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[family shit] ahahahahaha oh my god. Cynthia needs to fucking chill out and pick up a hobby or something.
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I may relay some things out of order because it was just this insane thing and I don't want to forget anything.
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So I invite my inlaws over fairly frequently. Each time Cynthia swears they're coming. I clean the whole house, I clean their room, and without fail, they text or call with "sorry, we don't feel comfortable leaving the cats with a sitter" or "sorry, not feeling great".
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I've given up inviting them over. Even Passover was a will-they-won't-they struggle because they had a room for one night in a hotel. They came for passover, then felt they 'needed' to get back home for some reason and took off without staying in the hotel. Which is a five hour round trip
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So Sergio when we were dating would get his hopes up and then inevitably be let down again and I was sick of seeing it. My opinion of my inlaws by the time we married had hit the part where I'm like "It'd be nice to see them, but I'm not going to stress out until I see them in the flesh on my doorstep" and that's worked out pretty well for me
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So we were up in Vermont this weekend.
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We were supposed to have the Pip with us but he was like "fuck Vermont" and died on Monday.
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So it was Mom,me, Sergio, and Frankie
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And we had called up Cynthia and asked about staying and she said "no" because she had Sergio's grandmother and we respected that and looked elsewhere for accommodation, but she offered to take Frankie and we said "sure that would be lovely."
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We come up to go to my mom's friend Ilona's Burning X party where we all dress as witches and burn shit that we want to get rid of from the last year and it's very cleansing
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HUGE SIGH at how inconsiderate the constant canceling is
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So we're looking around going like "Okay we want to maybe go poke around Bennington and hang out." and Sergio goes "Yeah I know I grew up there but I've never explored the town"
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" so Mom and me are like "Perfect. We'll drive up on Friday, drop off the cat, crash at the hotel, then Saturday we will go explore Bennington, that night we'll go to the party and then we will go home on Sunday."
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Cynthia is innundating me and Sergio in group texts for the whole week beforehand
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Talking about the places we should go and that my father-in-law works in Bennington so we should see him and photos and things
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Literally 50 texts
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And we answer none of them because if we answer them we get fifty more.
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and we already kinda knew what we wanted to do
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We get in, say hi, crash at Cynthia's place on Friday. Sergio's dad works on Friday so we don't see him but we get Frankie settled and she starts handing us passes and I'm like "Okay maybe we will but maybe we won't" and I takethem to be polite. and she starts giving us a million gifts because this is how she shows affection
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And they're all to things none of us have any interest in going to see. Like Civil War monuments but none of the cool battles, literally just an obelisk in the woods.
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And in the middle of all this activity (and previous plurk mention about hard drug parties and lesbian politics), Cynthia goes "Oh and Sergio's father is having foot surgery so you might want to see if you can grab a meal with him" and my mom says "Okay, maybe we will".
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We leave.
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We have a blast on Saturday.
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The Vermont woods where we're at has incredibly shitty service. Like "go twenty miles without ever getting a bar even in vague townie area" service.
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But in between the few servicable areas, I'm getting a movie an hour from Cynthia about my purry princess
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And it keeps running my battery low. My phone dies twice on Saturday from all the shit my mother in law is sending me
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So now it's today and we're going to pack up and go home and the question is "Should we go see Cynthia and Papa first, or go to breakfast at Ilona's because she invited us for brunch." and we universally decide to go to Ilona's because if we go to Cynthia's, we're gonna be there for three hours saying goodbye
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We head to Ilona's at 11, have brunch, head over to Cynthia's at 1pm
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My phone now has service. I'm getting text after text from Cynthia two hours ago about how it would be nice if we came over for food because Papa is a diabetic and he's waiting for us.
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And how she has to leave to go clean the AirBnB down the block
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Okay
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We go in and it's just Papa there and he hugs us and we hug him and we go to grab the kitty. I ask about his foot, he says yep, gonna get surgery. I say cool, okay, let us know if we can do anyhting. He's all smiles. We ask if he's eaten, he says yes.
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We get the cat, we say "hey, we'll stop off at the AirBnB before we leave to say good bye to Cynthia so she doesn't feel like she missed us." and he says that would be a good idea. Wave goodbye. Peace out
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We go up there. And Cynthia is waving at us and we're waving back and saying "Goodbye, sorry we can't come in, we have the cat, we're headed home but wanted to say thank you for watching her."
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"You're leaving now?"
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"Yeah we have to get back to work on Monday."
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her face fucking drops
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"No, Sergio, you said you were leaving Monday."
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"No I didn't. I said we had to work on Monday."
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"No, you said you were coming over Friday, Saturday and Sunday. I thought I would get an extra day with my grandkitty"
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"...Okay, but we're leaving now."
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"No, I understand that, but first, you didn't answer any of my texts about having food with papa so I assumed the answer would be yes"
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and I jump in with "Why would you assume the answer would be yes if we didn't answer?"
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"That's just how it works for us! I thought we agreed on Friday you would eat with papa! And he waited for you this morning! He's not supposed to wait because he's diabetic but he held on because he thought you would come by and then he skipped LUNCH-"
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And I cut in with "He should not have waited and he didn't skip lunch. I asked if he had eaten and he said yes."
