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[meme] yeah I checked my muselist and the most "villainous" character I have a journal for is Theon Greyjoy
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and he's not so much a villain as he is just a fucked-up dude shaped by his circumstances and torn between cultures that both dislike something intrinsic about him
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everybody else is at least on the somewhat grubby end of the light side
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oh I do have a Sharpay Evans journal
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me, storming into this plurk to start a fight
me, backing down when u explain further
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and she's more of a classic villain but like. also, she's a high school mean girl
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THEON........
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arguably the villain of acok only
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he was a hostage since he was a kid! Ned Stark did his best but Theon couldn't forget he was on the chopping block if his father decided to fuck things up AND HIS DAD STILL FUCKED IT UP ANYWAY
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i UNDERSTAND actually laughing about sharpay TECHNICALLY being more of a true villain than theon tho
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he's not even a GOOD one he's just kinda trying too hard
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WHEEZES YEAH.......Sharpay honestly does fit the definition better but also lbr compared to what Theon pulled in ACOK she comes off looking kinda small potatoes
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aw you're stealing songs for yourself and jazzing them up. how cute
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this dude stole his best friend's castle
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yeah I mean, ned would have probably said screw it and launched an attack on pyke,
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she lives in new mexico, what else was she supposed to do?
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(starks get a navy lord manderly is begging you)
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harrenhalloween : Balon Greyjoy is a good character but also I hate his fuckin guts
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"pay the iron price" OR YOU KNOW. just take the stupid offer
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he's the worst. the most interesting thing about him is that he married alannys harlaw but we don't even get to hear his thoughts on that
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๐”ฐ๐”ฑ๐”ฏ๐”ž๐”ค๐”ฑ๐”ฅ๐”ฆ๐”ซ๐”ค ๐Ÿฆ‡ : idk there's some spare castles in Europe, she's rich, she can take over a couple
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WHY SACK LANNISPORT WHEN YOU CAN GET THE LARGEST AND POOREST OF THE SEVEN KINGDOMS
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I care deeply about Theon and I want him to be okay! I would strangle Balon myself.
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yes they can barely defend their shorelines. how are you going to do it,
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i think someone should au sharpay into westeros now
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your strategy plans make NO FUCKING SENSE like ABSOLUTELY NONE
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leave him alone, hE'S TRYING HIS BEST
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I mean yes narratively they make sense given the man's motivations and how he clings tightly to The Old Ways and his grudge. but also YOUR STRATEGY IS STUPID AND YOU'RE AN IDIOT
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oh my god Westerosi Sharpay
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she'd thrive in the court
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oh......
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..........Sharpay is just Cersei
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and Ryan is a gay Jaime Lannister
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oh god i forgot sharpay was a twin too PLEASE
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I think both of them are a lot less inclined to murder
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even in asoiaf where everyone does murder
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they do not have tywin's toxic influence. if stymied they would probably flounce off to braavos and become wildly successful performers/courtesans/playwrights which is probably what ryan wanted all along anyway
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god yes and Sharpay just wants Attention
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also I just realized. morally speaking the most morally ambiguous character I have is Percy
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everybody else has Lines and then there's Percy and Theon in the fucked-up hot mess making morally unsound decisions corner
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and Elphaba's not a villain tbh
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Yeah I agree about Theon. He's like maybe "the villain" in Bran's ACOK storyline, and to an extent in Robb's, but mostly he's just a fucked-up kid with bad understandable priorities.
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He's more of a catalyst for stuff that happens than any kind of major antagonist.
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maybe that is what grrm means by asoiaf not having real villains
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to me it's like.......theon is so disproportionately punished that he ceases to have enough bastard qualities to even qualify as a poor little meow meow
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I love an au where theon does retain enough bastard qualities to be a poor little meow meow and asha's annoying little brother
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he really isn't a villain! just a little bit of a mess. he's ONE of the antagonists in Bran's storyline but Ramsay Snow fucked him over so
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and then the whole Thing in ADWD. my poor guy.
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it's less "poor little meow meow" at this point and more "I need to feed this man soup and put a blanket over him holy shit"
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'this man needs urgent medical attention'
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one thing that the show managed to accidentally get across is that he's really the cat to jeyne's robb for that arc
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ha ha I could talk about this forever
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WHEEZES YEAH I never thought of it like that but oooof you're right
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I think about jeyne poole so much I have an account
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you ruined a perfectly good meow meow is what you did. look at it it's gender dysphoria
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