LiberBEARian
Back from the in-laws. Almost threw hands with my mother in law over abortion and went “that’s my cue to leave”.
LiberBEARian
Other bonus moments:
Boo👻Berry
ooooh boy
LiberBEARian
Getting to hear savior bullshit from my MIL about this foster care program and then when I said “hey I don’t want to think of this as “saving” a kid, that concept has a lot of ugly history and I want to make sure we’re doing this for the right reasons “, I got to hear twenty minutes of “you don’t understand what I’m saying, words are meaningless”
Hyatt
/hugs
LiberBEARian
A VERY WEIRD ALLEGORY ABOUT BLACKFACE WTF. Where Sergio and me were talking to ourselves about Private anxieties about messing a kid up or retraumatizing them and mother in law interjecting with “you guys will always have something that you do that isn’t okay. One day if one of you wears a red sweater, that will be like how blackface was when we were kids”
فك يو
jfc
🐚 Rui 🐙
oh...............
LiberBEARian
And I went “uh what the fuck” and so did Sergio and cue another 20 minutes of over explaining of her going like “well it wasn’t okay now but it was back then!”
And I’m just like “IT WASNT OKAY EVER” and she’s like “well I know that NOW”
LiberBEARian
and I’m just trying not to cover my face and go like “wait no you can’t tell me that wearing a certain color is akin to fucking blackface”
LiberBEARian
And she doesn’t like that I cursed so now we’re both upset
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Bonus round: she and her friend were talking about musicians and the friend was like “I don’t like Adam Levine because he treats his fans terribly” and MIL went “well I like to keep the music and the artist separate”
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And I go “oh I can’t do that.” And she goes “I can.” And I go “so you’re cool with listening to R Kelly?” And she blanched and went “no”
And I went “so it’s a spectrum.” “What?” “You’re okay with behavior up to a point. Shoving girls off stage is okay but what r Kelly did isn’t. What’s the line?”
LiberBEARian
I wasn’t even trying to be combative but it was like midnight and I had listened to eight hours of shit
bluecanary
i think shes either got to stop talking about politics to you or stop trying to get you to agree with her because its fuckin rude
spooky queer
ffffffff
LiberBEARian
Also this morning my father in law wore a hat to the flea market but because he’s so tall we couldn’t see it until some dudes selling guns out of a truck cheered at “Let’s go Brandon” and I was like “for fucks sake.”
Hyatt
can't she just redirect all that energy into spoiling frankie
LiberBEARian
I just was in angry political activist mode and they were like “we can agree to disagree and make our own choices”
And I think i said some things that implied fascist ways of thinking like what’s happening now make it so we CANT make our own choices and she went “well you personally can because you live in mass so I don’t know why you’re getting upset”
LiberBEARian
Like it was a foreign concept that I’d be upset for other people I had never met in states where there are less rights
pluviophile
blech
LiberBEARian
I think I come into town and make things awkward and uncomfortable and if only I didn’t mention politics we’d all get along great but. Sorry. Here to fucking wreck your home life and remind you that Jewish people exist and have loud opinions that disagree with you.
LiberBEARian
She wants to live in a Norman Rockwell painting I swear
Hyatt
did the pregnant 10yo come up?
LiberBEARian
She yelled at father in law over the hat “they won’t let us see the grandkids!!!” And I’m like “well not for that but for the love of god please examine why you might think I might be unhappy enough to keep your kid from you and maybe. Reflect?”
LiberBEARian
Hyatt : I didn’t even get into it because unless it affects us, she can blow it off as fake news
Ptriciadactyl
everything about this sounds frustrating and exhausting
Hyatt
uuuugh
Hyatt
and as horror stories keep piling up, she'll keep dismissing them as fake news? does she also uncritically believe the stories about abortion doctors having quotas and fetuses screaming in pain and clinging to the womb?
LiberBEARian
She watches Fox 24/7
LiberBEARian
She doesn’t see it and if she does she prefers not to think about it. Because thinking critically makes her feel bad and why would she want to feel bad????
LiberBEARian
I think she thinks I like to show up and ruin people’s day like a Debbie downer
bluecanary
i have a new plan and its punching
LiberBEARian
Hahaha I love it
LiberBEARian
We also had weird fucking talks about adoption where I said we were going through DCF and she went “well I know there are Christian adoption agencies. Are there Jewish ones?”
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And I go “you know, I don’t actually know. I mean, maybe where there are lots of Jews like in NYC or major metropolitan areas and a Jewish pregnant person was like “I want my kid raised Jewish” but I don’t actually know. Why?”