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"Well, maybe he ate NOW, but he didn't when I was there, and I don't understand why you don't answer my texts, it was a group text."
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And I bring out my phone because I want to show her where it is in the mountain of read receipts I have on this enormous saga, squashed between a million "Frankie is so cute!!!" photos and videos and texts."
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And I'm looking at her going like "Okay, in the future, please do not assume that the answer is yes unless you get confirmation from one of us."
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And she starts going "In the future??? I never see you! I know we moved up here away from everyone but I don't know when you'll be here next and I didn't get to see you this trip at all!"
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And I go "Would a schedule make you happy, Cynthia? Four times a year? I have more vacation time but I'm telling you that that might go out the window if we have a foster kid"
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and she went "Twice a year is fine! Twice a year is wonderful!" and inside Sergio and I are looking at each other because we see her three times a year already and she can't count.
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And she misinterprets and starts going "It's no one's fault! It's nobody's fault! It's my fault. It's my fault, but you should still come visit your father because he won't say that he wants you here."
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And i cut her off and went "Well, I'm very direct, Cynthia, and if you had told me that Sergio's dad was going to have surgery and wanted a meal with us before now, I would have made time." and she goes "I"m direct too! I'm always direct!"
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Meanwhile my mom refuses to roll down the window to even talk to Cynthia and keeps muttering to drive away.
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And I'm laughing in m yhead and smiling to calm my frantic mother in law down who is going on and on about how she was "cheated out of time with Frankie but it's not our fault, don't feel like you have to spend two hours driving home feeling bad about it" "Oh, don't worry, Cynthia, I won't."
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And I go "Okay, let's all calm down, no one's upset or panicking." And my mother in law goes "I'm having a panic attack." and I go "Are you really?" "PROBABLY."
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Sergio is covering his face. I put my hand on his thigh, and look Cynthia very seriously in the face and go "When would you like us back here."
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"January!" "Okay. When it gets closer to January, call me and I will clear time with our jobs. Do you want us for Christmas?" "I TRIED TO GET CHRISTMAS BACK IN JULY AND YOU WOULDN'T ANSWER SO WE ARE WORKING CHRISTMAS EVE" "Okay. We will see you in January."
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Thirty fucking minutes. We get out of the driveway.
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Mom is like "holy fucking shit I'm so sorry Allison, I feel so bad for you." and I go "I don't. I don't give a shit what she thinks anymore." And I check in on Sergio and we both calm him down and tell him his mother was 1. way out of line and 2. laid the mommy guilt on thick enough to rival some of the best Jewish moms in my family
spooky queer
i think what cynthia actually needs is lots of therapy >.>
spooky queer
and ppl have cut off contact with family for less wild behavior
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OH
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BONUS
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so
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we warned them
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"please do not overfeed Frankie. She does not know her limits and will eat until she pukes"
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guess who picked up a very round kitty
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I made sure she pooped this time before we left. We have a litter box in the car and she's usually pretty good about letting us know if we need to stop
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We get in. We say this insane goodbye to Cynthia
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Half an hour later and poor Frankie, who never gets car sick, is vomiting up all the shit she ate over the weekend
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So we pull over, make sure she's all right, bag up the cat bed she vomited in and I hold her in a towel on my lap and pet her until she falls asleep
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and Mom goes like
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"if you wanted to be mean, text your mother in law about how she overfed your cat and now the cat is throwing up all over the car."
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(no more incidents thankfully and the Big Y was nearby so we chucked the bed and bought more bags and got her some fluids
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*)
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spooky queer : god you think
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mom is like "why are you so calm" and I'm like "therapy is amazing." and we talked a lot about family trauma and Sergio had some revelations of why he shuts down and how it's cruel to mass-text neurotypical kids and expect them to retain one tiny sliver of information and never get confirmation, let alone someone on the spectrum
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*and then get mad at them about it
spooky queer
it sure is
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maybe if cynthia touched grass once in a while she would realize how little service is out there in the vermont woods
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I EVEN TOLD HER THI.
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*THIS
spooky queer
therapy is amazing though you are doing great xD
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I told her I didn't get service until we were in her driveway and she changed gears and was like "I told you on Friday."
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fff yea ok mil
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hahah thanks
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also I'm so sorry but but he was like "fuck Vermont" and died on Monday made me audibly laugh
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ffff no it's okay
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we can laugh and cry about it at the same time
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pippin knew all this was coming and said “nah let frankie handle it”
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absolutely
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MiL wasn't going to take him anyway because she doesn't know how to deal with dogs
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or cats >.>
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heyo
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amazing that I'm persona non grata in most respects except when she's sick or upset and then I'm suddenly the Favorite Person
Ptriciadactyl
Cynthia needs some therapy
Hyatt
pip knew frankie would've been puking on him
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also i just thought of how
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frankie associates you with feeling bad
spooky queer
once you start setting boundaries with boomer parents they lose their minds because they don't understand it
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and i feel like that's part of what's happening here
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or boomer parents-in-law in this case
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"what do you mean you're not catering to my every need and whim"
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Oh absolutely
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I knew this was a boundary thing
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Sergio in the car going like "I'm sorry, I'm sorry" and I go "I'm not. Your mom has anxiety, same as me, but the important thing is to not drown yourself trying to help her out"
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and it was nice to see my mom taking that into consideration because it made her back off on the way she treats my brother too
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he was a little worried she was gonna start the rumor mill up and call all his aunts to tell them the terrible way she had been treated
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and i went
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"Let her. I'm cool with being the evil daughter in law, give Jenna a break for a bit."
