pixie lovemail
[MSG] the super hype op kicking in right after you see the colony drop happen from above orbit is actually great comedic timing
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anyways. fucking. love that icelina physically just looks like girl char
pixie lovemail
oh. oh no. oh god
Friendpatine
icelina is, uhhhh...garma's girlfriend, right?
pixie lovemail
yeah
pixie lovemail
garma and george ushiromiya are almost exactly the same picture
pixie lovemail
mirai's skill at parallel parking is unmatched
Cold XC
I would trust her to drive anything
pixie lovemail
something that i really appreciate about og gundam is how tactically varied the fights are
pixie lovemail
they all take place in different conditions, with different objectives, and with different units
pixie lovemail
in the original msg mobile suits aren't just something you can afford to waste, char asking for three zakus was treated as a cumbersome request early on
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so there's also the tanks, ships, fighters, carriers...
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and of course protecting white base
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even with the extremely minimal animation the fights still feel exciting because there's something different happening in them all the time
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
it's great because like, even with minimal animation
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
every bit of animation counts
pixie lovemail
YEAH
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
everyone's working on such limited supplies
pixie lovemail
the thing is, every time bright and amuro argue about tactics, they typically both have a point
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
like. even if you know the gundam's gonna be okay whatever zeon throws at it.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
if zeon manages to damage the gundam
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
that's a problem
pixie lovemail
they're fucked
pixie lovemail
the only person who can repair it is "mia"
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
YEAH
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
so like
pixie lovemail
white base is in no condition to fight at full capacity at the moment, breaking through the enemy lines and rushing to federation territory is one of their best options
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
every shot fired at the gundam is still tense
pixie lovemail
but also, in territory like this that's already been fucked to hell, zeon has a bunch of artillery that WILL tear apart the white base if they find it
pixie lovemail
hence hiding under the baseball dome, waiting for a good moment, rather than a full on rush
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
yeah
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
the balancing in gundam is fucking. genius.
pixie lovemail
like, both bright and amuro are reasonably intelligent and have good solutions, it's just there is never a "best" solution
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
honestly
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
going into MSG only real fandom osmosis knowledge
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
i expected Bright to be like this supreme unassailable badass and amuro to start out as a whiny asshole
Cold XC
it's unfortunate that popularity = execs asking for a lot more robot fight in later series
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
but like
Cold XC
for all that you still get really good shows out of it
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
instead
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
they're both teenagers with anxiety
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
and ptsd
Cold XC
ppl meme about Bright but yeah he's messed up too
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
.... well, i can't call it post-traumatic
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
because that would imply the trauma is not actively ongoing at all times
Cold XC
currently experiencing trauma
pixie lovemail
lmao yeah
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
i also went in expecting zeon to just be like
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
Space Nazis
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
and then i started watching MSG and it's like
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
"okay no they're evil but they also kind of have a point?"
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
they're still unquestionably Bad Guys but they have, like... there's more to them than 'fascism rules y'all'
Gabiluzbad
It's just a really smartly written show
Gabiluzbad
Also yeah Bright and Amuro both have problems
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
the biggest downside to MSG is like
it's SO smartly written i have to have like a couple hours where I don't need my brain for anything else to watch any of it
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
and that's why i'm still back on episode 9
pixie lovemail
yeah i'm really curious about how the series is going to get into the original conflict that started up this war in the first place
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speaking of zeon
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char has a reason for being one of the foundational anime rivals
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like god damn
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
he does
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he's a massive part of why this show is so compelling
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
like we all harp on the original char vs amuro fight so much but for DAMN GOOD REASON
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
both char and amuro scared absolutely shitless of each other
pixie lovemail
because getting able to see things from the other side and watch the whole game unfold invokes the bomb under the table principle
Gabiluzbad
Bright treats everyone around him like machines that will do their mission no matter what and then gets angry when they remind him that they are, in fact, people
pixie lovemail
and trying to figure out what game CHAR is playing compared to everyone else is REALLY fun
Gabiluzbad
Amuro laser focuses on his immediate problems and constantly forgets the big picture
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
i'm going to comment on bright that bright treats everyone else like that
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
because that's how he handles stress.
pixie lovemail
because he- YEAH
Gabiluzbad
yeah
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
boy just depersonalizes so hard he turns into a robot
pixie lovemail
it has never occurred to him that other people can't just shut off their emotions
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
bright noa just dissociates himself back into the fuckin colonies
pixie lovemail
but the thing is when he DOES get agitated he's actually just as passionate as amuro
pixie lovemail
i remember way back in escape from luna ii, when the base was under attack
Gabiluzbad
"I'm calm", say Bright, not being calm at all.
Gabiluzbad
"Why isn't everyone else calm?"
pixie lovemail
bright was deadass the one getting up and smashing at the door
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
and other people retaining their emotions also like. interferes with his own ability to depersonalize.
Quinneapolis
"I'm calm," says Bright, having a panic attack
pixie lovemail
yeah
Gabiluzbad
I also like
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
bright can't fully depersonalize himself and become a robot while other people are reminding him that emotions exist.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
and he hates it.
