[DC/RP] Pinky Hood this post immediately made me appreciate your Jason so much more. he's improving not because of romantic love for one person, but caring about a lot of people. and he's not one dropped note away from completely backsliding

that feels so very like "i'll stop doing murders if you date me" too like

One of the biggest reasons why I hate Three Jokers and grateful it's not considered "main" canon. Fuck, it was a bad writing choice

It's a lot more endearing to see him go "fuck. shit. I have to feel the children"

and like be a role model????

like if/when hunter finds out he does lots of murders and is scared of him he'll like...care? about what that means?

"shit venting my spleen through violence is putting people I care about in danger. and I can't stop caring about people"

There were a few more times (Batman and Robin Eternal) when Jason/Babs was attempted and it was just as bad. I don't understand why this was a thing and thank God it's stopped now

And yes. Thank you, guys. This is essentially the projection I much prefer

because Babs is the default for shipping with Batcast

as the Only Constant Girlk

Jason's got way more chemistry with Artemis but that's a whole other topic

korel: If or when Hunter finds, it's going to be so bad and Jason truly will feel so awful about it

re: other "redeeming love" pairings, while I don't think Terry/Melanie could work out long-term, one of the things I appreciate about it is that she didn't want to get out of crime just to be with Terry. but so many fans and often the officially published sequels write it that way

that is defs gonna be a go cling to eda and try not to cry moment for hunter

Forever salty about DC never explaining how Jason got back with the BatFamily. It could be such a great analysis of how redemption works (or not work) when there's so much trauma involved

The Urban Legends story is the closest thing we have to a Jason redemption arc so I'll take it

"he was drugged by Ra's and Talia and thus wasn't responsible at the time"

Yeeeeah, I'm not too big of a fan of the Lazarus Pit explanation either. It's not even consistently applied and his stunt as a crime lord was a looooong and calculated move

I much prefer the movie's explanation which is "yeah, it might explain a few things at first but..."

Batman vs. Red Hood

About a minute and 40 seconds in

korel: It would fucking hurt for Jason to see Hunter be so afraid of him because it's the very opposite of what he wants. But Hunter would be very rightfully scared

One issue with redeeming love pairs is that having it hinge on just one person's mutual feelings so the other could change all of their ways feels disingenuous

It feels like an uneven burden? idk if I'm wording this right but yeah

Nothing wrong with wanting to change for someone you care about but when there's that much at stake, it feels questionable