LiberBEARian
And that led to a whole weird ugly conversation about why I don’t like “Christian charities” and the ugly baby selling industry and why can’t I just get a baby, babies are the best
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And I’m
Trying to show her the 8-14 year olds we were looking into and she kept interrupting to talk about how Sergio was so cute at 4 months old
LiberBEARian
My Mother in law Is not a subtle woman
Ptriciadactyl
uuuuuuuuuuuugh
spooky queer
allison didn't you know
spooky queer
just get a baby at the farmer's market
spooky queer
they're right next to the vegetables
LiberBEARian
Man I wish
spooky queer
(LOL)
LiberBEARian
I don’t want a baby babies are gross poop machines
spooky queer
they sure are
LiberBEARian
I was like “man I’ll go in for whatever kid DCF thinks our idiot selves are capable of handling” but apparently this was the wrong thing to say
spooky queer
dies of laughter
spooky queer
can we just collectively punt boomers into space today i can't
spooky queer
i'm done
spooky queer
they can hang out with elon baby-making musk
LiberBEARian
Yesssss
LiberBEARian
Except for my mom she can stay
spooky queer
oh well yes
spooky queer
honorary gen x or something
LiberBEARian
Haha
Ptriciadactyl
yeah, my mom is also allowed to stay, but it's time to punt many people into space
Ptriciadactyl
a lot of my dad's side of the family can go
LiberBEARian
Yeah my mom’s family is awful
LiberBEARian
Oh and besmirching Edgar Allen Poe happened
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MIL was going on about removing the artist from the art and went “I love Edgar Allen Poe’s works but if I ever met the man I would probably hate him. He did drugs.”
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(This is also where she was talking about how she doesn’t like Adam Levine not because of his behavior but because he has too many tattoos now and dyed his hair blonde)
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And I went “okay if I had tattoos would you stop liking me” and she stuttered and went “not the same thing, he’s a performing artist. He performs badly so if you pay to see him perform that’s on you”
LiberBEARian
I am kind of fascinated by how her mind works ngl
spooky queer
l m a o
spooky queer
get a tattoo of adam levine and a raven
LiberBEARian
YES
spooky queer
the tattoo artist: um what. allison: you heard me
pharadyne
she strikes me as the kind of person for whom individuals she knows are people and allowed to be complex and loved in their messy complexity, but everyone else in the world is a stereotype of either Good or Bad behavior and shallowly judged accordingly.
LiberBEARian
Yes. Exactly.
spooky queer
yup
pluviophile
very conservative worldview there
bluecanary
i think you should staple her to something
Hyatt
the savior angle she projects onto you really does not go with her also pushing you to get a baby. everyone wants babies. older kids get neglected. you're a "better" savior for wanting to foster older kids
Jay
my FIL is much the same way--"I wouldn't want to live in the world you life in"
Jay
YOU DO, ASSHOLE, YOU JUST REFUSE TO THINK CRITICALLY ABOUT IT BC NONE OF THIS SHIT AFFECTS YOU
Jay
/puffpuffpantpantRAGE
Hyatt
out of sight, out of mind
LiberBEARian
Also they still listen to bill cosby “even though we don’t agree with what he did but his old tracks are in the house and are hilarious”
LiberBEARian
Cool thanks.
“Oh this is cancel culture”
Fuck off
Hyatt
"sorry, I can't laugh at a serial rapist. or listen to him"
LiberBEARian
My mother in law feels she was cancelled because every time she would post shit on Facebook all her nieces and daughters in law would point out why she was wrong.
Jay
I bet they're absolutely fine with 'cancelling' people and businesses that offend their personal beliefs enough
Hyatt
sounds like the conservative definition of cancelling, yeah
Jay
(my FIL bitches about cancel culture but won't drink coke anymore b/c of... something)
Jay
pretty sure it was something that pissed trump off
bluecanary
staple
spooky queer
o u mean consequences
LiberBEARian
Haha
LiberBEARian
She feels we bully her because we post links to snopes articles
pluviophile
lmaoooo
Hyatt
while calling everything she doesn't like "fake news". she is just at war with reality
Jay
yeeeeeah
Jay
totally bullying to point out she's been lied to
Jay
and is passing along those lies uncritically
 HEROphelia 
I’d like to also keep my mom when we punt all the boomers. She got arrested several times for taking part in civil rights protests and almost lost her job and pension because she taught the truth of the Vietnam war in her classroom when our government was still trying to cover it up.
 HEROphelia 
She’s always supported my activism, and I truly believe the reason I have so much compassion is because she taught me from a very early age that freedom and liberty for some is not freedom and liberty at all. That being all right with bad things happening to other people, as long as it didn’t impact you, was turning your back on your humanity.
 HEROphelia 
But almost all others can go.
spooky queer
uh huh
spooky queer
re snopes
 HEROphelia 
Also, something that I’ve found useful lately: “agree to disagree is for things like pizza toppings, not basic human rights. You do understand the difference, don’t you?”
spooky queer
^ i love that too
Jay
yeeeeah
 HEROphelia 
The key is to say it very calmly and without actively strangling them. Like you really are concerned that they just don’t understand.
spooky queer
XD
LiberBEARian
Oh that’s a good line
 HEROphelia 
Use it in good health
LUCK PERVERT
You don’t understand, Allison. These things are in the house
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