Quinneapolis
meanwhile Amuro is like "why is this war happening to me"
Quinneapolis
"me personally"
Gabiluzbad
I haven't gotten far enough into the show for Tomino to get WEIRD about girls
Gabiluzbad
And so far my main impression is that compared to a lot of shows, MSG is actually giving the girls pretty good billing
Gabiluzbad
Like Sayla has MULTIPLE SCENES where she pilots the freaking gundam
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
i also think a lot about like.
pixie lovemail
yeah, mirai, sayla, and fraw bow all feel distinct, have distinct, essential roles aboard, the ship, and are allowed to have actual interesting character writing moments
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
okay, just to be clear
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
doom, you're past the Bright Slap, right
pixie lovemail
so like. char absolutely dropped that flare. but WHY
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AHAHAHA
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YEAH THAT EXPLAINS A LOT ABOUT BRIGHT
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his relationship with his parents being Like That is like
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it informs so much about him
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
fraw bow being like, the representative about the civilians is SUCH a good, like.... it feels like they wanted to make her the Standard Girl Role of Supporting And Caring, but putting that role into an active war zone makes for something fucky.
pixie lovemail
yeah it turns her into like
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an actual critical part of keeping white base together
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since she's the one who actually gets the civilians into order and keeps them safe under bright's orders
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ALTHOUGH ANOTHER THING ABOUT BRIGHT THAT I THINK ABOUT A LOT
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
yeah
everyone on white base trusts fraw bow and without that trust all of white base would be doomed
pixie lovemail
during that part where a bunch of the older civilians rebelled and the "soldiers" walked in with their guns
pixie lovemail
bright was actually the first one to realize that they were sending the wrong message, holster his gun, and deescalate
Friendpatine
I do like how fandom has taken the Bright Slap to be this "instant badass manning-up moment" and completely forget that when the Bright Slap happens, it not only doesn't work, it completely backfires.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
i think a lot about the bright slap as like
Gabiluzbad
yeah it was a powerful moment but it wasn't like
Gabiluzbad
the right thing to do
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
fandom has taken it to mean this SUPER BADASS MAN UP MOMENT but also like.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
people also take it to mean amuro was being a whiny brat
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
whereas what amuro is actually saying is
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
"i literally cannot sleep anymore due to the trauma of my own actions"
Gabiluzbad
Amuro, being a "whiny brat": "The safety of the entire ship is on MY FUCKING SHOULDERS and that is a LOT OF STRESS so cut me a FUCKING BREAK"
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
YEAH
Quinneapolis
also like. it's pretty good for someone's father to not hit them
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
also, that.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
it's a good line for memeing. but also.
Friendpatine
there's a reason we autists claim Amuro as one of our own.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
i think mark put it best that the actual meaning of the Bright Slap is that it's how the stress of the situation and the horrors of war are turning both bright and amuro into the worst versions of themselves.
pixie lovemail
EXACTLY to all of this, it's such a great moment
pixie lovemail
another great aspect of gundam is that amuro just has this INTENSE obsession with char
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
amuro who can't deploy without being sure of things being okay, who knows everything is on his shoulders but still refuses to move because of the trauma
and bright, who has power, and uses that power to, well, strike a subordinate, because it's easier than dealing with emotions
pixie lovemail
while char has no fucking clue who amuro is
pixie lovemail
yeah
Gabiluzbad
At my point in the series I don't think they've actually met face to face yet
Gabiluzbad
And I'm like
Gabiluzbad
over half way through
Cold XC
yeah
Cold XC
Ramba didn't even like, report back on the Gundam being piloted by some kid
Quinneapolis
it's wild how little face time amuro and char get
Quinneapolis
I honestly love it
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
i gotta say
Quinneapolis
it makes their relationship so weird
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
having met him from Gundam Build Fighters
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
i am terrified of meeting Ral in MSG
Cold XC
Gunpla Valhalla
Friendpatine
report to the Gouf Troop
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
"haha it's the silly gunpla man with a thing for sei's mom"
[zeon occurs]
Gabiluzbad
Ramba Ral is a cool dude
pixie lovemail
another interesting development is that, like. char obviously highlighted a place for the white base to hide... but he was relying on them to be competent enough to have SOME kind of plan he could exploit to kill garma
pixie lovemail
he couldn't possibly know the specifics
pixie lovemail
he respects them as dangerous opponents now
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and that means he can USE them
pixie lovemail
once again mirai saves EVERYONE'S asses
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
honestly the biggest surprise i had in msg so far
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
is the Guntank's existence
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
like i love the og gundam don't get me wrong
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
but like
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
the guntank tho
Gabiluzbad
Guntank was my fav in Gundam Evolution
pixie lovemail
god. lays down
pixie lovemail
through garma's death feels like a 26-episode season but i'm only 10 episodes in
Cold XC
Guntank Contributes
pixie lovemail
msg does NOT fuck around
Friendpatine
I believe the compilation films trim down the Guntank significantly. Either it gets replaced at some point by a second Guncannon or it just always is a second Guncannon right from the start.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
I get it but I love that chonky boi
化けの花
yessssss
化けの花
and yeah guntank is a BLAST in evo
Gabiluzbad
Aiming is for chumps
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