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plus anyone who knows Cynthia will know there are also missing reasons behind what she's talking about
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\o/
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amazing that a person who can talk this much can leave out such crucial information
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"missing reasons" is a thing my mom does a lot
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i just hear about cynthia in general and go "ah yes" lmfao
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hahaha
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yeah
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"my kid isn't talking to me! I do this, this and this for them." "okay but what happened" "I don't know, I just IMPLIED that their father was going to die from routine surgery and won't eat without them when he's diabetic WHICH IS TRUE why won't my children speak to me"
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Misty vibes
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My mom is shocked that I'm not more upset. I used to take a lot of this shit so personally. Therapy is amazing.
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(LOL)
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boundaries
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Jay
SO glad that therapy has helped you so much, b/c holy shit that was beyond the pale
argent
Haha god
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Arriving at the point where you can freely confront your mother in law when necessary
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It feels so good
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Oops massive text from Cynthia
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“Hi, rereading texts I see that Allison you said 2 times that you were leaving Sunday. This was my mistake. My unreasonable meltdown was due to the fact that I thought I had more time with you and papa would have had time too.
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I love you guys and miss you guys and winter is coming and I didn’t know when I would see you again and I felt like my heart was being ripped out, I couldn’t understand how you guys seemed so calm about leaving.
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The reality is you don’t feel like we do because you are young and building your lives and know we will get together again and I just panic because I don’t know when.
Lady Stardust
oh no
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Also we try to always seem calm, cool, nonchalant about time with you guys because we don’t want to put the unfair pressure our parents put on us all the time, but then too much time goes by and we miss you and probably unreasonably jealous that other people get to spend time with our kids,
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Tonio has Connecticut people, who we care about and you we care about and are happy are so welcoming and loving of our kids, but miss you and never know when we will get to see you. Know when we will see you will help me. Then papa and I will have something to look forward to. We love where we live and we love each other but we need you guys too.”
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I don’t know how to even unpack that.
Lady Stardust
that sounds like a her problem honestly
pharadyne
especially odd when combined with the many times she's cancelled scheduled visits. (which makes it seem like she wants you to put forth the effort to go to them, but not herself put forth the effort to go to where you are)
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It totally does. I need to hug Sergio when he gets home, this is BS
chris 🧸
what. the FUCK. Cynthia?????????
Ptriciadactyl
felt like my heart was being ripped out
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yeah that is. a lot
Jay
holy shit that woman, way to make everything all about her all the time
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poor Sergio, growing up neurotypical and dealing with that shit would suck, thrown in having to navigate it with autism :-(
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"oh shit i was wrong, how can i save face while still making myself the victim??"
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And I took out parts about boundaries and medication because those are both triggers for her according to Sergio
Lady Stardust
You continue to be a paragon of tact and kindness
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this is good.
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Cynthia: Thank you
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Cynthia: The only thing I would change, (on my side) is that my hyper anxiety is not more than likely exhaustion from Nona and Susan caretaking I don’t sleep well at night when she is here I am constantly scared she will fall or choke or die and it will never get better only worse
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,it is also very draining when I only talk to Susan who either hates me or loves me and won’t remember and Nona who either hates me or loves me and won’t remember.
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Honestly I can understand you guys being exhausted from the extra work, learning and experiences you are having to complete to enable you to foster, it actually is the opposite for us, it is calming thinking about our kids working towards something they really want. 💓
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Cynthia: We have long conversations with Sergio but we don’t have to, I honestly just try to fill in the silence of the two men who say nothing. We can do ten minute calls every Sunday night that works for you. I love to hear your voice
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Me: Yep, that’s also a couple of very good reason to be anxious. Just know that we love you and we want you to be a part of our lives
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Me: What time is good for you for us to call on Wednesday ? We can call any point after 6pm
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Cynthia: Thank you very much, I know these truths. Just was very excited 2 months at a time I see no one except the empty Airbnb and papa who is just too tired. That is not up to you to fix, I love you both thank you
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Me: love you too.
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Sergio: Love you all!
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Then I high fived him and told him “good boundaries” and he did the same and told me “good negotiating”
Jay
you guys are so damn cute and good to each other :-)
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We are learning in couples therapy to give each other compliments more often
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:3
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boundaries are a trigger for her??
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yess
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Mentioning boundaries made her flip out because the last time my sister-in-law tried it, she got it into her head that she was trying to ban her son from seeing her
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BethampHATamine
My otherwise good-at-navigating-her-mental-health friend also gets triggered by boundary discussions, because she has another friend who would use 'I'm just setting a boundary!' as an excuse for shutting down any time my friend tried to stand up for herself.
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what the fuck
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