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[documentary] You know when some historical documentary says: We're going to tell you the TRUE story of XX I can no longer trust it
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Especially for ex celtic history where writing if exists is biased or scarce but even then
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like if they wanted to tell the hidden story
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or the mythical story or whatever fine
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but true?
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also badass music is a huge turnoff too
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I'm not here for an action movies
Pen Again
whatre u watching?
papermint tiger
i can even get behind the untold story
papermint tiger
but yeah true is... not a good thing to claim
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Celts
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yeah
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untold is fine
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I watched like ten secs until they said REAL HISTORY
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and I was like nope
tronja307020
Is this like those "documentaries" on mermaids and megalodon that came out a few years ago?
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no it doesn't seem so
tronja307020
Hmmm, weird. >_>
Exacerangutan
yeah fair
Exacerangutan
"true history" is a red flag
Exacerangutan
"historians hate us because we discovered real history with this one weird trick"
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rofl right?
Pen Again
"real history" or "true history" isn't a red flag if juxtaposed against fictional narrative: the real history of the titanic, of Braveheart, of The Favourite, The Great, OFMD etc
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/nods
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I mean it still kind of gets my goat
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like history was wrong here is how it REALLY happened with an overpowered protagonist that saved the world etc
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not that it can't be good XD
Pen Again
I meant like "OFMD is fictional, but here's the real story of Blackbeard, Bonnet, and pirating in the Caribbean" true history
Pen Again
Or "This is what was real and what was fake/elaboration in the Titanic movie" etc
Pen Again
what was real vs what is the myth/story society keeps mis-retelling, kind of thing etc
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ohhhh
Pen Again
less a fuck you to historians and more a "popculture keeps telling it wrong"
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I see
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Because I was thinking of one of the animated titanics and the mouse was like
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THIS IS THE REAL STORY OF THE TITANIC
Pen Again
I'm not familiar with an animated titanic, but that almost sounds like horrible histories, because they have a rat. But I mean more like
The True History Of The Knights Templar With Dan Jon...
or like the videos where historian reviewsMedieval Historian Marc Morris Breaks Down Middle Ag...
Pen Again
In which they attempt to separate the fact from the fictional narrative that has been built up around the topic
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there's like three of them XD
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yeah those are cool
tronja307020
Yeah, the animated Titanic movies were an atrocity, complete with rapping dogs, sentient octopodes, dolphins, undersea civilizations...all based around this horrific tragedy where thousands lost their lives. They were made in...Italy, I think? Or Spain? In the '90's, and you can find a ton of reviews of them on youtube. XD
Pen Again
Not...terribly interested. but good to know XD
tronja307020
Totally fair. XD They're just one of those horrible things that once you've experienced it, it haunts you. lol
coco_rose
I've seen reviews that mention that animated Titanic movie but I have never watched it. It looked precious 
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I remember the rapping dog
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I wish I hadn't
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take it away from me
tronja307020
If you like, I can wash the rapping titanic dog out of your brain by showing you possibly just as offensive conspiracy theories about how the ship really sank, if you like. >_> And they totally fit in with the topic of this plurk.
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XD feel free to link them for those interested XD; but it's not my thing
tronja307020
fair enough. lol
tronja307020
Mostly I'm just shit-talking dumb docus that my brain has seen that might be amusing in the context. XD
Gemini
god I feel this. I'm so tired of documentaries acting like clickbait
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yeah
Exacerangutan
tronja307020
: I think my "favorite" was some guy who saw a plasma discharge and decided that ancient human saw lightning bolts shot between various celestial bodies and that's the only way so many disparate groups of people could have come up with ideas like... //checks notes// ...five-pointed stars.
Exacerangutan
I am forever amused by people who just cannot accept the possibility that a human being could just
Exacerangutan
have an idea
Exacerangutan
or imagine a thing
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hoi
tronja307020
Exacerangutan
: ... 
Gemini
W O W
Exacerangutan
yeah it hits that much harder when it's a thing you studied in grad school...
Cookie Politics
.....5 pointed stars are an incredibly easy shape to make, and most groups of people did mess around with geometry
papermint tiger
That is my least favorite part of alien conspiracies, as it happens
papermint tiger
I believe in aliens and want them to exist
papermint tiger
But it annoys the shit out of me when they're like 'this ancient cool thing that humans built? Couldn't have done it without help!!'
papermint tiger
Or worse, they just say aliens made it
papermint tiger
Like fuck off, way to say our ancestors were stupid
papermint tiger
Just because the ways have been lost doesn't mean there weren't ways of.doing things
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As a documentary watcher, I get your apprehension
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thank you, Mew
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and yeah I hate the disparagement
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I also hate it when the Doctor does this :/
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(Which I guess is technically being an alien but)
CChuuni
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I love that emote.
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same
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tho it can be seen as
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alienating 8D
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/Snort
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omg*
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the puns XD
papermint tiger
at least if it's in Doctor Who you can understand that even if they say on-screen 'this is the truth' it's at best their best guess
papermint tiger
even if they try to recreate it as well as they can it's entertainment at the end of the day
CChuuni
I abuse it constantly and finally the exactly right timing