Jessie
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This is my villain origin story
Jessie
https://images.plurk.com/4WzT7Lz9k4an9itBWf1jTc.jpg
as if the universe sensed my fury, it was immediately followed by this from another student
spooky queer
"students, today is a lesson in reading comprehension"
ღмσмεяvα
students...
vex appeal
Oh dear
☼ ᴠɪʟ
what is the paper about
ᴊᴀᴄᴋᴘᴏᴛ
screams
☼ ᴠɪʟ
gotta tell you my brain ran some of that second email together into "professica"
Jessie
I genuinely don't like when students call me by my first name. I feel like... it's an important thing that they're trying out. you get to college, the cool professors let you use their first names! that's the trope! but I hate it so much
✨ Skele-taur ✨
yeah um "hey jessica" is not... it's not it, my child
Jessie
like thx for thinking I would be down with this, but I have a hard enough time being in a position of authority without these fucking microaggressions
Jessie
☼ ᴠɪʟ : you know, I might be down with "professica" though (LOL) that's kind of badass
ȡ𝓲𝘴ą𝘴𝓽є𝓻
............at least the second one sounds respectful..... just oblivious...............
—aly
"professor jessica" feels extra wild. like someone splitting the difference wrong in both directions.
ᴊᴀᴄᴋᴘᴏᴛ
oh my god, i would never have the gonads to call a professor by their first name even when they said it was fine
ღмσмεяvα
it probably doesn't help that some professors tell them to use first names so they think the same goes for everyone
—aly
the only profs i called by first name were the ones who, like, i legit built a relationship up with. like that one prof who took me to have dinner with her parents.
ᴊᴀᴄᴋᴘᴏᴛ
i still won't call my grad school professors, who arguably care less about it because they want to get you to be more collegial over time with them, by their first names and i haven't been in school with them since 2018 technically since i scampered off to internship lmao
ȡ𝓲𝘴ą𝘴𝓽є𝓻
'professor [first name]' is someone trying. 'hey jessica' has me leaning back from the screen like oh child no
☼ ᴠɪʟ
the thing i feel like this might be built on is a...kind of regional...thing where (YOUNG. BABY) students call their teachers "miss [firstname]" ?? but like
ᴊᴀᴄᴋᴘᴏᴛ
like there's only two grad school professors i call by their first names because they would outright ignore you if you called them dr. (last name) lmao they really wanted to remove that layer
ღмσмεяvα
young baby yes. in preschool.
Jessie
yeah like. it's two weeks in! They're brand new! they needed me to show them how to export a .doc file and upload it to the assignment! there are reasons to explain all this, but I also hate it
☼ ᴠɪʟ
i'd fall over before i just started callign a college professor by their first name without explicit permission, and even then
☼ ᴠɪʟ
i would really struggle
Jessie
oh I also get a lot of "miss" variants
☼ ᴠɪʟ
(I'm trying to think of one now tbh)
—aly
🤮 to the miss variants. you are not their homeroom teacher.
Shan-o-ween
Once I hit grad school the profs where like no grad stundents call us by their first name, you’re all to old for Professor or Mr Ms
Jessie
but that usually gets a stare and a "you're out of high school what are you doing. :|"
ღмσмεяvα
some professors insist on being casual
Shan-o-ween
Or professor Even the ones with PhD’s
☼ ᴠɪʟ
"Hey Jessica" sounds like they're addressing a classmate
Shan-o-ween
Under Grads however lolol
☼ ᴠɪʟ
they don't even have the "well is it ms or mrs or what" conundrum it's heckin professor/doctor
ღмσмεяvα
students also apparently stopped being taught how to write letters
Jessie
I went with "Dr [name]" until after I got my ma and now I'm too tired to not use first names with the professoriate (LOL)
ღмσмεяvα
I'm sure they threw those lessons out with the cursive
Shan-o-ween
The professors I worked for told them it was Ms. last name when I was running class
Jessie
we are all in the upper echelon of nerds. the general consensus in my academic community is that when you get the PhD everyone has to call you Dr for the first year and then you're an asshole if you force it beyond that
ɴᴇᴄʀᴏғᴀɴᴄʏ 🔮
I’m continuing to boggle at “and also what is the paper about”
ɴᴇᴄʀᴏғᴀɴᴄʏ 🔮
Read instructions and apply critical thinking, kids, even if you should not have to because this is not a critical thinking situation!’
ɴᴇᴄʀᴏғᴀɴᴄʏ 🔮
THE INSTRUCTIONS HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO YOU PLAINLY
𝔂𝓾𝓶𝓲
.... wow that's a mood
☼ ᴠɪʟ
new schedule, first paper is a 5 paragraph summary of the syllabus
ɴᴇᴄʀᴏғᴀɴᴄʏ 🔮
^^^^^
ɴᴇᴄʀᴏғᴀɴᴄʏ 🔮
I’ve been in classes that have done this, had us do short essay questions on how to turn in work, where to find various info etc. Naturally, people still did not read, but those professors were tired...
