nowhere
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I was like "WHOA WHOA I DIDN'T ROMANCE YOU FOR THE FIRST TWO GAMES"
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https://i.imgur.com/PreVjrz.png and finished the Northern War anime and even they're doing this
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Rean's epic gamer moment wasn't as bad as he made it out to be in the anime but CS3 showed us that it def. fucked with his head a bit
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So it's consistent... Rean did freak out about protecting Elise and going Ogre in the past once so it makes sense
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Other than that, 200% expect Lavi's group to appear as NPCs in future games or mentioned offhandedly
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OH and I think Jayna will return as an Enforcer or some enemy in a future game... There was no body found at the end of the incident
Ken
I thought if your Kevin comment when I watched that this morning
Ken
I felt Rean’s freak out was really flat in how it was portrayed here versus how he views it in CS3 though
Ken
A biiiit disappointed
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Why does Falcom hate Kevin so much
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And YEAH they really could've added more drama to Rean going ogre since Altina was almost overprotective of him in CS3
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but Rean wakes up after a few days and acts like nothing happened
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I did laugh at Lavi being like "I never want to see you again :/" YEAH WE'LL ABOUT THAT
Ken
I did like that and the hints of “ah you’d probably be an okay teacher”
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We even got a Roselia cameo!!
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I wonder how different this would've felt if we were getting CS3 like next month
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I'm pretty sure Lavi is getting shipped off to whatever weird mobile game she's being put in
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banished from the main timeline...
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(though I didn't really care for her so not a huge loss in my eyes)
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All we needed to know was that she was The Grandchild of a Great Hero®
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They said EIYUU so many times in this show
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yeah seriously lol
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Apparently they were also playing with the idea of having the anime being focused on Crow and his adventure in Jurai... And that could've been really interesting since we still haven't seen Jurai
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and it could've been a neat prequel before Cold Steel starts but I guess they would have to risk revealing too much about Crow too soon
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(for newcomers anyway)
Ken
In spite of being NW themed, the game is a general Trails gacha seemingly, the pre registration bonus is Elie. So who knows what story in that thing will actually entail.
Ken
As with Akatsuki no Kiseki though they’ve been really reluctant to make mobile game stuff hard necessary canon so that makes it even more bizarre and I have no idea what they’re doing
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HUH WEIRD
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It's so strange that they're using such an important event in the main story for a gacha game unless we're getting alternative timelines
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Meant
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But considering how Trails is.... Multi timelines isn't too out there lmao
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