Jessie
lmao I've seen that given as unironic advice and I impolite laugh every time
Jessie
it's always someone in their sixties being Fucking Done
Jessie
I'm just like. I don't understand how advancements in tech are creating a generation that understands tech less than the one before
Jessie
I never had to explain "this is how to attach a file" before the pandemic
Jessie
and now I just baked it into my "this is what you do for the first paper" speech because they know Google docs but just send share links
ɴᴇᴄʀᴏғᴀɴᴄʏ 🔮
IT REALLY DO BE LIKE THAT THOUGH
ɴᴇᴄʀᴏғᴀɴᴄʏ 🔮
As someone who works with kids, they can do all kinds of stuff on their phone or iPad but can’t write an email in middle school
reineke
it's interesting, because in Austria it is very formal generally, we say 'Ms. Professor Last Name', but in England during my undergrad and postgrad, every professor used only their first name
ɴᴇᴄʀᴏғᴀɴᴄʏ 🔮
And I had so many fellow students when I was back in school the last few years who couldn’t do basic stuff like having to attach files...
Jessie
reineke : I think Europe in general cares more about Mr Ms stuff than America does
Jessie
there was some Twitter discourse about an airline requiring a title but then saying that "dr" does not match up with a feminine gender
✨ Skele-taur ✨
excluding the southern us
☼ ᴠɪʟ
you're right use doctrix-
✨ Skele-taur ✨
if you taught in georgia you'd be Ms. Jessica
Jessie
DOCTRIX vil you are on fire
reineke
I mean, a female doctor would be addressed directly as 'Frau (which is Ms, Mrs, Miss, all of that) Doktor LAST NAME'
☼ ᴠɪʟ
i am feeling fight me today i guess
reineke
but you could just say 'Dr LAST NAME' too
Jessie
✨ Skele-taur ✨ : I lived in Georgia for a year! basically a lifetime ago. I was 100% Ms Jessica the entire time and I thought it was super charming because I was 17 and nobody ever called me miss for anything
reineke
if I addressed my professors directly, I'd say 'Frau Professor' or 'Herr Professor' without last name, but when writing emails it can be a whole minefield as you figure out the right title to address people by, cause Austria is very in love with titles... although it is getting less so, this generation cares a lot less
reineke
we don't have a Ms, Mrs or Miss distinction
reineke
(this is kinda off-topic, but it is always fascinating to me xD)
☼ ᴠɪʟ
i think you could settle on "madam professor"
Jessie
^ that's the thing I was referencing
Jessie
frau professor also sounds cool to me with my dumb American ears
reineke
it is a pretty neat title xD
reineke
but yeah, here the title is seen as separate from the 'Frau' or 'Herr' address, so we would not have the British Airways issue
꧁ßlå¢k Çå†꧂
and now I feel like I should refer to you as Dr Jesse. You worked hard for that Dr
Jessie
NOPE not yet I haven't finished the dissertation yet
Jessie
believe me, when people can call me Dr, everyone will know (LOL)
Jessie
I will be absolutely insufferable
꧁ßlå¢k Çå†꧂
You deverve to be after all that work and effort
Alicia
as a baby undergrad, I never called professors by their first names, even when they told me to. I was barely able to be that casual with the TAs/GAs. At least in my Japanese classes, everyone was [Last Name]-sensei no matter what.
Alicia
and then in my grad program, it was about half the professors that wanted to be called by their first names, and the other half made it clear you would call them doctor
Alicia
which is understandable! I saw people I know go through their PhD programs and I noped out of that right away
ɴᴇᴄʀᴏғᴀɴᴄʏ 🔮
I look forward to Dr. Jessie
☼ ᴠɪʟ
dr. professica
Jessie
oh no but on the other end of it
Jessie
a student who took comp1 with me enrolled in my comp2 class and I fully did not recognize her
Jessie
and when I asked for her name, I saw a whole emotion in her eyes about it
Jessie
and now I am crushed
Jessie
I AM SORRY, KAREN. I REMEMBER YOU NOW BUT IT TOOK BREAKING YOU A LITTLE TO GET ME THERE
ɴᴇᴄʀᴏғᴀɴᴄʏ 🔮
oh no
ᴊᴀᴄᴋᴘᴏᴛ
this went from your villain origin story to her villain origin story
Jessie
(LOL) truth
Jessie
I just want to go back to bed. ;-; othing personal intended!
𝔂𝓾𝓶𝓲
awww no poor Karen
𝔂𝓾𝓶𝓲
LOL omg it's Karen's story now lol
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